Show us ONE, just one UFO pic or ANY evidence that can be proven as evidence of visitation.

reply to post by IamBoon


I think it is more believable to think we had some form of help from a smarter or greater race than us, than that we just knew everything from the getgo.

Well as a 20 something USAF Sargent.
I was sure I had a firm grasp on our technical & scientific prow-is.
I was one of a group that was abducted while off base from my station at Holloman AFB. (Sister Base Roswell)

I have also asked for hard proof years myself.
I thought that the proof would bring validation to my experience.
I thought that the public had a real desire to know the truth.

I found myself thinking that I was one of the most prepared individuals to be able to handle this subject in my 20's.
Now at 50 I realize that the proof for me was only given on an individual basis.
That it has to be accepted by you & you alone.
That you must personally give up the idea your going to bring it too the public.

My answer was given in the form of a tree.
The leaves turned white in the summer.
It was not sick.
They lasted for a day or so.

My answer was scurried off on a Sunday by a group of men that showed up to trim the tree's on a village marked truck.
Every one knows that small village consoles have money to burn cleaning up such things.

These creatures do seem to have a sense of humor.

I truly wish you good luck in your endeavors.

I am also wishing that you might open your mind to personal proof.
Something for self.
Maybe so personal that a friend or spouse would not even need to be privy too.
It might be more likely too be given to you.

The personal path is where I was lead.
As I look back later in life.
I wish now that I followed I had followed that path.

Destruction of a sense of security ensued for my self & those around me.
When I took the public path.

Three died.
One of them took her own life.
All because I believed that the public needed to know in my heart.
Good intention's do not cut the mustard in this subject.
I found that a selfish, self assured attitude leads to darkness.

Seek it for yourself.
Don't drag in the unknowing or unwilling.
The rick you take should be your own.
I payed the price.
I have the validation though.
But its mine and mine alone.

Seek the truth & it shall be laid out before you.
There is light.
Just make sure you are ready.
Make sure you really want what your asking for.

For those that just throw out accusations.
For those that just want too argue.
Leave them to their darkness.

If you need any help along the path.
I am willing to talk while I am still allowed to.

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ive read enough of this thread to realize there is no correct answer here. the whole game is rigged. the deniers are apparently going to require such extraordinary evidence as to call into question the reality of ANYTHING whatsoever. i personally dont find the concept of alien existance or visitation that tough to swallow. whats so absurd about it again?

i will say as far as claimed thoroughness of documented human experience with non-earthers, you cant ask for much more (especially for its time) than the Billy Meier case. could he have been making the whole thing up? sure he could. however if this one-armed farmer was hoaxing you gotta ask 'why?'. in the meantime the guy took tons of photos and videos and journaled in detail all of his experiences over SEVERAL YEARS. still he is neither rich nor famous so to what end?

ok gang, with that said, nitey nite.

Here is an autopsy done on Roswell. He might be OP's first cousin.

www.youtube.com...

What years were you stationed at Holloman AFB. The reason I ask is because I was born there from around the same time you were there...(from your post). Dad was stationed there and has told me some stories that make ya shutter a little bit.

reply to post by wavemaker


I thought that was real for so long buttttt
the guy who made it came out and said it was a hoax ages ago haha

Originally posted by zabby
reply to post by wavemaker

 

I thought that was real for so long buttttt
the guy who made it came out and said it was a hoax ages ago haha

How did he convince you that it was a hoax? Did he say, "Well guys, I made that video and that is just a hoax! lol"?

Yeah, go watch all 5 episodes of the history channels "ancient aliens" there's plenty of proof in that series. Honestly, even if we had no proof, pictures or video of UFO or alien encounters, still statistically speaking we cannot be alone in this universe.

hei,these ufo you all think and call aliens ships,are not,they are human made,these engines vessels or whatever you like call them are only and i mean only for innerplanetary flight or and some off these designs are only for earth,real aliens dont fly with interplanteray ship systems the use others iff you want know find mee else just listen here to mee.iff we have saucer shapes disc that can fly here on earth deoictet for over 30000 years ago that only mean one thing,the human bases that one time was established there have been there longer than you think,they also have very big sadnes in hearth seing planet earth using their powers to make tyranny on man still,in all aspects.ok,sorry no politicaal here,but please understand these planes have been used against son of man in manymany years,im getting pretty tired that humanity have to go down each time because they think they can make it better,but pleas remeber civilisation is a mathmatical impossibillity almost,so iff anyone crush humanty then its not sure we ever get up og when we do again,maybee next time it takes 50000 years,whos to know,but iff pictures are 30000 years old,then humans have had about 3 civilisations then in the last 40000-50000 years,iff anyone survives from here then its beacuse they made moonbase or all over,they had broke they human age problem,so what are we up against here,im soon getting irretated,mostly iff the americans not soon find out iff these planes are theres,they need to SHOOT THEM DOWN,iff not,we all need to prepare for magnetic warfare,that means our whole army is constructed wrong,but can fast change,but only iff they get the time,maybee surprise attacks can prevent this.so amerika,iff you have had encounters from beings calling themselves aliens,then dont belive,they human leftovers they look like this becasue born and raised in other planet and gravity,iff anyone want proof in how to se diffrence in real aliens and stupid human sudo religious people that exploit technology to strike fear in man,if anyone want know ,remeber one thing,on the planet is someone that se it all in all time.
why is it my bachyard is visible from space but space is junk for mee,is earth under supervision from others,i find all these things super grotesc that anyone belive they can get away with all these things and nobody se it.they doo,and to humans that think this is suer technology in these ships they use,its not,its pretty old,and not worth much,human today should make better and crush its opressers from its own garden,so you all understand,these liquid sphers you se are just francium and its controeld with microwaves from ships,its transfer more power and electrons to both fields in bbomb,dont go near them,dangerous,but again,this is human,yours,not alien,you can think about why do anyone want look like that or do this,and why do anyone accept huge ships with cloaking on earth without doing anything,are we under siege.these planes super easy to fight agaisnt,not difficult,find mee iff you really need to prepare,for this,im very keen in magwarswe should commence long range bombing off moon and mars and the 2 moon surrounding mars should be blasted away and odown to mars surface so never can be used as bombs against earth,are you blind humans,what age are you in,one time me think,humans,ahh clever,good in warfare,now i think,where the # are you,,,,,you need sheel mars they dont even have the curtisy to say anything,all these in aliens ships are super respecless over agaisnt all,shoot them down now and fast before they steel all our tech and whatever they want.thw colonys are getting stronger again,i hope some day man from earth can walk,because someone have him on his knees for 30000 years now

