Carbonated Drinks: Learn the Truth

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

I don't think they should be banned or taxed, I just think we should be smart enough to understand the difference between something that holds absolutely no nutrional value, such as Soda, and make a concious decision to not consume it.

But that's just me, to each his own.

~Keeper

But soda does have nutritional value.

It is roughly 98% water (in most blends).

If you were in a desert with nothing to drink, and no cacti around to cut open and drink from; would you drink a soda?

You should. It is really 98% water I am not lying lol. That is the information I was told by Pepsi Co.'s representatives.

Call 1-800-433-2652 and see if they tell you the same #. I am curious to see if they keep the same %.

Also ask them questions about information in the OP and see what their replies are. Oh and anyone who decides to call them, share whatever you find out with us here please. Thanks!

Is there anything that is safe to eat or drink nowadays?

Everything in moderation,that's what i say!

reply to post by muzzleflash


They told me 75%.

I asked them about the reported health issues in regards to soda and here's the answer I received after being transfered to a "specialist".

It was actually an automated message:

" Thank you for calling, we stand behind our products and the FDA has deemed all our products safe for consumption, any inquiries about composition or nutritional information should be forwarded to the FDA.."

Then it hung up..

~Keeper

So what effect does the use of high fructose corn syrup instead of real sugar (due to the subsidizing of corn and the sugar tax) have on the human body?

I think theres some truth ot the dangers of schlepping large quantities of any beverage that is manufactured by some faceless nameless huge corporation.
Remember it was called "Industrial waste" and deemed toxic till they decided to put flouride in our water....?
Lets face it, things like Aspartame are very dangerous chemicals and when the most popular sodas can contain this and other trace amounts of wierd stuff, well, perhaps it should just be a law that you cant put dangerous chemicals in food....any food.....

Originally posted by Jonko
I don't know if this is the truth (I've heard it's bad for you though). That's why I've posted it on ATS (A lot of smart people).

Thought you guys would figure it out.

Then way to go intentionally giving a misleading thread title.

I thought we were supposed to copy the headline. Thought I've read that somewhere sometime.

Next they are going to say energy drinks are bad for you...oh wait they already say that. LOL

People crack me up.

Sigh. If people get the impression that everything is poison and everything causes cancer, most likely thats because in our society the majority of the crap we are surrounded with IS. Its mostly all overprocessed, refined, stuffed with chemicals, and nutrient free. Yes, when you go to any fast food restaurant, EXPECT to feel like everything there is bad for you. IT IS.

People who just use that as an excuse, however, to eat whatever they want, are just not being realistic. Foods grown traditionally, and through sustainable process, are much more full of nutrients, and less likely to cause cancer. Every thing you put in your body is either a medicine or a poison. If you are catering to convenience, and using pre packaged foods and drinks as your main source, dont try to pass it off as your only choice.

Yes, in our country, due to predatory food corporations and lobbying and kickbacks to the FDA, it is less convenient and more expensive to procure food that fits into the "medicine" category, but dont use that as an excuse to say that people trying to eat healthy are wasting their time.

There are pages and pages of info on the net about how bad soda's are for you. And there are many people who drink nothing but soda, all day. As to the poster above who went on about how healthy he is, and saying that he uses soda to manage his hypoglycemia....stop fooling yourself. If you have hypoglycemia you are NOT healthy. You have something going on that causes your body to regulate sugar and insulin improperly, most likely a dietary or environmental issue. Of course, if you see a western doctor they will just tell you its normal and try to manage it, just as they try to "manage" diabetics. Sadly, most diabetics never get the info that it is NOT normal, and that with agressive lifestyle changes (ie, eating the way the human body is SUPPOSED to eat) you can completely reverse it if caught early. This is why we have higher mortality and amputations in the US than from any other country.

I know the truth. I never believed for one minute that this stuff was healthy. Whats the big deal? Nothing like a tall glass of Cold Fire to take the edge off.
I hate diet cold fire though. that stuffs for the birds

reply to ShadowAngel85

That's interesting , I wonder why these chemicals aren't used as often in your part of the world .
This is a list I found of drinks in the US
www.ewg.org...
And Australia seems to be similar
news.ninemsn.com.au...
Dr peppers got it too written on the side of the can , I was lucky enough to get a can from a specialty store since they don't sell it in the supermarkets anymore (love that stuff )
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thank you so much for removing my short quote mods
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Everything is poisonous if you consume too much of it. Eat and drink with moderation and you'll be fine.

Blender, thats true and untrue. Many things can be poisonous in high amounts, however, some things are also poisonous in moderation. Now you see the high fructose corn syrup commercials where they say that high fructose corn syrup (leading cause of type 2 diabetes) is perfectly healthy in moderation. However, they fail to tell you what moderation is, and few realize that there is high fructose corn in a massive amount of beverages, foods, and condiments, so few americans really have any idea how much they are getting. Its in ketchup, its in cereals, its in sodas and juices, its in sauces, its incredibly pervasive, so that being the case, its quite a restrictive diet, FAR from the Standard American Diet (SAD), that keeps it in moderation.

I quit drinking pop on a regular basis about 6 months ago. I have lost around 40 lbs. I only quit cause I just didn't have a taste for it anymore.I was not trying to loose weight, it was just a nice side effect of quitting drinking pop all the time. I also drink a lot of water since quiting pop.

I just had my first child 3 weeks and 1 day ago, the last visit before delivery the doctor told us that it was better to drink coffe then it was for drinking pop. That was just the icing on the cake for me.

I do though on occasion have a pop, but the taste just doesn't sit well with me anymore.

I belive everything they say about pop in the OP. S & F thanks.

Another comment about the previous poster who said something along the lines of eating good food vs being healthy. One thing most americans dont realize is that their taste buds are desensatized by the overconsumption of sugar and salt.

