72 hours to live

The terrorist who have the contractor "Mr. Johnston" have stated that the man only has 72 hours to live if the U.S. doesn't give them what they want.
We all know Bush isn't going to give into their demands.

How many more deaths of U S non- service people is it going to take before something is done to protect the american people that is over-seas?




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[edit on 16-6-2004 by nanna_of_6]

Ok.. call me shallow... but these people knew there was a risk when they went over. Especially in Iraq and they were paid very well for their services. When you work for the enemy you are the enemy. These guys are just easier to pick off than a soldier with an assault rifle.

I'm sure these contract workers understand the dangers of the middle east at this time. It is their prerogative to go in their or not to go in, but I guess they go in because they need to earn their living.

Anyway, this person in captivity will most likely have his life end at the hands of a war America supports.

How many more deaths of non-service people? Many more, in my opinion.

[edit on 16-6-2004 by IMMORTAL]

I agree with Indy and Immortal the contract workers know how dangerous it is but then again this kinda of thi8ng never happened before.

We cannot give in to terrorist demands because if we do that will be a green light for more kidnappings.

The US and many other countries have never given in to terrorist demands because they know what will happen. Look at what happened to the Japanese citizens and Japan did not give in to the terrorist demands....did the terrorists kidnap more Japanese people? It is also a propaganda from terrorist to claim that the countries of these people do not care for them, but giving in to terrorist demands would be worse as that person, or those people, will not be released either way.

It is a shame that it has to happen but these people going to work in countries where they are not secure knew what they were getting into.

There have been millions of civilian deaths in many different wars. Especialy World War 2. Check this site out. Scroll down to the WW2 estimates.

Unfortunately , this is a part of war.


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Nutzo

[edit on 16-6-2004 by nutzobalzo]

america don't negotiate with terriosts because what's a life of a average citizen to the government. as bad as it sounds, but we are just like ants in the streets, our individual life don't mean squat to them.

If this keeps up and they manage to get all of the engineers, one by one, that work on our Apache helicopter, then what ? Will Pres. Bush send any of our U.S. troop's mechanic's in to work on these choppers, if we have such a thing .

It say's in this artical that the "Saudi prince" has warned these terrorist, that he is posting more sercurity forces, and the terrorist will not know/see them until it's to late for them.

Here's a quote from the artical, with their demands.

The statement on the Web site says the holy warriors of the Arabian peninsula's Fallujah Brigade has "hit" the engineering team that "oversees the development of the American Apache helicopter that attacks Muslims in Palestine and Afghanistan."

It says: "The Fallujah Brigade has killed the director of this team and kidnapped one of its engineers, Paul Johnson, and if the tyrannical Saudi government wants their American master to be released, then they have to release our holy warriors that are held in Ha'ir, Ruweis and Alisha prisons within 72 hours of this statement's date."

We don't negotiate with terrorists. Wanna bet that rule goes out the window if a congressman, cabinet member or the vp or president gets captured. I'd bet the farm we negotiate heavy then.

It seem's that they have killed more contractors recently. I found this inside of the "news site " I posted. It also states that some companies are pulling their contractors out.


Gunmen opened fire from a highway overpass west of Baghdad, disabling two of the contractors' vehicles and killing an unknown number of people, U.S. Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, deputy operations chief, told reporters.

posted on 15-6-2004 at 07:39 PM
We don't negotiate with terrorists. Wanna bet that rule goes out the window if a congressman, cabinet member or the vp or president gets captured. I'd bet the farm we negotiate heavy then.

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So true Indy. It just depends on who you are and what you statue is .
All the contractors would be smart to leave if they have any sence, but greed is a terrible thing. It's sad though.
My cousin's son joined the service not long ago ( fresh out of high school ), when he finished basic training and came home on leave, he said the most iddyottic thing I ever heard. He said it's going to be fun over in Iraq killing the enemy ( shaking head ), makes me wonder what their telling these kids to get them to join and during "basic".
Anyway, we all know that the killings are not going to stop, and as you said Indy it just depends on who the hostage is.

What do you think the response would be if the hostage were Jenna Bush? OMG. We don't negotiate with terrorists? ha. They'd empty the Saudi jails to get her free.

How many times have any of you taken risks but just figured you would not get caught? These people probably had some idea of the risk but just figured they would be ok because those bad things always happen to someone else. Thats the way most people's mind works, it won't happen to me. Like for instance I live where there are many poisonous snakes and always have been taught to look before I step, so I felt pretty confident that I was a careful person and knew to look, one day I went to the mailbox, I was deep in thought and just was not paying attention and actually stepped on one and it bit me, fortunately it was a garter snake but it could just as easily have been a rattler or copperhead. I was lucky! My point is that knowing the risks doesn't really mean we are really aware of how vulnerable we are, we all have this idea that we will be ok, get through it somehow safely and most of the time we do which is one more reason we always believe we will make it through any situation ok. We all know the risk of getting in a car and driving down the highway, its so risky most states require you to have insurance in case of an accident, but yet we do it everyday. You drive to work and everywhere else for your own reasons they probably have reasons too, making money, their job gone at home, being broke needing a job, etc., it does not matter because we all believe down deep inside that we will be safe.

you know Bush would move heaven and earth if they had one of his family members to get them back, then he would be hell-bent on hunting them down to "even the score", like he did with Saddam and "good old dad".

Just think what would happen if they got ahold of Pres. Bush,.... there would be no negotiations, they'd kill him on the spot and be-head him, put it all on video on their internet site for the whole world to see, they'd have captured the "top Prize" in this war and brag about it. this whole thing is .

I feel bad for this man but I'm afraid that if they carry this out this man will be yet another person whom our country will classify as collateral damage. He knew the risks going in, as do all of our soldiers, If it were me there, and they had a choice to let me die or let the al quada member go, then by all means, when its my time, its my time.

Just a small correction to the origional post...The hostage takers are demanding that the Saudi government release prisoners...not the US.

""If the tyrants of the Saudi government want their master -- Paul Marshall Johnson -- to be released, they must release the mujahedeen held in the prisons in Haer, Ar-Ruwais and Allecha within 72 hours," the gunman said. "Otherwise, we will execute him to avenge our Muslim brothers whose blood has been spilled freely in several parts [of the world.]"

"Adel Al-Jubeir, an adviser to Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, said the tape "shows the cruel and inhumane face of the enemy that we're dealing with."

"We're determined to ensure the safety of the hostage, and, hopefully and God willing, we'll be able to free him and restore him to his family," Al-Jubeir told CNN.

But Al-Jubeir indicated it is unlikely the gunman's demand for release of prisoners would be met because the Saudi government has a policy of not negotiating with terrorists."

www.cnn.com...

What Bush is really saying i guess is that "if you are not a high profile citizen of the US then we cant do much for you" this isnt a quote from him but i imagine could it come from him

How many more deaths of U S non- service people is it going to take before something is done to protect the american people that is over-seas?

How about moving your fat asses out of other countries that you have no right to mess with ? :-)

How come only people with fat asses have to move out of other countries? That's just not right man.

On a serious note: I don't see this man being freed even though we all wish it. Giving in to terrorist demands just makes more terrorist demands. They can capture people all day long and make new demands.