Judge declares US gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

Originally posted by texastig
It is your duty as a Christian to tell her that she is sinning and to repent from her sins because by her decision she won't be going into Heaven.

What world are you from? On Earth Christianity is the religious cult following of "Jesus Christ" of the Bible. Where in he clearly states...

1. Judge not lest ye be judged.
2. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

"Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Meaning, those are who looked down upon by those claiming righteousness will be blessed. Because those persecuting them ignored all the teachings of Jesus.

Obviously you don't know what Christianity is. It is the following of Christ. His teachings, not the entire Bible.


Basically, stop pretending to know what is right. Because you are not worthy of judging. None of us are. The best you can do is accept and forgive if you disagree and find peace.

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Never once have I forced my "views" on a child. Though I have passed by, and saw much media coverage with children being brought to anti-gay rallies by their parents or their church and being taught hatred and bigotry.

Originally posted by 6minutes212
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Because I own my body, no one else, I decide what to do with it.

What happens when you get HPV or other STD's and then my tax dollars have to pay for your perverted sexual behavior?

Originally posted by pajoly
It is raining acid across half the U.S. and someone actually is so bigoted and scared of gay people being happy that this takes priority?

If the majority sees this a problem than the best thing that can happen is for the U.S. to be wiped from the map because our gene pool is obviously then compromised.

It's not raining acid. The majority of Americans do not want gay marriage and that is evidenced by 31 states having marriage between one man and one woman in their constitutions.
I don't want the gay stuff forced on my kids or other kids. Kids grow up the best in a marriage between a man and woman and that's a fact.

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"There sure is logical and valid arguments because it will destroy our society. When morals are low destruction comes."

I wasn't assuming to know your religion, I was just saying that if you want to speak of low morals, why don''t you start with the catholic church before you attack gay people, I think you'd find more instances of corruption and immorality there then within the LGBT community.

Originally posted by texastig

Originally posted by 6minutes212
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Because I own my body, no one else, I decide what to do with it.

What happens when you get HPV or other STD's and then my tax dollars have to pay for your perverted sexual behavior?

LOL @ THAT! Because "ONLY" homosexuals get HPV and STDs xD. How ignorant can you be.

Originally posted by texastig

Originally posted by 6minutes212
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Because I own my body, no one else, I decide what to do with it.

What happens when you get HPV or other STD's and then my tax dollars have to pay for your perverted sexual behavior?

I'll have you know sir have never had an STD in my life. Also, I'm a taxpayer as well and I carry health insurance, your tax dollars aren't going to me, you can rest well.

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Again, site sources for these facts please. I can tell you, I grew up in a straight home, was taught religion, all the while my alcoholic pilled out parents beat each other and dropped me off at places to go party. So yeah, thank GOD they weren't gay, otherwise my childhood may have been tainted.

Originally posted by 6minutes212
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Please site sources for your "facts". Really, you are just frightened because you see your point of view becoming the view of the minority and not the majority. But by all means, if you can show me, unbiased, scientific, not religious studies that prove your point of view I'd be more than happy to read them and debate.

That is hogwash. Over 31 states have banned gay marriage and there's more to come. That is the majority. I don't want gays forcing stuff on kids which they have done and are still trying to do.
See this webpage for a few stats:
townhall.com...

Everytime one of these threads comes up it confuses me as to some of the responses. How on earth does not agreeing with something automatically make you a hate filled person. It seems only those for gay marriage are allowed an opinion. If you disagree not mater the reason, it's because you are hate filled? What gives, I don't agree with anyone eating brocolli however that doesn't mean I hate all vegetables, nor all vegetarians, I just don't like brocolli. Hate doesn't factor into it. Maybe rethinking how the opposition feels might make these tired debates more productive. Of course some people hate homosexuals, for whatever reason......however, not all do. And lumping all those opposed into the same category is doing the same thing you accuse others of.

I really don't care what people rub their junk up against...it's their junk, not mine. I don't mind who raises a child...a same sex home can provide stability and love just as easily as a hetero home can.

I have no problem with two people having the same government rights as anyone else can have...I DO have a problem with the semantics though.

Call it civil union, call it joining, call it superglued, just don't call it marriage. Why am I so hung up on a word you ask? My fear is based on my observations of the radical homosexual agenda and our litigious society (Born and raised in the Bay Area).

I predict that if and when a blanket law is in place that forces all states to recognize same-sex marriage the radicals in the movement will not be satisfied, and turn their attention to the next level of perceived discrimination: The churches.

The next obvious step to forced acceptance would be to begin suing churches that refused to wed gay couples. The first targets would be the large organized religions...Catholicism, Mormonism, Judaeism, etc. After the big ones fall, the little (poorer) churches would cave.

This step would lead to one of two futures: Churches being forced to compromise values and teachings in order to comply, thereby disenfranchising their congregations, OR churches no longer providing marriage services to anyone, thereby taking away from many a sacred and important ritual that they hold dear.

Marriage to many religious folks isn't just vows and love and benefits...To those, marriage is a sacred contract with God and spouse, something that cannot truly be done by Rev. Joe Feelgood down at the lake.

Undermining faith-based marriage and disenfranchising religious communities would certainly be the proverbial straw that fractures conventional religion in America. I know that many on ATS wouldn't mind that scenario, but have you thought about how all that down home religion helps you out?
The lady at the DMV, who went the extra mile to get your problem solved...Or the couple across the street that watches out for your kids when they play out front? What about that guy who pulled over and stopped when your car was broke down in the rain? Many people learn to serve others through conventional religion.


