New Discovery Brings AIDS Breakthrough

Originally posted by Parallex

Jeremiah who? Louis what?

Parallex.

Thank you for correctly spelling the name of the person you do not know about.

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sry double post ..second one today, wonder whats going on?mods please remove..

thanks





~meathead


[edit on 8-7-2010 by Mike Stivic]

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Indeed.

I once wrote up a kind of bill that would create a socialist medical system that promoted capitalism.

I can make a forum post out of it, you know, people who like it can sign it and what not.

Essentially, it reverses the effect. The hospital gets paid a set beneficiary from the government. Something reasonable based on an equation for the average patients monthly. If the hospital can lower this average, an inverse relationship gives them a bonus. If the average rises, they get penalties. The local hosptials that heal the most people get paid the most, the ones that don't get paid less.

obviously there is a minimum wage of some sort here that would have to be just bellow the comfort level of doctors. That way they have to perform good to get paid.

Ultimately the hospitals that are the most innovative, creative, and best at healing people get the most amount of money. The other ones have to work harder. If one hospital does so poorly that it simply cannot compete, I suppose the government has to destroy the hospital, analyze what is wrong, then rebuild it.

The only bureaucratic elements would be that and a yearly inspection to confirm quality so that the doc ain't buying boats or something.

Minimum bureaucracy. Single payer system. You pay the fund that the gov finances.

We would save billions, maybe even trillions. Check out US debt clock website.

If you're interested, I might post a thread about it.

Ultimately that fixes the primary flaw in our medical system without government intervention.


It's socialist, but it promotes capitalism. How about that?

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This is NOTHING new... There's has and there is many cures for AIDS... Treatments are suppressed, not given.. like someone said ... There's no profit when there's a cure which is a known fact...

There was a news tv report in the 90's that this hospital found a way to clean the blood by boiling it and putting back into the body and would cure the victim but the government revoked their hospital license... and there has been many more people who found cures with herbs and devices.. one of them was Dr. Ruth Drown who found ways to cure every disease out without depending on drugs of any kind and she mysteriously died plus all her papers and prototypes were never found but as many of us know how the government murder people who bring out information that will help. They steal and withhold all these advances and breakthroughs and let them out when the time is right when they can profit off of it....

The world would be a better place if the truth and technology isnt hidden from the masses and only known to those in power so they can stay in power

remember people..... The more control they have over things, the more power they have to control us and the more profit for corps and corrupted governments.

by the way.... if you look up Ozone Therapy is a treatment with a lot of healing properties just like Hemp Oil but stronger and I personally know someone who was behind that stuff and that person partner got murdered for being involved in that treatment. believe it or not, doesnt matter to me..

[edit on 8-7-2010 by MilzGatez]

I wonder how long it will be before these people who made the discovery are found dead some where.

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very well said and optimistic reply to my comment, just replying to make sure you know i fully agree

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my first and last response here to you out of respect for the OP..
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The OP made no referance to gays or the church in his OP or his thread title, i fail to understand how this thread is hypocritical.

you brought to this thread an anomosity for the op about his religious beliefs and tried to inject it maliciously into this thread..

your insulting reply and clumsy backpeddling of your original statement speaks volumes of your maturity and character.
feel free to U2U me if you are inclined too do so, but let us not derail this thread any further as is your obvious intent.
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again my apologies OP.

respectfully yours,

~meathead

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Thank you for your reply to the subject at hand mate.

As far as the troll, he has pandered baselessly about religion and homosexuals in a lot threads.

This news research has proven that treatment for all diseases might just lie within our own body.







[edit on 8-7-2010 by prionace glauca]

Originally posted by tommyb0y
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

Oh really!

Well i don't think the government in our country like spending money on expensive treatments and would much rather have a cure to free up money and resources for wars and fighting over oil.

I don't understand this "no profit in a cure" argument, its nonsense when you try and apply it to countries which run a government health system paid for by the government.

