Why is the year infinite in the date?

Originally posted by Erad3

Originally posted by Trudge
reply to post by Erad3

 

your question is the same question as to how the universe could always be. We are at 0, past and present are 1 and -1 that is infinite. We will always be at 0 just as everything else in our universe is at 0 as well.

I have to speculate the induction to new numbers into the date.

The child's mind is weak like that of a untrained all black pit bull.

Where did I state the universe could always be?

I speculate that Before Common Era couldn't start.
This is foolish for you to believe that Before Common Era started!

Each day we wake up its a new beginning, therefore we can represent each new day as 0, or if you want to get exact by human standards today is 07-14-2010. Tomorrow can't be today so a new number must be made which I made it 1, or human standards it will be 07-15-2010. Also, to represent yesterday which can't be today or tomorrow, I used a new number -1, or human standards it was 07-13-2010.

The reason we use 2010 for example is to represent our own timescale for human accomplishments, not the universe. Your 2010656497411648941461564646456456456456456456456456456456456456415153151564648442130230004694845640 is true if you perceive that the first 4 numbers 2010, never changes. But at the same time you are asking a question as to why a date is infinite? Your answer is because the universe is infinite. How did we get to 2010? Well from 0 we added 1 to each year to get to 2010. If you keep adding 1 to each year it will be infinite will it not? What about before 0? Well we had BC, but I look at it as -1 instead. How far back can we go? Going back is infinite just like going forward but we all start at the same place, 0.

If you can't grasp that concept then I don't know what to say. Stay in school maybe?

[edit on 14-7-2010 by Trudge]

Isn't the OP just questioning what it would be like to have a period in time that is several billion billion (and so on) years from now and how that would make the date look when you had to write a check or get a date marked on your driver's license (assuming that these things still exist and we have evolved into amorphous blobs that simply float about the aether).

@ OP... I think the solution will be to simply restart our count of years from a new era. So, taking the year "1AD" as the starting point, we're now up to 2010. In 10,000 years we may decide to start again, to get back to a few digits. We may devise an 'era marker which simple clicks over every 10,000 years. Year 1.Era1, Year 1.Era2 and so on.

I would hope that humanity could solve the problem of writing a gazillion digits just to represent the year...

Originally posted by Trudge

Originally posted by Erad3

Originally posted by Trudge
reply to post by Erad3

 

your question is the same question as to how the universe could always be. We are at 0, past and present are 1 and -1 that is infinite. We will always be at 0 just as everything else in our universe is at 0 as well.

I have to speculate the induction to new numbers into the date.

The child's mind is weak like that of a untrained all black pit bull.

Where did I state the universe could always be?

I speculate that Before Common Era couldn't start.
This is foolish for you to believe that Before Common Era started!

Each day we wake up its a new beginning, therefore we can represent each new day as 0, or if you want to get exact by human standards today is 07-14-2010. Tomorrow can't be today so a new number must be made which I made it 1, or human standards it will be 07-15-2010. Also, to represent yesterday which can't be today or tomorrow, I used a new number -1, or human standards it was 07-13-2010.

The reason we use 2010 for example is to represent our own timescale for human accomplishments, not the universe. Your 2010656497411648941461564646456456456456456456456456456456456456415153151564648442130230004694845640 is true if you perceive that the first 4 numbers 2010, never changes. But at the same time you are asking a question as to why a date is infinite? Your answer is because the universe is infinite. How did we get to 2010? Well from 0 we added 1 to each year to get to 2010. If you keep adding 1 to each year it will be infinite will it not? What about before 0? Well we had BC, but I look at it as -1 instead. How far back can we go? Going back is infinite just like going forward but we all start at the same place, 0.

If you can't grasp that concept then I don't know what to say. Stay in school maybe?

[edit on 14-7-2010 by Trudge]

You state the universe in infinite and with no proof of the claim.

If Anno Domini is able to begin then Before Common Era starts with the date being infinite.
Before Common Era doesn't start with the date being infinite.
Therefore, Anno Domini isn’t able to begin.

[edit on 14-7-2010 by Erad3]

[edit on 14-7-2010 by Erad3]

[edit on 14-7-2010 by Erad3]

Originally posted by SugarCube
Isn't the OP just questioning what it would be like to have a period in time that is several billion billion (and so on) years from now and how that would make the date look when you had to write a check or get a date marked on your driver's license (assuming that these things still exist and we have evolved into amorphous blobs that simply float about the aether).

@ OP... I think the solution will be to simply restart our count of years from a new era. So, taking the year "1AD" as the starting point, we're now up to 2010. In 10,000 years we may decide to start again, to get back to a few digits. We may devise an 'era marker which simple clicks over every 10,000 years. Year 1.Era1, Year 1.Era2 and so on.

I would hope that humanity could solve the problem of writing a gazillion digits just to represent the year...

If Anno Domini is able to begin then Before Common Era starts with the date being infinite.
Before Common Era doesn't start with the date being infinite.
Therefore, Anno Domini isn’t able to begin.

How is Before Common Era begginging?

If you think Anno Domini started then there is a serious problem in how you approach the date.
It's ridiculous to believe that the year isn't infinite.

reply to post by Erad3


Errr.... Erad, you're talking in circles. The dates measured in BC are "negative" they show a number of years prior to a point in time (i.e. the start of AD time)

2010BCE-------1000BCE-------1-------1000AD-------2010AD

The year "1" is just an arbitrary point in infinite time centred about the alleged birth of Christ.

