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Area 51 Installation

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posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 06:16 AM
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AREA 51 INSTALLATION GROOM LAKE, NEVADA Every weekday morning, at least 500 people arrive at the guarded terminal owned by EG&G on the northwest side of McCarran Airport in Las Vegas, Nevada. Here they board one of a small fleet of unmarked Boeing 737-200s. Using three digit numbers prefixed by the word "Janet" as their callsigns, the 737s fly off North every half hour. Their destination is Groom Lake, also known as Area 51, an installation so secret, its existence is denied by the government agencies and contractors that have connections there. By late 1955, the facility had been completed for flight testing of Lockheed's U-2 spyplane. Since that time, Groom Lake has undergone vast expansion, catering to the needs of testing the most advanced aircraft projects in the world. Forty-four years after it was created, Groom Lake has hosted flight testing of the aforementioned Lockheed U-2, the SR-71 Blackbird, the F-117 stealth fighter, Northrop's B-2 stealth bomber, the mysterious Aurora Project, and possibly even alien spacecraft. Tony LeVier, Lockheed's test pilot assigned to test-fly the U-2 spyplane, claims the credit for recognizing Groom Dry Lake as a suitable test site. The CIA gave U-2 designer Kelly Johnson the task of choosing and building a secure test site. In March 1955, Johnson sent LeVier and Skunk Works foreman Dorsey Kammerer to visit potential test sites in the deserts of southern California, Nevada, and Arizona. After two weeks, LeVier presented Johnson with his impressions, and Johnson chose Groom Lake. The Groom Lake facility has been known by many names since its construction. Kelly Johnson named the place "Paradise Ranch". When his flight test team arrived in July 1955, they simply called it "The Ranch". In fact, the secret base was formally named Watertown Strip, after the town in upstate New York where CIA director Allen Dulles was born. In June 1958, it was officially designated Area 51 by the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). The adjacent AEC proving grounds became known as the Nevada Test Site and divided into such numbered areas. The base is now known worldwide as "Area 51" (thanks to numerous mentions in Hollywood shows and movies), though officially this designation was dropped in the 1970s. By 1970, the USAF Systems Command took over the operation of Groom Lake. At this time, the U-2 and A-12/SR-71 spyplanes had both been tested and in service on reconnaissance missions. Unmanned high-speed drones were also being tested, including the Model 147 Lightning Bug, Model 154 Firefly, and D-21 Tagboard. In 1967, the United States acquired its first Soviet MiG-21 and the US efforts to acquire Soviet weapons technology expanded. In 1975, the Red Flag series of realistic air warfare exercises started at Nellis AFB, using large portions of the ranges surrounding Groom Lake. The box of airspace surrounding Groom Lake was strictly off-limits to Red Flag aircrews. It became known as "Red Square" at this time, but later acquired the semi-official title of "Dreamland" as a series of new exotic aerospace projects evolved in the late 1970s. These included the Have Blue and Tacit Blue stealth technology demonstrators. The testing of these aircraft brought extreme security measures at Groom Lake. The Groom Lake base was considerably expanded in the 1980s. The main runway (14/32) was extended to the south, and then a huge northernly extension built out onto Groom Dry Lake, today having a length of 27,000 feet. A smaller parallel runway was built in the early 1990s. Semi-recessed "scoot and hide" shelters were built on the main taxiway so that secret aircraft could be more easily hidden from spying satellites overhead. New radars, satellite telemetry and other communications facilities were installed, and extra warehouse and assembly areas constructed. The base housing area was completely rebuilt, accomodating up to 2,000 people, and an extensive recreational facility provided. Today, Groom Lake seems to be administered by Detachment 3 of the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards AFB. [lrec] Perimeter securtiy was also increased. Until 1984, it was easy to view the base from Bald Mountain and other hills in the Groom Range to the north of the lakebed. The USAF then extended the Nellis range military reservation to cut off the view...or so they thought! Two hillsides to the south of the Groom Range still offered a view of the base from 12 miles away. White Sides Peak and Freedom Ridge, these points were annexed by authorities in 1995. Clearly marked but not actually fenced, the entire boundary of the base is patrolled by an anonymous security force equipped with high-tech surveillance gear. Remote electronic sensors detect movement along known dirt tracks and roads leading towards the installation. It has been thought for quite a while now that the surveillance equipment is so advanced that certain sensory equipment has the ability to smell a person coming near the boundary, and distinguish him/her from other animals nearby. The ground patrols, often called "Cammo Dudes", are assisted by FLIR-equipped Sikorsky MH-60G Pave Hawk helicopters. Since the Tacit Blue flights ended in 1985, only two further black projects which were presumably test-flown from the secret base, have since been officially acknowledged. These were both stealth air-launched missiles: the Lockheed Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM), cancelled in 1992, and the Northrop Tri-Service Stand-Off Attack Missile, cancelled in 1994. So what activities are taking place at Groom Lake? In 1989, a man named Bob Lazar appeared on a Las Vegas television station and claimed that he had been employed at Area 51 for the purpose of "reverse engineering" alien flying saucers. He alledged that nine of these disc-shaped craft were flown from a highly secure facility named "S-4" at Papoose Lake, 10 miles southwest of Groom Lake. Lazar's story has been widely criticized and a more credible link to disc-shaped objects is that they are testbeds for anti-gravity propulsion systems, being tested at Groom Lake. Such technology would represent an unprecedented leap worthy of the most extreme secrecy. So would an operational hypersonic spyplane with another new propulsion system, such as Pulse Detonation Wave Engines or hydrogen-powered scramjets. There is much circumstantial evidence to link Groom Lake with (at the very least) experimental high-Mach vehicles. It has even been claimed that a new mother/daughter combination like the A-12/D-21 has been flown, known as the Super Valkyrie. Evidence from base-watchers and elsewhere also suggests other top-secret, Special Accesss Programs that have been conducted at Groom Lake in recent years: High Altitude Stealth Reconnaissance: Large subsonic long-endurance vehicle jointly developed by Lockheed and Boeing to replace the SR-71's ability to overfly denied territory at will. Based on the Skunk Works failed bid for the Advanced Tactical Bomber (ATB) - the B-2, it was cancelled in 1992 after at least $300 million had been spent, and replaced by the Tier 3 Minus UAV (Lockheed's Darkstar). Covert Assault Transport: Probably a delta configuration with advanced V/STOL capabilities but with very low noise as well as radar signature. Probably cancelled in 1993 in favor of further Bell/Boeing V-22 Osprey development. Stealth Helicopter: Different designs with emphasis on low blade and transmission noise, also exploring new technology to reduce blade and efflux signature. (Sikorsky's new attack helicopter, the successor to the Apache - the Comanche, incorporates stealth technology, but this is being tested elsewhere.) Cloaking Technology: Cloaking technology in the form of electrochromatic panels mounted to aircraft has been revealed as being tested at the Area 51 installation. Recently, a new theory which is of a very good basis has risen which gives an idea as to the glowing objects seen above the Groom Lake installation. Researcher Tom Mahood has mentioned his theory that the objects moving at incredible speeds with sudden directional changes, emitting an unusual glow, could in fact be the result of experimental proton beam systems.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 12:25 PM
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No offence, but, Why did you post this? This is basically a cut-and-paste from the main ATS site.