That is why I am against same-sex marriage.

Originally posted by I AM LEGION
I read in other thread on ATS some Christian guy was trying to use slippery slope to suppress supporters. He said "marriage for animals is next!" Guess what, an animal can't sign a piece of paper, and they lack our level of intelligence. The law should state that marriage is a union between two consenting adult humans.

I'd like to go MUCH farther. I don't want federal or state sanctioned marriage at all. I don't think it's the government's business if I want to marry another man, or 5 other women, or a pet fish. It's my damn business.

The sooner we can repeal marriage licenses that faster this will all be a non-issue.

edit to add: Marriage is an out dated term, and people should be able to have whatever relationships they want. And I say get rid of the tax benefits (sometimes anti-benefits) for 'married' couples as well. In fact, get rid of all income tax whatsoever. damn it I hate being controlled and told what is and isn't proper to society (within reason)....

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Originally posted by mryanbrown
What world are you from? On Earth Christianity is the religious cult following of "Jesus Christ" of the Bible. Where in he clearly states...
1. Judge not lest ye be judged.
2. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

"Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Meaning, those are who looked down upon by those claiming righteousness will be blessed. Because those persecuting them ignored all the teachings of Jesus.

What world are you from? Jesus said that marriage is between a man and woman and it's been that way since the beginning.
Christianity is not a cult. The Bible states to judge with righteous judgment. The Bible states that those who live in sexual perversion will not go to Heaven. Concerning the "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake". He talking about those who follow Him that are persecuted.

Originally posted by mryanbrown
Obviously you don't know what Christianity is. It is the following of Christ. His teachings, not the entire Bible.

I've been a Christian for over 20 years. I think I know what Christianity is. Jesus forgave people but told them to go and sin no more.

Originally posted by mryanbrown
Basically, stop pretending to know what is right. Because you are not worthy of judging. None of us are. The best you can do is accept and forgive if you disagree and find peace.

I don't have to pretend to know what is right. The Bible makes it clear in what is right and wrong. I am worthy to tell people if they don't change then they won't go to Heaven. That's the Gospel telling people who are sinners that they can have a new life in Christ.

Originally posted by texastig

Babies thrive better with a mom and dad and that is a fact.

Prove it, I want to see numbers.

Did you ever stop to think that one of us may consider what you do in the bedroom to be perverted and disgusting?

Why is it that breeding more inept hate filled children that will make no beneficial impact on the world is what legitimizes your relationships?

Originally posted by 6minutes212
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"There sure is logical and valid arguments because it will destroy our society. When morals are low destruction comes."

I wasn't assuming to know your religion, I was just saying that if you want to speak of low morals, why don''t you start with the catholic church before you attack gay people, I think you'd find more instances of corruption and immorality there then within the LGBT community.

I don't attack. I share. And I share God's word with everyone that has low morals.

ATS has the most hypocrytical posters on earth!
You caterwaul about rights, the evil government and the Constitution constantly, YET YOU CANNOT GRASP THAT CIVIL RIGHTS ARE NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST!
It doesn't matter what the freaking majority thinks! Majority rule is not part of the constitution!!! Get a basic education.
I have yet to hear ANYTHING CLOSE to a compelling reason to declare gay marriage illegal. All I hear is your same stupid religious arguments, FORCING your religious beliefs into law.
You people are simply prejuduced, irrational and ignorant.

Originally posted by mryanbrown

Originally posted by texastig

Originally posted by 6minutes212
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Because I own my body, no one else, I decide what to do with it.

What happens when you get HPV or other STD's and then my tax dollars have to pay for your perverted sexual behavior?

LOL @ THAT! Because "ONLY" homosexuals get HPV and STDs xD. How ignorant can you be.

That's all people with low morals. But the LBGT have higher rates than others and that's a fact.

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Originally posted by 6minutes212

Originally posted by texastig

Originally posted by 6minutes212
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Because I own my body, no one else, I decide what to do with it.

What happens when you get HPV or other STD's and then my tax dollars have to pay for your perverted sexual behavior?

I'll have you know sir have never had an STD in my life. Also, I'm a taxpayer as well and I carry health insurance, your tax dollars aren't going to me, you can rest well.

Wait for Obama care to kick in.

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"I believe that adopting same-sex marriage would be likely to improve the well-being of gay and lesbian households and their children."

That's from the wikipedia on the man that the article you sited was about. This is all nonsense, we all know our views differ, but there is no need for calling gay people immoral, or treating it like a disease that the community is set out to spread. It's just ridiculous.

Originally posted by blamethegreys
Undermining faith-based marriage and disenfranchising religious communities would certainly be the proverbial straw that fractures conventional religion in America.

Religious institutions have already undermined and disenfranchised themselves already. The moment they registered as a 501(c)3 they sacrificed their religious Ecclesiastical law for Federal regulations governing approved religious organizations. It also takes their ability to provide "sanctuary" away like Catholic churches used to be able to provide as they are now under Federal jurisdiction.

Heterosexuals undermined faith-based marriage the moment they applied for a marriage license. Taking the union away from God, and are instead requesting permission from the government.

You want to talk about religion. You are following beast law above the law of God. More so you are following the Old Covenant law of God rather than the New Covenant law of Jesus.

Learn your own religion before you attempt to transpose it upon another.