Did NASA Fake the Mars Rovers?

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Is one of your favorite toys a remote control car?

If NASA creates a mars rover that communicates from mars then the signal reaches from the distance of mars.
The signal doesn’t reach from the distance of mars.
Nonetheless, NASA creates a mars rover that doesn’t communicate from mars.

If NASA communication signals reaches mars then NASA communication signal from the mars rover.
The NASA communication signals reaches mars
Therefore, NASA communication signals from the mars rover.

If the pictures are from mars then the mars rover is on mars.
The Mars rover is not on mars.
Therefore, the pictures are not from mars.

NASA creates a remote control rover that is impossible to reach mars.
NASA fakes the situation they plan with the mars rover.
Therefore, NASA creates a remote control rover that’s impossible to reach mars and fakes the situation they plan with the mars rover.

NASA sends the the Mars Rover to mars with communication or NASA fakes the situation.
NASA didn’t send the Mars Rover to mars with communication.
Therefore, NASA fakes the situation.

If the mars rover lands on mars with communication then NASA sent the Mars Rover to mars.
The mars rover lands on mars with communication.
Therefore, NASA sent the mars rover to mars with communication.

The distance from earth and mars is about 33,926,867.1 miles.
The distance from earth and mars changes.

Think about how NASA sends the mars rover
Think about how NASA is able to communicate from that distance.



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[edit on 12-7-2010 by Erad3]

What the hell are you talking about?

reply to post by Erad3


IMO they did not since they are unmanned craft that sent them there.

Though is there more to Mars and the missions, YES I do believe so.

Peace

reply to post by Chadwickus


I second this, it's like a limerick of true false, false, false, true statements.

I *think* he was talking about how the signal is incapable of coming from Mars? So therefor the rover couldn't be on Mars if it's sending data back? Likened to the terrestrial original confused as being extraterrestrial during the Moon landing?

But I honestly have no idea what he's talking about.

reply to post by Chadwickus


I think we need a translator..

Maybe they are speaking Martian

Could you please state your argument in the form of, er, an argument? What makes you think the Mars rovers are not on Mars? Or, if they are, that NASA is somehow altering the pictures they are sending back?

reply to post by mryanbrown


I don't believe it's possible to send the mars rover to mars.
I don't believe it's possible to stabilize communication from mars to earth.

[edit on 12-7-2010 by Erad3]

reply to post by mryanbrown


Yes, I can imagine an astrophysicist standing in a field somewhere with a toy remote control trying to make it control a rover on mars.

I can even imagine the perplexed look on his face, because it is the same perplexed look I was making whilst reading the OP.

Erad3, for the sake of trying to not go completely off topic here, you do realise that a controller used to drive a RC car is nothing like the way they would operate the rovers on Mars right?

OK, though not easy to understand I got what the OP was on about LOL.

Bit of a silly topic yes, but had an easy answer IMO based up the lack of argument in the OP's post.

No big deal so why the fuss? seen alot worse posts of recent on ATS, this one made me laugh a bit to be honest.

Peace

[edit on 12/7/2010 by TheDon]

reply to post by Chadwickus


I guess when you consider here on Earth they loose contact with planes, Subs, Missiles and stuff, it is remarkable they can remain in contact with a tiny rover millions of miles away...and control it remotely.

Originally posted by DJW001
Or, if they are, that NASA is somehow altering the pictures they are sending back?

It's already been proven NASA alters the images from MARS pre-transmission. (God I love those ESA photos much more than NASA's)

There is a little dial/knob on the front of the rover. And when you color correct the photo to the actual color of the knob...

You see Mars looks fairly identical to the Arizona desert (which coincidentally is where it was made). The sky is blue, the ground looks like normal brown dirt.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
Yes, I can imagine an astrophysicist standing in a field somewhere with a toy remote control trying to make it control a rover on mars.

That's essentially what they do regardless xD.

Erad3, for the sake of trying to not go completely off topic here, you do realise that a controller used to drive a RC car is nothing like the way they would operate the rovers on Mars right?

This is true, most of the time the rovers for instance are sending their signals to a satellite in orbit, which then relays to another satellite near Earth's orbit before being received at NASA.

(Which is where the possibility of making a terrestrial broadcast appear as extra-terrestrial can be faked. Haven't you ever seen that Charlie Sheen movie? xD)

reply to post by Erad3


Why do you believe it to be impossible, getting objects too mars isn't the really hard part, its getting people there.


I don't unnderstand why you think its possible to comunicate over a planet but some how impossible in space ? Why is it not possible too maintain a comunications link, its not that hard with enough power, equipment and time.


[edit on 12-7-2010 by Question why]

Originally posted by mryanbrown
That's essentially what they do regardless xD.

Not quite.

All the rover's movements are pre-programmed so when the small window of alignment occurs, they send the information and the rover will go about it's business automatically, there's no one sitting at a monitor trying to drive it with a 20 minute time delay.

Originally posted by TheDon
OK, though not easy to understand I got what the OP was on about LOL.

Bit of a silly topic yes, but had an easy answer IMO based up the lack of argument in the OP's post.

No big deal so why the fuss? seen alot worse posts of recent on ATS, this one made me laugh a bit to be honest.

Peace

[edit on 12/7/2010 by TheDon]

I disagree with this thread being a silly topic.
This is a seriously government funded program.
This is a seriously government funded program.

Support evidence to deny the programs goals and aspirations.

Originally posted by Question why
reply to post by Erad3

 

Why do you believe it to be impossible, getting objects too mars isn't the really hard part, its getting people there.


I don't unnderstand why you think its possible to comunicate over a planet but some how impossible in space ? Why is it not possible too maintain a comunications link, its not that hard with enough power, equipment and time.


[edit on 12-7-2010 by Question why]

These are the topics that are impossible to achieve.

These are the thesis statements for this thread.

- The sending of the Mars Rover from Earth to Mars.

- The entering of the atmosphere of Mars.

- The layers of atmosphere for mars.

- The landing is very troublesome to believe.

- The mars rover coming out of the landing process.

- The mars rover still being powered to operate.

- The signal of communication from mars to earth.

- The weather conditions of mars to effect the inside of the rover and landing.

- The course the Mars Rover takes to arrive through the atmosphere of Mars.

These are the topics that need to be discuss as not being possible.

[edit on 12-7-2010 by Erad3]

[edit on 12-7-2010 by Erad3]

No, they didn't fake them.
It's one thing to get probes to distant locations, it's another to get humans there.

Ok, this is silly...can you tell me that how voyager 1 did send this pic to earth from ganymed (jupiter moon)?



or from miranda (uranus moon)?


please think about: "i don't think its possible" Thats not an argument for anything.

[edit on 12-7-2010 by cushycrux]

[edit on 12-7-2010 by cushycrux]

Originally posted by ppk55
No, they didn't fake them.
It's one thing to get probes to distant locations, it's another to get humans there.

Please provide more information on the answer no.

This will help the thread greatly.

We're not posting about a man or woman arriving on mars.

Ok ask yourself this question. WHY would they fake it? What benefit would there be?

reply to post by cushycrux


The communication is not possible for a signal to be sent from the distance.
The picture that are being provided are fake.

I have to think about the communication from the earth.
How is this reaching the target from the earth?