Nukes, Nukes and More Nukes!

Operation "Prime Starfish" blew up a 1.4 megaton thermonuclear bomb 250 above Johnson Atoll in 1962. The radiation even damaged low orbit communication satellites, and a large electromagnetic pulse blew out street lights and telephones in Hawaii. The USA did a lot of pretty crazy, high altitude tests over the Pacific.

en.wikipedia.org...

"Operation Crossroads" in 1946, at Bikini Atol in the Marshall Islands was just the start of 66 bombs detonated there. A great article in the LA Times described the series of tests and the sad after effects for the local native people.

articles.latimes.com...

"The United States arrived in force in February, 1944, when Marines waded ashore to begin beating the Japanese back across the Pacific. Three years later, the United States took formal charge of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands under U.N. auspices. Military control was so strict that non-Marshallese civilians were barred until the mid-1960s.

The reason was nuclear weapons. From 1946 until 1958, the United States detonated 66 atomic bombs at Bikini and Eniwetok atolls, the most massive atmospheric testing program in history.

Hundreds of islanders suffered severe burns, hair loss and vomiting. On Rongelap, which was covered by snowy clouds of radioactive coral dust after the 15-megaton "Bravo" hydrogen bomb blast on Bikini in 1954, doctors found that 96% of children under 10 suffered thyroid abnormalities. Most required surgery.

Long-Term Effects

But a recent government review of 23 medical studies indicates that devastating long-term effects are still showing up.

A 1986 study showed that 91% of 314 Marshallese tested had radiation-induced blood disorders. More than half those tested in another study had chromosome damage. Other researchers reported vastly increased rates of genital and thyroid cancer, leukemia and cataracts. One report found double the normal rates of stillborns and miscarriages, including strange, spineless fetuses."

The US Navy discovered that ships don't hold up to atomic bombs, and thousands of sailors were exposed to damaging radiation. Only in the 80's were the "nuclear veterans" deemed eligible for compensation by the US Congress.

The documentary film "Radio Bikini" gives a very interesting look at "Operation Crossroads" and its aftermath.

Originally posted by blackrabbit1

How does all this work with predictions of nuclear winters etc?

It shows it to be a load of hype.

Nuclear winter is just propaganda.

reply to post by KeepWatchingThem


The actual affects of that was done when the bombs went off. The mutations today are not from current contamination. Rather, its from the mutations caused by blasts of EM waves for 20 years. Yea, that would give a generation cancer. There is nothing there now in mass enough to cause it. This is literally the results of those bombs then, not anything now.

That's what happens. Nukes do not do much long term toxicity. They do a massive burst of toxic EM waves at once and the effects last till the generations poisoned are all dead.

Well,FYI to all you young people.

Nukes have been detonated in FIVE U.S. states.

New Mexico,Nevada,Alaska,Colorado and Mississippi.

Think about that now.

Well at the risk of sounding ignorant I am going to say no freaking way. This is a lame video game conception with no credentials on the HD website link.

To me it seems unreal that this much display or stupidity with such a deadly weapon is used/tested this much.

Why would they test something this much?

Would obscure media outlets cover this, since I dont expect a whole lot from the state run media machine.......wouldnt this make news?

Can I get some u2u on data regarding documented tests/detonations?

ConsciousTruth-

I lived in Pasadena, CA until I was ten or so. I remember one day a mushroom cloud that was kind of blown out a bit, but drifting over the San Gabriel mountains toward LA. My mom thought I was crazy until she read in the paper the next day they set off a test bomb in Nevada and had mis-gauged the winds and wind shift and it had blown back toward the LA area.

She didn't give me so much crap for "tall tales" after that! O read recently that every living human being (or dead I guess!) born between 1945 and 1965 or so when nuclear testing above ground was banned - cept the French kept up a while beyond then, has enough strontium 90 in their bones to date them to within 35 years of when the lived when archaeologists find them a few thousand years from now. If there are archaeologists around then.

No doubt our picture of the effects of all this is skewed. We were all human guinea pigs!

reply to post by ErEhWoN


tell that to the people near muroroa atol, the french cracked the mantel there and had to pump millions of tons on concrete over the sea floor, still didn't work

Originally posted by ConsciousTruth
Well at the risk of sounding ignorant I am going to say no freaking way. This is a lame video game conception with no credentials on the HD website link.

To me it seems unreal that this much display or stupidity with such a deadly weapon is used/tested this much.

Why would they test something this much?

Would obscure media outlets cover this, since I dont expect a whole lot from the state run media machine.......wouldnt this make news?

Can I get some u2u on data regarding documented tests/detonations?

