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Who's afraid of the Jordanian atom?

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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:24 AM
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Who's afraid of the Jordanian atom?


www.haaretz.com

Jordan has a number of good reasons to be angry with Israel. The most recent is the stymieing of Jordan's wish to exploit the uranium discovered in its territory.

Since the beginning of the year, Jordan has been negotiating with the United States for backing to produce nuclear fuel from the uranium and use it for the future operation of nuclear power plants.
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:24 AM
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Interesting.

I didn't know this.

Yes, I realize the source is Ha'aretz, but that only makes this all the more interesting to me.

I welcome your thoughts on this one, as I've only just begun to digest this.

A side note here is that Jordan's Queen Noor is spearheading the Countdown to Zero initiative.

www.haaretz.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:40 AM
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They'll be considered a 'threat' to isreal
America will defend
Jordan and Iran will team up
Jordan, Iran, Russia, China will blow the hell out of Isreal, the US and the UK.
But not before the US, the UK and Isreal have blown the hell out of Jordan, Iran, Russia, and China.

But not before ive moved far far away

BTW. I live hapily ever after



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:44 AM
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Man, this just gets more confusing. Is all this even real? Can you tell I'm still thinking?



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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your forgetting the missile defense systems we have


i don't think so



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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I thought France already secured the contract to built the first of many reactors in Jordan, and South Korea is touted to get the second contract... there is also a lot of uranium which the Western nations have been pestering Jordan to allow THEM to reclaim (France secured one contract early this year)

english.aljazeera.net...


Jordanian officials have said that Areva, which started mining in central Jordan in 2008, could extract around 130,000 tonnes of uranium from the kingdom's 1.2 billion tonnes of phosphate reserves and build a nuclear reactor.


BTW, the reactor being built by France will be in Aquaba, within a few miles of Israel.. until now I've not heard that Israel had any issues with the building program in Jordan.

On other issues in the area and for the first time, the RAF are training in the Jordanian dessert in preparation for deployment to Afghanistan, while working on improving inter-operability with the Jordanian air-force.

www.mod.uk...

It is worth remembering that King Abdullah's mother was British, he trained and served in British army and is even now, Colonel in Chief and Patron of the British Light Dragoons, that places him as patron of a regiment that has served during his patronage in both in Iraq and Afghanistan.

That may help to place where Jordanian Gov really sit within the Western world.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:57 AM
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Thanks for that background. Is this article accurate as far as what "Washington" has told them?

Isn't the UK pulling at least some troops out of Afghanistan? Didn't I just see something about that?

Jordanian Nuclear Program meeting at PM, caution of media coverage

Jordan's Nuclear Ambitions Pose Quandary for the U.S.

Israel 'blocks' Jordan nuclear bid, King Abdullah says

[edit on 7/7/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:28 AM
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The UK is moving troops to the South part of Helmand (there is both talk of leaving the country in 5 years, and also being the last nation in the country, confusing or what
)

I guess what I was trying to say in relation to this article, is that it is not Russian or Chinese that are exploiting the Jordanian Uranium, but rather US, French, South Koreans... The Royal Jordanian naval base in Aquaba is a friendly military port for the Royal Navy and US Navy... it is also now a training ground for our troops..

IMHO opinion that places Jordan squarely in our camp and until recently the Nuclear building program caused Israel no issues, so I can only assume they are trying to block Western companies exploiting the uranium as some kind of leverage in other areas.

If there was any deep seated anti-western feelings, I am sure the King would have many issues remaining colonel and patron of the light dragoons, or allowing Western forces to operate freely within his Kingdom, or dock in the ports.

Here is a Harrez article on the future of Jordan's nuclear ambitions from April this year, that has had zero comments, which is mostly a good way to gauge the depth of feeling a subject brings..

www.haaretz.com...



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Thanks for that background. Is this article accurate as far as what "Washington" has told them?

Isn't the UK pulling at least some troops out of Afghanistan? Didn't I just see something about that?

Jordanian Nuclear Program meeting at PM, caution of media coverage

Jordan's Nuclear Ambitions Pose Quandary for the U.S.

Israel 'blocks' Jordan nuclear bid, King Abdullah says

[edit on 7/7/2010 by ~Lucidity]





The UK isnt pulling anyone out
The world of news is really misleading, We have no clue whats ACTUALLY going on, Nor will we ever find out what these top elites are saying to eachother. Its another world up there at the top of the pyramid



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:38 AM
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Thanks, guys. I went back and read it.

Block Western companies exploiting the uranium as some kind of leverage in other areas...you're assuming Israel is doing this? That makes sense.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Thanks, guys. I went back and read it.

Block Western companies exploiting the uranium as some kind of leverage in other areas...you're assuming Israel is doing this? That makes sense.


My primary thoughts are that as I get the feeling the Israeli Government is on the back foot right now and I assume they would need any and all leverage they could muster, and hurting Western companies in the pocket would be a good place to start.

But secondary it could be US pressure to delay said projects to ensure the Jordanians are in the Western camp...

Edit to add:

The deal with the US seemed to be going very well, the contracts appeared to fall into Western hands - France/UK/Australia signed deals on the mining, France on the initial reactor, and South Korea for their tech, with an open door too supply other reactors.. South Korea is desperate to supply reactors to the world.

So any major hold up in the US might cause contracts to fall through and go to China/Russia, who both want in on the deals. Hence my uncertainly as to the true reason why the delay has happened,

and my speculation that it might suddenly be due to pressure from Israel as the Jordanians want to process their own fuel rather than continue to be dependent on external nations to supply it's energy needs. That one element is enough to give Israel cause to say they are concerned..

[edit on 7/7/10 by thoughtsfull]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 08:19 AM
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I can see how what you're thinking sort of correlates to this, at least up to the point where he says. "...another Iran."



...Israel simply fears that the Jordanian nuclear fuel could leak to other, less friendly countries.

King Abdullah was furious about the Israeli position and in his talks with U.S. President Barack Obama he made it clear that his country has the full right to produce nuclear fuel and that it plans to stand up for this right.

However, at the end of last week, Washington informed Jordan that it would not agree to the production of the fuel within its borders and that it would instead have to acquire nuclear fuel on the world market.

From Jordan's point of view, this is not merely a diplomatic slap in the face - suddenly it is being looked at like another Iran - but also an economic blow.


[edit on 7/7/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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