Women and the 'SHTF' Scenario

Hi,

I'm not sure if it's been posted on ATS somewhere before, but I'll ask it anyway: do you think females will be targeted even more than men when(if) the worst happens? Do you think dystopian scenarios where women become a commodity hold water?

Mods, if this topic's been covered, my apologies.

You can answer here or u2u me if you like.

Cheers.

for like sex? well in a potential shtf scenario all bets are off, i would hope people would have better stuff in mind then getting their rocks off. however i do understand for some men it is hard to control. never underestimate the power of a b*ner

well if your worried about any shtf scenarios involveing females u care about get that anti rape condom and weapons training should atleast cut down on the badness

Originally posted by The Endtime Warrior
for like sex? well in a potential shtf scenario all bets are off, i would hope people would have better stuff in mind then getting their rocks off. however i do understand for some men it is hard to control. never underestimate the power of a b*ner

Yes, sex is one of options, but (unfortunately) I doubt it'll be the only one. Thanks for answering.

reply to post by aboveandbeyond


well than I guess I'm not prepared to answer such a question. I must say your OP is a little vague. What kind of scenarios are you talking about then? Interested in hearing your opinions.

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If you have looked into a little history.. first the young men who are able bodied are targeted. But they have it much better off because many are quickly killed. Some call that being lucky... a relatively quick death. However, when they get to the women it's a much slower and drawn out process... So for the women, no they won't be initially targeted but it will be a lot worse.

Women will be more vulnerable than men given the simple fact that men are on average physically stronger and more violent than women. If a SHTF scenario were to occur, all the false delusions promoted by groups such as the Feminist Movement will harshly be swept away by the realities that accompany such a tragic situation.

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I can see where your coming from, one of my considerations about the SHTF moment goes along the lines of 'OMG all the women in my family live miles apart, how can I protect them all?!'.

Its not exactly a nice thought, I'm sure a lot of women would not like the idea that they need protecting, but I guess it's ingrained in men that it must be done when the time comes.

Also it sounds a bit macho lol I ain't no rambo so what use would I be haha

Women as property is an entirely possible situation, as the historical record shows us.

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Women will be more vulnerable than men given the simple fact that men are on average physically stronger and more violent than women. If a SHTF scenario were to occur, all the false delusions promoted by groups such as the Feminist Movement will harshly be swept away by the realities that accompany such a tragic situation.

[edit on 18/7/2010 by Dark Ghost]

Well said, to be honest that's what I'm afraid of. I know all the lofty feminist notions are only valid as long as there's some sort of stability. When that's gone, such ideas go 'poof' and never come back..

Who's to say that there wouldn't be more women around than men? Think "A boy and his dog" hell of a way to go out I guess.

Women can be just as strong as any man, and stronger. If this scenario were to take place, I my self have done some serious thinking because I have sisters. I have always tried to teach my youngest sisters how to defend themselves, how to throw a punch, vulnerable points and joints, basic stuff. The older sisters, they are past my age so it is harder to get them to this, but I do try to teach them other things, things outside of the programming.

It really depends on how a woman thinks. Humans are primal and in this primal situation, most will fall victims to abuse and rape. The smart, organized, and crafty ones will find a way to use those skills to survive. Some will probably be protected, some will seek protection by any means necessary, and others will have a lot to offer in knowledge, so their protection is by default.

Those that are strong, that are in fighting shape and mind, will most definitely not submit, and will encounter dangerous days and nights, just like any man in a primal world.

I think it is important for man and woman to be in fighting shape so when the time comes, those "carne asada fries" don't mean your demise.

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History has shown consistently that in these types of situations men are usually killed and women are usually taken as slaves.

I encourage people to contemplate the following words by Aristotle:

Man, when perfected, is the best of animals, but when separated from law and justice, he is the worst of all.

Think Lord of the Flies, but MUCH worse for everybody involved.

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i think the really pretty ones who men think i'd do her at the moment, would probably literally do her if there is no law, think about neanderthal era , club and take, or even the slave trade buy and use, when shtf the strong/well armed will prevail and take what they want, in britain only criminals have guns, the rest of us are screwed!!, anyone know where to buy cyanide tablets......