ConsciousTruth-

If you are so quick to call this bunk then why don't you go do some research yourself instead of asking it to be hand fed to you.

I looked for under 5 minutes and found confirmation of nuclear tests around the world. It really is not hard to put in a little time to get the information you want.

I'll let you find it yourself so next time you don't have to take the risk of sounding ignorant and you can come into the conversation with the information you need to back up your skepticism.



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Wow, I had no idea the UK detonated so many of their bombs on US soil.

Just a though but, would about all the supposed entrance to the center of the earth. Did any one watch the ancient astronauts program? Or what about cthulhu and his castle? The Bloop? What mountain was hitler obsessed with? And as some one else pointed out about the earth quakes.

Those two nuclear explosions over Japan just reminded me who the real terrorists are. The American people are so quick to condemn Al Qaeda for 9/11 (as I do too), yet they fail to condemn their own government for an even bigger tragedy, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Really, our government has no right to call anyone a terrorist.

As far as the radiation from most nuclear blasts, it mostly dissipates after a couple months. Even still, I have no doubt that many of these "tests" have caused a great deal of cancer within the population.

Just to note: There were two "tests" that really caught my attention. One being from the UK in what looks like Nevada and another being American in what looks like South Eastern Lousisiana (near or on New Orleans). When was New Orleans nuked and why did we let the UK set one off on our homeland? Also, I wonder how many of those blue dots really belonged to Israel (besides all of them)?

--airspoon

Seriously Man when will we ever learn gosh hopefully gaya forgives her children. Seriously I want all the people responsible for so much detonation given death penalty by radiation....................

I am so pissed off right now seriously it just takes a couple of tests to prove it works not 1032, 712 etc crazy people.......

In the process destroying their own country and the most annoying thing is the brits tested them in Australia as well....

May all your greedy souls radiate to death in hell

Originally posted by beholdblight
Just a though but, would about all the supposed entrance to the center of the earth. Did any one watch the ancient astronauts program? Or what about cthulhu and his castle? The Bloop? What mountain was hitler obsessed with? And as some one else pointed out about the earth quakes.

Cthulhu what?!

reply to post by Sinter Klaas[/url]

I don't want to split hairs, but I think you'll find that radioactive dust particle for radioactive dust particle, an errupting volcano spews more radioactive material into the earths atmosphere than if all the nuclear weapons were detonated together.

Just look at the effect on Montsarat or the effects of Mt St Helens when she blew half her head off.

My aunty who lived through the war years, told me of really beautiful, wonderful sunsets after the two atomic bombs went off over Japan.

That was caused by the radioactive dust circumnavigating the earths upper atmosphere and guess what?

We're all alive and kicking. Think about it and stop all this paranoya!

Originally posted by Ashcool007

I am so pissed off right now seriously it just takes a couple of tests to prove it works not 1032, 712 etc crazy people.......

So you are a nuclear weapons technician or intimately acquainted with them and the testing requirements?

Because if not, then you are just guessing.

And they wonder why we barely have any atmopshere left

I tell you if someone from another planet monitored us in a time warp, and saw all those blips... they'd probably think we were sending subliminal messages with lights

Thanks TV Nation.

All i can say is WOW!

That is absolutely insane.

2053 nukes in just over 50 years! That averages out to nearly 40 nukes set off every single year since 1945.

Kind of puts it into perspective when they preach to turn out a light bulb or 'bath with a friend' to 'help save the planet' doesn't it.

Nutters...were being ruled by nutters.

Message to any friendly ET monitoring early 21st century Earth communications:

I hereby officially request asylum aboard one of your ships, or planetary bodies for my family and myself. The Earth elite are insane, and are intent on destroying our populations and the world we live on.
End message.

reply to post by fritz


Okey please link me to some proof that the dust from an eruption is just as radioactive as from an atomic bomb ?

The comparison is utter nonsense.

Edit :
A link to someone dying of radiation poisoning from an eruption would also help.

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While reading this thread about a nuke for sale on the black market - www.abovetopsecret.com...

I had to do a little reaserch myself to understand how real the threat was...
anyways, learned something today

"Due to Cs-137 mainly being a fission product, it did not occur in nature prior to extensive nuclear weapons testing. By using low-frequency gamma rays to detect the isotope, it is possible to ascertain whether the contents of a sealed container were made before or after the advent of nuclear weapons. This has been used by researchers to authenticate certain rare wines, most famously the Jefferson Bottles." - en.wikipedia.org...

So, Caesium-137 is like in everything

1032 test by America plus god knows how many they have stockpiled.

They then scream bloody murder about Iran have nuclear reactors for electricity generation.

America land of the hypocritc bastards. (government)

This also doesn't take into account all the depleted uranium bombs either.

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