Welcome to the Unpossible Future... The AGI Manhattan Project

reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss


We only know of what we read of Tesla and now I realize the science he pursued is
all his and those working with his work are not about to share any facts.
The Titanic iceberg being an act of God negates conspiracy of man but the immediate
consequence was JJ Astor friend and financier of Tesla died in 1912. Tesla 1914 had to
sell his science to Germany and world consequences began to roll. Some of us can only
speculate that by the end of WWII Germany had some fully developed science now captured
by the US and Russia and given international sanctions.

We know what Tesla wrote and the possible result of his science. Thus we can only observe
what we can not understand at times but the workings are all natural and evidently the
result of Tesla science at times.

ED: Einsteins quantum formulations of empirical data formulations were just outstanding and
people just had to raise their hands in the air and give up, he was just that good.
Thus great fame and adulation. Tesla knew he had the mechanics of nature wrapped up in
his coils and was not about to tell anyone because he wanted the construction job.
However by his statements he knew he would win by way of his great work.

I apologize everyone for my broken articles, both photobucket and youtube banned my accounts long ago destroying some 5 years of work in the process.

reply to post by atlasastro


Do note that I wrote this almost 2 years ago. Also this and its companion pieces are amongst the last real publishing or even online debating I've done since then so I'm quite rusty while I havent been paying much attention to the 'news' during this time pursuing my own selfsuffiency from this broken 'civilization'.

Anyways, so key accords related to AGW have broken down...
For one thing I'd like to think that the efforts of the 'ground forces' in particular certain interwebs hackers ended up having a major hand in that.

Moving on, AGW based wealth sequestation is but a contingency. And despite worst case scenario AGW specific 'global government' implementations, you're missing the point. The point herein is its the justification for endless funding of such systems, of particular relevence being its the side of the coin to keep the "Dem" half of the population all unwittingly lockstep in the same AGI direction as the "Cons" WoT is the inherent 'unintended' consequence.

A 'Mad Max' meltdown is but another contingency, in my view. I didnt mean to make it sound like its absolutely the goal, whereas the real objective in this vein would be to plunder the wealth of the nations, leaving all but a handful of wealthy amongst them, preventing the global masses from being able to afford life extension / immortality technologies. It wont take 'Mad Max' to keep everyone too poor to live forever.

Meanwhile can you really argue that AGW type arguments haven't already begun to have a major impact on global wealth? You seem to imply that my entire piece here is hinged on the success of whether or not the worst case scenario(s) of looming trends I underscored.

The reality is the world is already more or less the de facto global government run by shadow banksters with their nearly global system of fiat currency and money that actually represents debt. Those few nations that don't comply have already been invaded (Iraq, etc), or could be as soon as tomorrow (Iran, etc.).

Things like a AGW driven 'global government' are more in tune with an PUBLICLY OPEN EMBRACE of such a concept that if the chips were actually laid out we'd see it anyways, for the most part. Many Texans think they're Texans, but in truth they're really United Statesians (or United Provincians as I prefer to call it). Watch how fast Texas would be clusterbombed and brutally invaded if they actually tried to break FREE. Such a lonewolf proposal sounds like a perfect scenario for the .gov to justify the worlds largest standing internment camp if you ask me.

The US thinks its the world. It's hardcore indoctrinated into our core. Similar to how apparently Europeans actually believe the Europe and Asia are 2 different continents... the idea that there are 7 of them when theres in truth only 6... And the madness that we here are even taught the same lunacy from childhood.

But whoever builds the worlds first and quite likely only AGI global network... will be the 'world', per se. Herein I hardly even dabbled in the realities of the multiple plateaus of US-EU integration... specifically the EU's own parallel NBIC / AGI programs that are impressive in their own rights, and complementary to the US AGI programs. Nor do I recall mentioning herein China's global brain AGI projects (lead by the EU's mad scientist Hugo de Garis). It wouldn't be too hard to draw up an outline how the US and China tyrannies are more and more one in the same.

But the point with this piece in particular was to hopefully rally people here to maybe try and stop it, here. Go from there.

It seems I should have mentioned somewhere herein that the 'total collapse' potential outcome, which I do maintain is inevitable following the path we're on, isn't a key in making these things come about. Instead its a very possible endgame... when they have all the pieces in place that they need. I would never publish the notion that they would smash the entire system without having all they need first. I dont think I said that this nightmare would be in a month (which is long past). I dont think I even put a specific 'date' of anything specific.

I dont claim to know whether or not they have 'it all in place', enough to 'smash us all out' 'once and for all'. If you dig into my body of work you will see me say many times that I dont think thats going to come about until they can warp our brains with nanobots (hooked into said AGI). As far as we commoners know such nanobots dont exist, nor does AGI to dominate us via them.