Just another sheep dim wit copying BS from other people.

Anyway great news! Just a shame the doom monger-ors can't even leave this thread alone. ZZZ



[edit on 8-7-2010 by tommyb0y]

Tommy, I am afraid you have only made yourself to look like a sheep. You are missing a very large part of the picture as to why people are concerned that cures are suppressed by corporations. Your lack of knowledge in this area is so large and evident that I could not possibly explain it well enough in a single post so that you would get the bigger picture.

This is not intended as an insult it is simply letting you know that your post is very weakly supported and the implications you make show your naivety on this matter. I am hopefully going to show you how to deny ignorance.

This might help. Pretend you own a pond and you have it fenced in. Your pond is the only water available and you sell it to people for a dollar per bottle.

Now you have a choice, keep selling it a bottle at a time or just open the gate and let everyone just drink from your pond for free.

Now think for a moment about what a corporation is. It is an entity designed and structured to make profit and nothing more. It is ran on rules created in bored rooms and not by daily decisions made by leaders. Most of those rules ignore the health of humanity and favor profiteering.

Our government does not control the corporations it's the other way around right now. So even if you are right that our government wants cures their bosses, "entities" only are interested in profit. So they keep seli
ling the water by the bottle rather than build a gate to the pond.

Now granted this is not always the case but it is becomming the norm now days. Buisness rules are made long ago for many corporations and followed without thought to how that rule applies to the modern era.

This ignorance and blind following of rules allows CEO's and executives thide behind bad policies made by others who preceded them.

When they get caught like BP has now the old buisness rules get changed. It takes a disaster however to awaken those drunk on profits to get them to effect change.

Hope that helps

i dont see this working; how can you train the body to hunt something that becomes part of the body.

Originally posted by Ausar
i dont see this working; how can you train the body to hunt something that becomes part of the body.

The virus never really becomes a part of the body but only masks itself enough where the body can not mount a full onslaught of an antibody attack. Our body has the antibodies against the virus, but this research now is able to direct those antibodies toward the affected cells that have the virus in them.

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I agree there are a lot of corporations that put profits first, just look at BP.

This research was funded by our governments and educational institutions. The intellectual rights of this research are shared by our government along with these institutions.

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Well you have to look at it like this too..

Either "Joe" taxpayer pays the taxes or the big drug companies pay the taxes after "joe" gives them all his money for HIV drugs.

-ChriS

Well I for one am looking forward to the medical journals detailing this breakthrough.

I dont buy into the pharmo conspiracies (dont hate me ... i have my reasons) but i wont deny that they are run by greedy profiteering people. It is a business after all. However if those people were caught out actually suppressing "cures" can you imagine the outrage and the scandal? They would be lynched.

Also this isnt a cure as such for AIDS (if i understood the article correctly). It would only be very effective in the early stages to combat the HIV virus and if its a vaccine to prevent the virus from taking over in the first place. The pharmo companies will still be able to profiteer from people with AIDS, and people who distrust all vaccines.

The serious money in pharmo companies comes from (this is speculation btw) the simple things... pain relief, reduction of inflammation, beta blockers and the millions of other drugs that are used to reduce dangerous symptoms caused by a plethora of diseases and lifestyle induced issues (like stress, obesity etc)

the reason all the anti AIDS drugs are so expensive is not because theyre stringing the patients along... its because there are "relatively" few people with the disease when compared to the amount of people taking asprin, codine and all the other day to day drugs and suppliments.

As long as were still popping pills every now and again for our own convinience they'll be more than happy (well until people realise that its not worth them paying for brand names and settle for the cheap brands)

~TR~

[i dont get why im getting so many red squigglies... isnt this how you spell suppliments and convinience? [yes im aware i ignore capitalising I and using the ']]

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Exactly as the article states, this is not a cure for AIDS but a way for the body to make HIV ineffective in duplicating and thus eliminating the progress onto full blown AIDS.