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Of course, women who are fit, know self-defence and are not afraid to defend themselves no matter the cost will have a good chance of survival. Ultimately those that are prepared have a better chance of making it than those who are not.

I am talking about when faced with the bare essentials that nature provides us, the average man has a physical advantage over the average woman when it comes to matters of survival and perseverance.

[edit on 18/7/2010 by Dark Ghost]

Maybe not women per se will be targeted but anyone who appears vulnerable will probably have a difficult time. There is safety in numbers and with firearms.
The founding fathers created the 2nd amendment for just such a reason - so that no man or woman can be forced to act against themselves.
In a SHTF scenario it will be best to simply not be seen if possible, if you are you must look as though it would be a mistake to try to take advantage you.
Every evil impulse in the heart of man will be seen somewhere. Until these people meet their end the world will know no peace.

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I don't think that is true. I have seen some average women, whom can take on the average man head on. A woman will always be a prey for reproduction, no matter what. It depends on the state of mind of the woman. If she believes herself to be some frail, princess that has no way of being stronger than a man, this is what she will be. If she believes herself to be a strong, independent, and intelligent woman, this is what she will be. The same applies to any man. There is no difference really because a strong man is strong because he believes himself to be strong. The same applies to a weak man. The difference the state of mind makes shows in the way they live their life and when the s hits the fan.

Originally posted by aboveandbeyond
Hi,

I'm not sure if it's been posted on ATS somewhere before, but I'll ask it anyway: do you think females will be targeted even more than men when(if) the worst happens? Do you think dystopian scenarios where women become a commodity hold water?

Mods, if this topic's been covered, my apologies.

You can answer here or u2u me if you like.

Cheers.

i think you're going to see women who're told 'if you wanna buy this,then you gonna have to shake your a** for me' and that's of course a sanitized version but you get my point,i think all the hidden layers getting out there and it's quite a mess,i doubt there's a movie which depicts the plight of women if the shtf happens.i also think many women are going to be forced to abandon pants,to make them more vulnerable and easier to deal with if they attempt to escape for instance.so yeah,that's a nightmare scenario where feminism goes down the drain.you can think women are going to fight back but look at history and you see how it turned out for them,temporary insignificant victories at best.sad,but true.

Originally posted by souls
I don't think that is true. I have seen some average women, whom can take on the average man head on. A woman will always be a prey for reproduction, no matter what. It depends on the state of mind of the woman. If she believes herself to be some frail, princess that has no way of being stronger than a man, this is what she will be. If she believes herself to be a strong, independent, and intelligent woman, this is what she will be. The same applies to any man. There is no difference really because a strong man is strong because he believes himself to be strong. The same applies to a weak man. The difference the state of mind makes shows in the way they live their life and when the s hits the fan.

No offence to you, but this is precisely the type of mindset I was referring to before. If you take away the false delusions created by a society that values unnatural attributes (such as fairness and equality) - which will happen when civilised society ceases to exist - then you are left with survival of the best prepared and fittest.

If you wish to believe that mental strength alone triumphs over physical strength then that is your right. I just hope for your own sake you test this theory before the onset of a real SHTF scenario because I think you in for a nasty surprise.

[edit on 18/7/2010 by Dark Ghost]

Originally posted by vaevictis

Originally posted by aboveandbeyond
Hi,

I'm not sure if it's been posted on ATS somewhere before, but I'll ask it anyway: do you think females will be targeted even more than men when(if) the worst happens? Do you think dystopian scenarios where women become a commodity hold water?

Mods, if this topic's been covered, my apologies.

You can answer here or u2u me if you like.

Cheers.

i also think many women are going to be forced to abandon pants,to make them more vulnerable and easier to deal with if they attempt to escape for instance.

Interesting observation, it may sound far-fetched but (unfortunately) it does make sense. I would definitely feel less secure (and very angry) if my pants were taken away , I see now the saying who wears pants makes more sense than ever.