But then again its remarkable that DARPA / NASA / etc all have these plans and the related programs laid out right in their public websites. Many military strategists would say they exist.

Argh my old 10,000 character limit is now 5,000. I had to squeeze that last bit in there. If there had been the Internet 50 years ago do you think they would have posted detailed pages and even videos / multimedia presentations showing their plans to build the Blackbird SR76 or the first 2 stealth planes?? Could I have gone on there and seen flowcharts showing how they intended to build the worlds first hydrogen bomb?

That they post these things on their pages (that the media doesnt even report on) is chilling. Yet apparently Big Foot, Jewcahabra (lol), (hypothetical) UFO possibilities, Justin Beiber, would I rather see Romney all the time on TV or Obama for the next 4 years, etc, are all more important.

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
I'm all for Transhumanism...

I'm all for the Technological Singularity...

I have spent my whole life looking forward to the technologies you have pointed at... I can't wait to reach my 250th birthday and still be a spring chicken... I am looking forward to having questions and being able to interrogate all of human knowledge in a fraction of a nanosecond... I am waiting the day when I can shape my own reality with ultra-definition.

Why do I get the impression that there are many that think this is a bad thing??

Humanity is about to evolve into something else, something better...

Korg.

I agree with this sentiment. The problem is this change could be so awesome for us, but it is being controlled by greedy people only serving themselves.

I mean imagine the good that could come from being able to read someone's mind - you could literally share your inner thoughts with other people you love. Instead it will be used to beam ads straight into your brain.

Thanks for the thread OP. Interesting time

reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss


THIS... is why I became a member of ATS. Threads such as this: well researched; well put together; well documented. I will take the rest of the next week following the trail of info you have presented. This is the type of thread that made ATS great IMHO.
I will respond with more clarity after I have fully digested all you have presented
SNF
ELO

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Thank you! Considering my youtube and photobucket accounts were banned shortly atfer building this presentation, and its other chapters, thus crippling my presentatons, that means a lot to me that it still has some meaning. This was only one part in I think 5 I published, a few more I never got to. The others are on ATS, in my sig maybe even.

reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss


Fantastic thread, posted so i can read properly later.

SF

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Brilliant series of OPs. This is just what I was looking for: the details of the NWO "Elysium."

And to think this was posted six years ago.

Your OPs do NOT get enough attention.

a reply to: AuranVector

Thanks!

This stuff is all out in the open, it kind of always was, but its like everywhere now... so there's really wasn't much left to "prove" after this series.

It sucks shortly after making this series both Photobucket (paid account) & Youtube nuked my accounts with no explanation or recourse. So the media is all screwed (obviously). There was a PDF posted in here back then.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

May God protect you and reward you for your research and efforts to get the truth out.

If you have a bunch of summary links that still work, maybe putting them here now would be helpful.

Blessings,

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Great work! ...Skimmed and scanned. Will read more closely later.

Posting to bump, and keep it on my favourites list.

Thank you.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

How's that complete collapse coming along? The tried and true leading indicator, the stock market must have missed your economic prophecy memo...is it time to sell? The Bull Market since the date of this OP must be some shadow government machination, huh? Reality really set in...

a reply to: soficrow



a reply to: BeefNoMeat

Did I say collapse was to be immediate? Or did I say I never really figured they'd flick the house of cards until they had all their AGI / life extension technologies where they want them? Although we did come damn close in '08, and it could have happened thru '09. Their engineered housing market collapse, how far they took it, that was a risky game. Or didn't the housing market collapse in '08? Okay, it has rebounded half way decent towards normal. But at the time it was total devastation for millions. The plundering of the nation was kicked into total overdrive.

My thesis in my "Economic World War" piece was that the game is they're "going to become gods. period.", but not everyone will be able to (billions of people living 'forever', puhlease.

So their game is to plunder the masses so that we can't partake, if we desire.

And that's what the engineered housing collapse was about, in my view.

Oh, good for the stock market. Somehow it's all time high type scenario despite an ever increasingly marginalized middle class, standard of living for all. Half the people in the 30's and on younger got wasted by the school loan debt slave racket. We're all socially engineered to be rampant consumers in massive debt slavery. And on and on it goes.

And then there's society tearing itself apart thanks to their social engineering scheme run amok [Social Group Warfare (SGW)]. And the same tech companies (Google, etc) are ringleaders in the SJW mania movement, investing billions of dollars into all that SJWFRONT. A total obsession with 'trans', which to me its obviously a precursor to crafting the liberals into transhumanist evangelists. And on and on it goes. And of course everyones too out their minds with this looming civil war situation to even notice or care about all this accelerating change stuff.

So I'd say things are right on course, even more dramatically than I ever expected given the social media impact. Between their social engineering, and everyone on social media, we've failed as a species. And when the AGI comes that what its going to craft it assessment on us by. iRobot beaotches.

www.usdebtclock.org...
Total Collapse is inevitable (as that IS the design afterall)...