Yes, but if it t'was brillig, and the slithy toves began at inception
what then?

The point of beginning is why you gyre and gimble in the wabe.

Not because of infinity, but because infinity has no beginning
as you will see

reply to post by rival


Yoda?

OK... a one-line post since this is just filler in reality...

ive seen this type of post before

you wouldnt happen to be a troll, would you?

reply to post by SugarCube


Look at the BCE to understand what is happening for AD to start.

This is very funny for someone not to understand this.

This is impossible for the date to get to AD.

The society in charge starts the year at the specific time.

Originally posted by rival
Yes, but if it t'was brillig, and the slithy toves began at inception
what then?

The point of beginning is why you gyre and gimble in the wabe.

Not because of infinity, but because infinity has no beginning
as you will see

I have to quote this post.

Tell me how BCE is starting!
This is humiliating if your accepting the current date!

Isn't the BCE year infinite at the begging?

Not only create new numbers to throw in the year but for your personal perception.

For me personally i dont view time the same as you do. I dont see time as anything but another word we but to describe something we think we understand.
Time isn't a dimension as its just an explanation ot determine the distance (Without using distance terms to describe the occurrence of an event)
I guess if your perspective of time is infinite, it will be.. where as i look at time as nothing more than a label for another bubble in a glass of water

For me personally i dont view time the same as you do. I dont see time as anything but another word we but to describe something we think we understand.
Time isn't a dimension as its just an explanation ot determine the distance (Without using distance terms to describe the occurrence of an event)
I guess if your perspective of time is infinite, it will be.. where as i look at time as nothing more than a label for another bubble in a glass of water

reply to post by srbouska


This is a great post of induction.

This is a hilarious post from you.

How do you understand daily life without having a date?

Originally posted by Erad3
reply to post by srbouska

 

How do you understand daily life without having a date?

Dont be so timid and scared! This is only life, take it with a grain of salt(but not too much for it might kill you) time is a concept that only humans calculate record and rely on with precise measurement. Too bad the whole world uses a sysem based on the alleged birth and crucifiction.

As for me, my time began when I was born twenty five years(rotations around the sun) ago.

I don't care for anyone elses age or the age of the human being. sorry to burst your bubble but since you don't know the age of the universe(by cycles of any type) then your age old question of what time is and when did it start will not be answered on this planet(due to this not being the oldest planet,star,rock,ice crystal,or anything else to get the info from)

some insight might be found by taking the cellestial calander and to rotate it backwards from now and do it for 11 billion years then multiply it with your scientific data that shows the formation of the planet...... or you can just stop breathe and realize you are alive and THATS all that matters!

Originally posted by Erad3
reply to post by srbouska

 

How do you understand daily life without having a date?

Dont be so timid and scared! This is only life, take it with a grain of salt(but not too much for it might kill you) time is a concept that only humans calculate record and rely on with precise measurement. Too bad the whole world uses a sysem based on the alleged birth and crucifiction.

As for me, my time began when I was born twenty five years(rotations around the sun) ago.

I don't care for anyone elses age or the age of the human being. sorry to burst your bubble but since you don't know the age of the universe(by cycles of any type) then your age old question of what time is and when did it start will not be answered on this planet(due to this not being the oldest planet,star,rock,ice crystal,or anything else to get the info from)

some insight might be found by taking the cellestial calander and to rotate it backwards from now and do it for 11 billion years then multiply it with your scientific data that shows the formation of the planet...... or you can just stop breathe and realize you are alive and THATS all that matters!

this has got to be one of the most confusing threads i have ever read..

are you saying that you seem to think that the current calander we go by today was introduced in 1 ad? if so that is incorrect

the calander we have now was introduced in the 1500's named after the pope

sometime in the future a bunch of people will decide to change the calander once again probably, and we will be going by start dates

the year is not infinite, i guess it could be, but it will likely change in a few 100 or 1000 years, who knows maybe tomorrow



*edit to fix spelling*

[edit on 15-7-2010 by Kr0nZ]

If anyone cares my above post was a "re-mix" of "Jabberwocky", which
is what the OP's post amounts to. The reason I care is because I spent
30 minutes on the OP's puzzle to find out his post/opinion/agenda keeps
waffling between the literal and the philosophical, for some unknown
reasons that suit him.

And the puzzle isn't a puzzle at all.

I'll ask him again to quit posing questions and state his opinion, but I doubt
it will come to much...

I just sat here and read this whole thread, and I have to agree that it is very confusing. OP, not to be rude, but the manner in which you are conveying thoughts, as well as your prevalent use of "If - Then" statements make it hard to understand you, and at one point I even thought you might be trolling.

Many human societies have existed, and most had their own way of telling time with calendars and the like. If you mean "time" as in the age of our universe, the current accepted theory states that it was ~13.75 billion years ago. So the current date, if you counted up from that point, would be something like Friday, July 16th, 13750008344.

But who knows if that's when "time" actually started? Did anything exist before our universe was created? These questions are very difficult to answer because no one was there.

Maybe time is infinite. But I don't know what you mean by a year being infinite. A year is just a unit of measurement, which equals ~365 days. As I stated before, accepted theory suggests that the age of the universe is ~13.75 billion years, which is ~5018750000000 days. If the definition of a year was 6000000000000 days, then we'd still be in year 1. It's in all how you interpret and measure things.

OP is believed to be the shooter in today's assassination attempt.

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