The question isn't whether there are UFO's or not because clearly there are. The question is are they secret domestic aircraft or off world spaceships.

Personally I think they are domestic aircraft made by secret government organizations not Aliens.

reply to post by zabby


What is there that implies spontaneous knowledge?

Iff anyone say they are or call themselves an alien specie,thats also possibel iff they live and die and get born on mars,but they still one time was humans,real aliens,from other systems,thats the ones i means,iff someone here say they from other stars,then pleas dont be conned or stupid,ask to se the gravity drive for the long trip,iff no have then no from stars,iff not want show but say have then lie no have,but fast and very fast get these moons cleared from the systems,they are not moons but coellected and planetet there in abou 15000 yer ago for shelling earth from space,i not care you believe,,humans dont even think more.IFf you need help build mag planes then find mee,my tech is better than old days,but i can only make for humans else i never make or draw,to dangerous iff not go to humans,i cannot make enemy off man more stronger,while they sit and discus iff there is aliens or not,people,it doesnt matter,something or someone is flying around in your planet and is cloaked,who cares who they are,get them away,make nullifier beams and mount on fighter jets,should neutrelize the magenetic fields in ships and bring them down,shoot in the spheres the implode and explode then.and remeber the greys have been here before them and is still here,wee need to first accept something is there then we need action ,not sit like sloppy sisters and disgus what it is,iff no have flags then drop it,they need learn to respect man but we also need to have better defense in space,and not these ships you have now,find me i help you.dont start war iff you dont have chance win,dont start iff you cannot see the enemys morters clear the system for dangers that means anything that can drop down,make it drop down on mars or something dead,iff you want contact with the small bases in our solar system then pleas rememeber they scared off us so maybee it better iff we startet talk,they hear and se all,that why pictures are better here than there,wake up,humans you are getting smarter but you still not smart ....
lost grey soul
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reply to post by wavemaker


Yeah he did haha
and there are a few little things people have pointed out on the video that show its fake, don't ask me about it, I wish it was real but yeah

Originally posted by zabby
reply to post by wavemaker

 

Yeah he did haha
and there are a few little things people have pointed out on the video that show its fake, don't ask me about it, I wish it was real but yeah

I'm not sure how they convinced you that it is fake. I'm reading the comments in youtube who think that it is fake but their arguments are weak. Besides there is another video of the supposed crash site with this being in the stretcher. The wound in the leg is the same as this one and of course the alien looks like this one.

Originally posted by jpvskyfreak
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/cff29d8dd687.jpg[/atsimg]

Taken from the cockpit of a cessna 172 German pilot doing private flying near Big Bear Mountain in the USA.

I delcare that photo a fake. Every object in the photo, be it mountains or clouds at different ranges is in focus. Why then is the UFO blurry?

reply to post by wavemaker


Hey man trust me I want to believe in the video, I believe a UFO crashed for sure and they are trying to cover it up I just don't believe in the video that's the only thing.

Originally posted by pjslug

Originally posted by jpvskyfreak
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/cff29d8dd687.jpg[/atsimg]

Taken from the cockpit of a cessna 172 German pilot doing private flying near Big Bear Mountain in the USA.

I delcare that photo a fake. Every object in the photo, be it mountains or clouds at different ranges is in focus. Why then is the UFO blurry?

ARR well did you look at the mountains... blurry not sure if it is real or not, have to do some research.most are fakes

Think before you post hey the line in which the ufo is in... the whole panoramic is blurry.

Ocker

ocker

Ocker

Originally posted by OldDragger

This board, the entire internet is FULL OF hoax, fake, fraudulant UFO junk.
ATS is full of UFO hoaxes too.
Can any of you show ONE thing that isn't? That actually is evidence, even hinting of proof?
Seems a little odd that after all these years, all this "study' there is zilch, doesn't it.
AND! NOTICE I said proof, not "unexplained", as in, this photo is unexplained. Unexplained is only proof of it being unexplained!
Not unconfirmable "eyewitness" accounts.
You want to know why UFOlogy isn't a science? Because there isn't anything to study.
EVERY one of you that "believes' does so on faith, not reason or science.
So, I challenge you! Steer me to just ONE, just ONE bit of proof!

I like to believe in UFOs and alien stuff... And somewhere back of my mind always says there is something out there or going on that we don't know of... but where's the hard proof ?? I ask myself the same question...

Originally posted by sapien82
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why then are eyewtinesses in high crown court cases to be believed , for any other case , yet UFO cases eyewitnesses are deemed crack pots ?

simply because the subject matter pertains to the wild and fanciful

look at those thousands of eyewitnesses across the world , are they not to be believed as evidence of visitation ?

You may have heard this one -

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

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reply to post by ocker


I do think before I post, buddy. Why don't you remove your tin foil hat.