You should actually read the piece:
Economic World War: Technocratic Plutocrat Elites vs. The People

Sadly not too long after I posted up all this project Youtube & Photobucket (paid account) nuked my accounts, with no recourse, both within a 2 week window, which totally neutered my presentations, but the text is still valuable. Note how I pointed out that despite ever increasing computer power, meaning the system should run better and better, but instead it just runs increasingly roughshod over the populace. That's the design.

DP

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I'll leave the sociological/anthropological take with you...if "ifs and buts were candy and nuts, everyday would be Christmas", so the whole equivocation about "although we did come damn close in '08, and it could have happened in '09..." is weak, when, indeed, you intimidated total collapse in the OP saying, "Meanwhile, not only has the global economy imploded rather dramatically, all the hard numbers point to a total collapse, especially in the USA.". Your words. Your premise. You were wrong. Period.

You can opine on the socioeconomic dynamics unfolding (e.g. a fact-based analysis of the ever increasing 'wealth gap' in American society), but you don't get to walk back a declarative, when in fact the data (or history) proves you stone-cold wrong. Interesting, the impact on a capitalist society, when wealth concentration is so stratified, but it has zero to do with the macroeconomics of the US economy, much less the global. A symptom of the socioeconomic dynamics currently unfolding in the USofA: Donald Trump's ascension to the Oval Office? I'd wager so, but I'm a trained economist (not exactly the panty-dropping inducing profession, but I digress), so I'd be interested in a take bourn of the sociological/anthropological disciplines.

There are numerous other leading indicators, along with some lagging indicators, that continue to point to a structurally
Sound economy that is still the largest, most dynamic economy in the world.

Sorry, but nothing in the macroeconomics of the years that have passed since the OP, point to anything but the opposite of your economic doom porn. Maybe there's something in the socioeconomic angle, but this dog (the OP) won't hunt... I don't expect you to admit you were dead wrong, but I at least showed you where you spoke of a collapse ( you asked, "where?") and am more than willing to provide additional data about how inaccurate you were (honestly, it's been 6-7 years and nothing of what you asserted manifested into anything remotely close to the economic doom porn you were peddling).

Cheers

a reply to: BeefNoMeat

By "hard numbers" I was referring to long term trends, not immediate. America is on the outs by every possible metric (besides partisanship, propaganda, identity politics, military), and its intensifying right in parallel with the supercomputers infrastructure. Why would I talk about that, if I was insisting that the world was going to end 'tomorrow'???

I'm a 'futurism' trends forecaster. I never claimed to be an economist, nor have I in my entire life ever gone and placed some end date on collapse (not even the stock market)... nor would I. I quit even reading economic forecasting kind of stuff years ago. All the time reading and fretting you can be out trying to attack the route causes; be preparing yourself; etc. Besides,I knew then the same as now it's all a long con game to plunder us down to nil to keep us sheeple from participating in their immortal tech heaven on earth (nwo elitist 'archipelago' havens, or whatever). "Period."

Honestly havent read these pieces in forever. With all the media neutered out I cant even bear it.

But I know my thinking before the Great Recession. And I know it after it. And I know it now.

Regardless of anyones wishful thinking, this:
www.usdebtclock.org...
THAT is unsustainable. It's absolutely unprecedented in all of human history. One doesn't have to be an economist to see that.

Anyways, here is when I first went on record with my "Economic World War" hypothesis:

Neocommunism to prevent the masses from affording Life Extension technologies (November 14, 2008)

Note that this project thrust here was mid 2010.

But yeah back then the Great Recession hit home hard for me. My then career, that whole industry is gone never to return. So I was citing Celente around then. But all this tech stuff, that was the core of my fire back then.


Alright its way late, and I'm seriously partied out, but I'll try to post the second half of my response tomorrow....

Starred ya. Your challenge here all got me thinking about a lot of stuff from / relating to that (me stuff, and IIB stuff) that I havent put much thought to in forever.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I absolutely commend you for the response and the substance of your response. It's getting ever-so-hard to have a discussion here (ATS) without name-calling or reverting back to the lowest common denominator. I appreciate you making an effort to provide additional information and dialogue that I can go back and ingest in a palatable fashion - I will read up on the debt clock link and do my best to respond in-kind.

Again, I appreciate the measured reply and recognize we all have differing opinions, to a certain degree, about the state of our (from your response I am certain you're an American) indebted nation.

