War on Iran: What Year Is This?

reply to post by harryhaller


Yes...we do forget as a whole. It's a bit frustrating for me to notice yet not be able to quantify trends like the seeming rises in "al Qaeda" stories.

Here's an interesting set of stories on Hezbollah getting closer to the U.S....circa 2007 and 2010. This one really took me down the rabbit hole as it seemed to me that the last time I heard a big buzz about this it was in 2007, maybe 2008. Hezbollah is more easily linked to Iran.

2007 Hezbollah builds a Western base

2010 Congresswoman Raises Red Flag on Hezbollah-Cartel Nexus on U.S. Border

Joe Lieberman...

2007 Lieberman: Bomb Iran If It Doesn't Stop

2010 Lieberman: US Prepared to Strike Iran to Stop Nuclear Weapons

The IAEA

2010 Iran bans two UN nuclear inspectors for ‘false’ reports

2007 Iranian Defiance Of U.N. Detailed
2010 Iran Bans Two IAEA Inspectors, Citing False Reports

And yet...

2007 IAEA Says Iran Did Not Ban Inspectors

2007 U.S. Threatens Iran with Military Action; IAEA confirms the "peaceful nature of Iran's nuclear activities"

2010 Outgoing UN Nuclear Inspector Pushed Dubious Iran Nuclear Weapons Intel

to my knowledge, iran has the "bomb" since 2007, but is not quite capable to put a warhead on top of a rocket yet.

And as stupid as this seems in such a potentially explosive situation...the piece de resistance...

2007 Iranian police give barbers the chop to enforce Islamic dress code

2010 Iran's Hair Crackdown: Just One More Rule to Break

Now, the CBS 2010 story even calls it "new." And I myself commented in another thread that this "demonization" was a new twist. Well, imagine my surprise when I found the 2007 article.

Just weird.

reply to post by icepack


Do you have a source for this? Thanks.

no, but personal experience.
about three years ago, at night, i felt an explosion that made my windows shake.
it was a weird kind of sound, like something blew up deep under the earth surface. like a ballon suddenly was pumped up and then imploded.
then i switched to a news channel, a couple of minutes later they said an explosion occured in iran, near isfahan. now it got weird, because the explosion was strong even i live about 5000 kilometers away from iran, and after this message on the news channel, there was nothing. no more messages, no comment, just nothing. not on other news channels, nowhere i heard about that explosion again.
about 1 year later, i got internet, and researched that explosion, i found something about it, but they said it was an ammunition storage.
my opinion: no way ! you should have heard and felt that explosion, massive, under earth surface (like a plop), felt over 5000 kilometers away like a little earthquake.
later i researched, that some military experts said, that iran probably bought a couple of bombs from a state of the former sovit union.

reply to post by icepack

Ukraine and the missing nukes. Interesting experience, and yes that is a possibility. It's also a possibility that Saudi Arabia has nukes.

I guess what I don't understand is this:

Iran has signed the non-proliferation treaty (forgive the spelling)

The treaty allows for member nations to enrich uranium for power needs.

There is NO evidence that Iran has any desire to make nukes. In fact, Ahmadinejad has stated many times that there is NO USE at all for nukes.

Other nuclear-armed nations, including Israel, did not sign the NPT.

So why are we even concerned with Iran? I still want to see some evidence that they are making nukes for the sole purpose of war. If the government cannot show me the proof, I cannot support any action towards Iran. Otherwise, we are only pulling the "Iraq=WMD" charade again. Not this time. I want proof first.

Memories of Missing Nukes...

2010 Iran used China connection for nuke gear: report

2004 Ukrainian missiles 'gone missing'

Iran and China linked to Ukraine missiles
By Tom Warner in Kiev
Published: February 2 2005 22:01 | Last updated: February 2 2005 22:01

An investigation by the Ukrainian secret police has found that Iran and China bought long-range missiles designed to carry nuclear warheads from Ukraine, one of the country's politicians said on Wednesday.

Grigory Omelchenko, an ally of the country's new leadership and a former head of the anti-mafia committee in the Ukrainian parliament, claimed on Wednesday that Ukraine's SBU secret police had found that 12 Kh-55s were illegally exported in 1999-2001.

He said six of the air-to-ground cruise missiles were sold to Iran, and six to China. news.ft.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">Link

2007 Missing Nukes...U.S.

Let's watch for some stories about missing nukes in 2010. Haven't seen on yet...could happen.

reply to post by sheepslayer247


I think many people are asking the same questions. There's so much controversy surrounding the rumors that Iran wants or has or may have nuclear weapons and the IAEA.

Pakistan is also not signatory to the NPT, and worse, they have some real issues with being a hotbed of radical activity as well as some pretty serious security issues surrounding their nukes. (Link)

So here we see some concerns surrounding a nation that already has nukes while Iran, for some reason continues to be the number 1 target. For some reason...

India, by the way, is also not signatory to the NPT.



[edit on 7/9/2010 by ~Lucidity]

What year is this? Could be today, but it's 2007. Also note today's YouTube advertisement in the photo below the video. What a coincidence...

Interesting

2007 U.S. Finds Iran Halted Its Nuclear Arms Effort in 2003

Breaking today...

2010 Ahmadinejad Demands U.S. Stance on Israeli Arsenal

reply to post by ~Lucidity

i dont remember the name of the country of the former soviet union, but i am quite sure it didnt say ukraine in the article. i will try to find the website and post it here later.

reply to post by icepack

Okay, so it wasn't the link I posted above? I'd appreciate seeing yours...maybe there was more to it!

reply to post by ~Lucidity

i found it: www.freerepublic.com...

here the actual article: www.fas.org...

Another one for the lits...

2007 Defector spied on Iran for years

2007 Iranian defector may hold catalyst for war

2010 Iranian turned US spy: Tehran will attack Israel

These people really need a new playbook...they're getting so predictable...and they're so counting on us not to remember. Sadly, most are not remembering and will be lead down the path to supporting another unnecessary war of choice.

I'm still waiting for a story about missing nukes to hit...circa 2010.

It was only a matter of time until these two showed up again.

2007
Ahmadinejad Questions 9/11, Holocaust

2010
Ahmadinejad: 9/11 scenario dubious

Iranian website mocks 'Holocaust lie'

Patterns...patterns...patterns. Seeing them yet?

Same play book...2007...2010.

I'm still waiting for a story about missing nukes to hit...circa 2010. Should be any day now...

[edit on 8/7/2010 by ~Lucidity]

Okay...the year's a little off on this one for my theory, but...here you go. Another one.

2010
Iran digging graves for U.S. troops if they attack

2008
Military official: Iran digging 320,000 graves for invaders

[edit on 8/10/2010 by ~Lucidity]

reply to post by ~Lucidity


I don't think the years are off too much. Basically there is that year break at the end of Bush's reign of Terror, where Obama steps in and people think it will be different. Then the almighty attempt at 'diplomacy' failed so back to propaganda picking up right where they left off. The similarities are shocking.