One story that illustrates the point, a friend of mine spent 6 months in tanzinia africa. When he just got there, all his friends were telling him about this wonderful restaurant. When he went to eat there, he was disappointed to find the food bland and tasteless. After remarking upon this fact, his friends all said "oh! you are american. All you eat there is sugar and salt. After a few weeks here your taste will recover, and then you'll be able to find the flavor". He went back two weeks later, and found the food wonderful...

As americans, many rarely ever try to moderate or deprive themselves of overindulgence, so we rarely see the reality of our desensitization. I try different fasts from time to time, and some time ago i fasted from carbs for a few weeks. It was amazing, after just 2 weeks without carbs, how much i could suddenly taste flavors and nuances i had never noticed before. Even water has a sweet flavor, when you are not constantly overstimulating yourself with sugar and HFCS. Vegetables all tasted much better. Sadly, it is the extreme amounts of salt and sugar in the standard american diet that KEEPS us from truly appreciating the real flavor of our foods.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
This is not what I know to be the truth.

In fact, I would go so far as to call this food-nazi propaganda.

Just want to pass laws and government regulations to FORCE me to drink or eat the way you tell me to?

What if I wanna drink some window cleaners or Drano? You gonna ban those too?

I hate government interference in my life.

I don't care if soda drinkers die. I don't care.

I do care when the Govt think's it's my mommy. It pisses me off.

I am an autonomous sovereign human being. I am an adult. I can make my own choice if I want a soda or not.

This is for sure pro-government regulation propaganda. IE : It's doctored to fit an agenda. The facts are twisted and TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

Within 10minutes I drink a soda? Me personally, it takes me over 4 hours to consume 1 soda typically...

How can 10 teaspoons of sugar hit me in 10minutes when I cannot even drink that fast??

See, it's out of context. I am sure I can find more wrong with it if I did the necessary research to debate it.

But why bother? I already know it's bunk designed to make me accept government regulations over what kind of SODA I DRINK? Gotta be freaking kidding me.

It's a soda not Drano come on people. But Drano is legal?

I can think of one reason why it's good for the government to play "mommy" every once in a while: Not every bad decision you make effects only you.

Some people might not have health insurance. They consume something that's bad for them and then the rest of the country has to cover the bill. It's probably one of the reasons things like soda/cigarettes are taxed so much.


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That's funny. You do know that alcohol IS toxic?

reply to post by bigbomb456


I'm not really up on the risks/benefits of high fructose corn syrup. I don't see why, in principle, that it should be any worse for you than sugar from beets.

You lose calcium by drinking soda. It destroys your teeth and bones.

The carbonation in all soft drinks causes calcium loss in the bones through a three-stage process:

1. The carbonation irritates the stomach.
2. The stomach "cures" the irritation the only way it knows how. It adds the only antacid at its disposal: calcium. It gets this from the blood.
3. The blood, now low on calcium, replenishes its supply from the bones. If it did not do this, muscular and brain function would be severely impaired.

Link

Chronology of Health, just a few snipets as to sugar:

1880 In Denmark citizens consume 29 pounds of sugar each annually.
Recorded death rate from diabetes in Denmark is 1.8 per 100,000.
Sweden consumption of refined sugar 12 pounds per person annually.

1910 1910 Japan acquires a source of cheap and abundant sugar on Formosa. Incidence of tuberculosis (TB) rises dramatically in Japan.

1911 Denmark sugar consumption 82 pounds per person annually.
Death rate for diabetes in Denmark is 8 per 100,000.

1912 Dr. Robert Boesler, New Jersey dentist, notes that "modem manufacturing of
w a r has brought about entirely new diseases. Sugar has caused a vast
degeneration of the people .

1924 1924 Dr. Seale Harris of the University of Alabama discovers that sugar can cause hyperinsulinism and recommends people cut sugar consumption. The medical
establishment comes down on Harris and his work is suppressed. Harris would
be awarded a medal by the AM. 25 years later as pharmaceuticals to
control low blood sugar are developed and put into production. The basic
contribution of refined sugar to the problem remains suppressed.

1934 Denmark sugar consumption is 113 pounds per person annually.
1934 Death rate for diabetes in Denmark is 19 per 100,000.

1939 Dr.Weston Price, a research dentist, publishes Nutrition and Physical Degeneration: A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets and Their Effects, which proved that refined foods and sugar causes physical degeneration and disease as opposed to natural unrefined foods.

1962 Soft drinks are consumed at 16 gallons per person per year.

1971 Dr. H.J. Roberts publishes results of a comprehensive national study of traffic accidents. Roberts concludes thata "significant source" of many unexplainable accidents is that "millions of American drivers are subject to pathological drowsiness and hypoglycemia due to functional hyperinsulinism"

1972 Soft drink consumption 30 gallons per year per person.

1988 Discovered that ingestion of 100mg (.004 ounce) of sugar reduces the immune functions in the body by 50% within one hour . Other studies confirm that excessive sugar consumption may increase the incidence of infections and reduce the body's ability to defend against disease. Ref: Eat for Health, William Manahan, M.D, Tiburon Press, 1988; Robert Mendelsohn, M.D, "The Risks of Immunizations", 1988, Peoples Doctor Newsletter, Inc.

www.relfe.com...

Sugar related disorders:
www.innvista.com...

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1977 Cancer Blackout 1977. Otto Warburg, Nobel Laureate in Medicine: "Cancer ... there is no disease whose prime cause is better known...in the meantime millions of men must die unnecessarily."

The real conspiracy here is why everyone is saying soda instead of pop .

I actually remember discussing this in a nutrition class I took and thought the articles conclusion seemed reasonable. I'm all for consuming what you want I just think it's a good idea to know what it's doing. Just about time for another cigarette to go with this beer.