I don't have a link at present, but something you may find interesting is the "savings glut" of the Chinese economy during the 2000's that saw the US economy selling trillions of US Treasury securities to the Chinese. In other words, the data is there to illustrate that, in fact, the Chinese were playing the long game of handicapping the US economy by hoarding dollars.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, I appreciate the substance of our conversation and hope you have more to share such that I can better understand the thrust of your take(s) as it relates to the collapse of the US economy -- you've provided plenty and I understand if you don't feel there is anymore to be discussed, but I have the sneaky suspicion you're willing to continue to share... Take care

Stars , flags, and a big.
I ike the logic here, while not buying everyhing you set out. But an overall above average OP.

I'm tagging this to find it again. I will use these links a lot.

Thank you OP for a great thread.

Thanks guys. I want to respond further, but am all bogged down trying to finish my ultimate work, my "Double Feature". So I'm trying to keep from being distracted, but getting this bit posted into here has been a thorn in my mind. It speaks to all of this insane social metldown situation, from my comments in the following piece (from a while ago). I had intended a big 'sequel' to it but then my stream of consciousness went in other directions. If you factor all of this project in with that one (and subsequent posts this year), its mostly all covered in my body of work, really.

The Hypocrites Iron Fist - The PC Movement in light of the War on Drugs

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: Asktheanimals
The fact the PTB are pushing such groups as the BLM so hard is a sure sign to me that they (the PTB) are more criminal than ever and are in fact getting ready to institute global governance whether we like it or not. It's coming and soon and the signs of it are popping up in the shootings of police officers in Dallas and Baton Rouge. First they will federalize the police then under the Strong Cities Initiative they can bring in mercenaries from other countries to keep things under control. Gun confiscation is sure to follow along with biometric ID of everyone.

If you do not speak out and do what you can to stop this madness you will reap the whirlwind.
We will all reap it much to our sorrow.

Good post!

The global government angle is a big one. They've always wanted it. They've kind of 'always' had it though too.

The going outta style desperation we see happening on that end, like with the engineered housing collapse, and several other big items, this SJW "Social Group Warfare (SGW)" thing being the newest and most hardcore diversionary element probably in human history, all of these things, their mad struggle, their "knuckles running white with desire" to get it all done even when their methods expose them, their gambling ALL of their power structure to achieve... I attribute these things to:
The AGI Manhattan Project

Their goals with it that is, I see these things as an preemptive war:

War comes in 4 main forms: psychological, economic, political, and military conflict.

We've sort of always had all four running here or there in different forms. Now, here in the US, we have all four running against US increasingly HOT.

Right after the housing collapse I argued that it was preemptive economic warfare to set in motion a future where the little people wont get to have indefinite lifespans, along with the elites, which they are convinced tech will grant them.
Economic World War: Technocratic Plutocrat Elites vs. The People

We've always had psychological warfare being waged against us, with the Politics of Fear being one of the biggest and ugliest forms of it.
The Global Meltdown of FEAR: Eliminated by 60+ visual aids.

No discussion of modern US politics of fear is complete without what we've been seeing for 2 decades with the Big Media driven endless school shooter copycat cycle which is exclusive to the USA).

That talking point effectively constitutes both politics of fear psyop and a perverse form of military action, it could be argued.

Diversion being the biggest effect however, diversion being the staple of subversive propaganda.

Subversion, that's what I'm convinced all this SJW CRT/PS mania being rammed down everyones throats is all about. Whoever crafted this stuff, they are an unsung modern Einstein.

This crazy ISIS stuff, especially in Europe, yeah that's some serious dark and sneaky "military action" kind of subversion, which those attacks (politics of fear megadrive) also ensure outward perpetual wars (and more diversion with them).

Why all this desperate diversion? They already had the money, the control, the owned the big "fish tank", I argue this is all about them ensuring there's not a chance the masses wise up and make a national, a global discussion about the Technological Singularity and all of its inherent potential pitfalls for the human species.

They're being promised with immortality. And they're doing everything to ensure that they get it, and we wont.

That's the jist of "Part 2" of this mega post. In writing it I'll mostly be back in familiar territory. I dont know if it'll be done in 6 days or 6 months. I've already written, made intense films about it all, already. I REALLY need to get back to my crushingly busy life now, my profession that has nothing to do with any of this (quite the opposite, quite deliberately). But what I've already caught onto is, Google (the chief driving force behind AGI/TS, in lockstep with essentially every facet of the US .gov/.mil, and the entire technocratic infrastructure (see my AGI Manhattan Project post)), they're spending millions (possibly even billions) in pushing the SJW agenda. Any of you want to follow the work it isn't too hard to Google the stuff. And please do, I just dont have the option to live this stuff all the time all year like I used to.

Anyone see that report of a Chinese factory going totally automated ? I can see the world full of goods no one can buy, with soup kitchens run by the government at every street corner, with the clientele in rags...
Power stations fuelled by dead bodies to keep the factories going to make goods no one can afford...

The elites living in real castles, with their retinue of shirt makers and car mechanics living in the casemates....