Women and the 'SHTF' Scenario

A phrase I've heard elsewhere to describe this kind of situation is:

"The strong will control the weak, and the clever will control the strong"

When no other structure is in place to balance things out, I think that is pretty much what will happen.

So, I think that strong/clever women will do OK, but the dumb/weak ones are gonna be in as bad a position as the dumb/weak men.

This isn't a hard rule I guess, a clever person can't always talk their way out of trouble when a big guy is pointing a gun at them, but I think it's a fair rough rule to follow.

[edit on 18/7/2010 by harpsounds]

reply to post by Dark Ghost


State of mind is important and I am not disputing that the fantasies of society will collapse and it will be survival of the fittest. Their will be no difference between men or woman in a societal perspective.

Take into account an obese man 5'9 260 lbs, he will fall victim to anyone who can out last him in all respects, maybe even a child. A woman whom is in much better condition physically will fair better. If she is healthy, than it means that it is because, mentally, she has set her sights on being this since before the s hit the fan. Society is not going to become entirely immoral overnight, there will not be a Mad Max kind of deal all of a sudden. Their will be groups of people working together and this is what we have to take into account.

I recommend reading Fer Fals blog. He has been thru SHTF already down in Argentina. It has a ton of great information about SHTF scenario. The blog is sort of confusing to navigate, but just use the links to the left on all his pages, for an amazing account of SHTF.

SHTF might be a little different than most people speculate according to Fer Fal.

There is an old Thread on this here, but The link didn’t work for me… www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is a link to his blog…ferfal.blogspot.com...

Heres a better place to start ferfal.blogspot.com...

reply to post by souls


Yes, I see where you are coming from and agree somewhat. Although I still do believe that in a SHTF scenario, it is wiser to expect the worst in human nature.

[edit on 18/7/2010 by Dark Ghost]

My mother always said women are superior to men in every way.
We never focus on our privates, ever. We are more tolerant to pain
due to menstrating every month. Women can be incredibly fox like in thinking, just ask my plotting mother in law. She plots elaborate scemes to get what she wants. I am five feet ten and I never have felt afraid of men. Most men are easy going and just was to eat and watch sports. If SHTF most men will probably go fishing and hunting. Women who have had children are more violent than any man when it comes to their family.
Women will shoot first and ask questions later, or never. I have killed
lots of snakes around my house and it was to protect my children, my husband always used a shot gun, I would use what ever was handy.
So if you want to think women are weak or stupid I would really stop and re-evaluate that train of thought. How you treat others comes back to you a thousand times over.

Originally posted by meteoritics
I recommend reading Fer Fals blog. He has been thru SHTF already down in Argentina. It has a ton of great information about SHTF scenario. The blog is sort of confusing to navigate, but just use the links to the left on all his pages, for an amazing account of SHTF.

SHTF might be a little different than most people speculate according to Fer Fal.

There is an old Thread on this here, but The link didn’t work for me… www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is a link to his blog…ferfal.blogspot.com...

Yeah, I visited one of the so-called failed states in Africa and what I've noticed is women had to be protected all the time, especially if they're tall Caucasian blondes.

reply to post by aboveandbeyond


Well if history shows us anything, men are usually targeted by bandits and rivals for being a threat, being the protector of some secret stash, being killed in conflict, being killed in hard labor, killing themselves, or targeted by Governments.

Women would typically be raped and pillaged by the bandits, but other than that I've never really read about women being targeted in major wars or social disintegration for any other reason than.. well.. sex and slavery.

If that's what you were inquiring about anyways.

Originally posted by aboveandbeyond
Hi,

I'm not sure if it's been posted on ATS somewhere before, but I'll ask it anyway: do you think females will be targeted even more than men when(if) the worst happens? Do you think dystopian scenarios where women become a commodity hold water?

Mods, if this topic's been covered, my apologies.

You can answer here or u2u me if you like.

Cheers.

Without a doubt, femimism will be dead at that moment. Females by necessity will revert back to what they once were mostly--and still are to a very large, unrcognized degree--the backbone of the family.

The are THE cornerstone of the family by their birthright in that they make the family from day one of conception until the young one is able to leave on its own.

Unfortunately, females have failed to look outward distant enough to recognize the power that they hold. The power of the female is demonstrated no more greatly than in those cultures and societies that repress them.

I am a woman who is in good shape and has experience in wrestling and boxing. From personal experience I know I can defend myself better than many men. That being said, if there was some extreme shtf situation where a group of sex crazed men were walking around with guns I would start crossdressing.

It depends on the woman. Here a few years back we had a power failure that lasted 2 days. I went over to a friend's house to help get a generator running. The real story was going on across the street. The first house the man got so feed up he just left on foot. The woman there was going crazy because there was not phone or computer or cell service (failed after 18 hours- back up power failed?). She was crying like a kid. You could hear her across the street. She throw the can opener out in the street. Now at the next house it was a different story. That woman had a fire in the back yard cooking like they did a hundred years ago. She was opening can food with a big knife. She was camping out in the back yard. It was so funny to see these two woman so far apart.
So it would be harder on women just because they are women and it would mostly be the men that were making it harder just because they are men. Do not count them out. I know a few women that would do better than a lot of men I know. So it all depends on the woman in question.

Good question OP.

For some reason I always catch myself thinking about "where I can hide."