I Don't Understand the point of this post! Help me with this?


Tim
ATS Director of Counter-Ignorance



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 12:29 PM
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I know why, there has been an increase in discussion of Area 51 and it's projects lately. Basically he posted it for convinience. Thanks Skeptic



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 07:22 PM
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area 51 only has and tests the aurora but its mostly a distraction from S4 the secret base on the side of a mountain where alien crafts are being tested and are being built. Havent u seen the bob lazer interview.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 11:33 PM
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ghost, this shall answer your question:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 25 2004 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
area 51 only has and tests the aurora but its mostly a distraction from S4 the secret base on the side of a mountain where alien crafts are being tested and are being built. Havent u seen the bob lazer interview.


There are so many bases in the mountins, the story of one more should not be a surprize.
Also, No Offense, but Bob Lazar is Full of #! First of all it's a matter of public record that the guy is a COVICTED pimp. Do you really think a man with a felony conviction had a security clearance? Second, Lazar is well known as a flashy UFO buff,who drives a red Corvette with the licence plate "MJ-12". People who are chosen to work at Area 51 or other secret bases, are told to keep a low profile and avoid drawing attention to themselves. Lazar is known as a publicity hound.

Tim
ATS Director of Counter-Ignorance

[edit on 25-6-2004 by ghost]



posted on Sep, 11 2004 @ 01:10 PM
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I think area 51 is somewhere where the military make planes and new weopons ext... If there was somewhere with aliens it would ne well hidden.. somewhere like area 19, the one with the 34.5 kilovolt powerline right in the middle.



posted on Sep, 11 2004 @ 03:52 PM
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So.. whats the reason of this topic?



posted on Sep, 11 2004 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by ghost
No Offense, but Bob Lazar is Full of #! First of all it's a matter of public record that the guy is a COVICTED pimp. Do you really think a man with a felony conviction had a security clearance?
[edit on 25-6-2004 by ghost]


No offense taken Ghost, but I would like to mention that the felony conviction came after he worked at S-4. And IMHO the conviction was a setup, I was there and watched the whole thing go down.



posted on Sep, 21 2004 @ 01:55 PM
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The question I have is "why did the government deny the existence of the base for so long?" I think it was pretty foolish for the government to do so when almost everyone knew where it was. By denying its existense that just raised more speculation about what really went on at the base.



posted on Sep, 21 2004 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by mrmulder
The question I have is "why did the government deny the existence of the base for so long?" I think it was pretty foolish for the government to do so when almost everyone knew where it was. By denying its existense that just raised more speculation about what really went on at the base.



I don't know for sure but when the whole Dick Dimatto thing came down in the early 90's everything changed. Congress actually thought they had control over the purse strings. What a joke that was. The problem was there were way too many projects and way too much happening to have been funded through the black budget. No it had to be explained where the money DID come from.

I understand that Dimatto still blames me for outing him. I forget how I did that.



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 10:29 AM
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What's with the complete lack of information on Area 19? Every website I've visited, there is the usual information consisting of merely:

Power line terminating in the middle of nowhere
Cheshire Airstrip
Press tours weren't allowed there
Airspace above the place is flyable
There was supposedly a lot of digging going on here
The area is designated as a nuclear testing ground but there have been few or no tests performed there.

What's with the total lack of additional or new information?

Zip



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Zipdot
What's with the complete lack of information on Area 19? Every website I've visited, there is the usual information consisting of merely:

Power line terminating in the middle of nowhere
Cheshire Airstrip
Press tours weren't allowed there
Airspace above the place is flyable
There was supposedly a lot of digging going on here
The area is designated as a nuclear testing ground but there have been few or no tests performed there.

What's with the total lack of additional or new information?

Zip




I have misplaced my site map. Where is area 19?



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 12:30 PM
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Question:

Are projects at Groom Lake Developed and tested by military personell only? Or are outside contractors part of the facility?

If outside contractors are involved, would they have to be 'sequestered' from the population, due to security reasons? Would they be able to come and go as they please? Or quit their job, if they desired to?

Thanks



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 12:36 PM
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Question:

Are projects at Groom Lake Developed and tested by military personell only? Or are outside contractors part of the facility?


Combination of both, mostly government contractors, such as Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, etc.


If outside contractors are involved, would they have to be 'sequestered' from the population, due to security reasons? Would they be able to come and go as they please? Or quit their job, if they desired to?


Some are, some aren't, depends on clearance level. Some reside on the base in the residential area, others are brought in via JANET or bus. Those residing off the base can come and go as they please (just as much as you or I can from a job, but of course, they have to wait for the bus or plane, hehe...) They can quit, but they've all signed Secrecy agreements, including the spouses in some cases, according to their jobs. Breaking such an agreement can lead to stiff fines, jail, and or even the death penalty (if treason is invoked).


[edit on 22-9-2004 by Gazrok]



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 02:15 PM
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Regarding my previous post the correct spelling and title of that gentleman is:

Dick D'Amato
National Security Specialist for Senator Robert Byrd

He is referenced in this article and a goggle search
has many, many pages on him.

www.v-j-enterprises.com...



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 03:44 PM
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I am absolutely POSITIVELY SURE that they have some type of nuclear weapons either in the process of being built or..... already there i mean who knows



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 01:18 PM
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JESUS CHRIST!!!!!! theres a lil thing called a publicity stunt....though i wouldnt be surprised if he was tellin the truth



posted on Dec, 29 2004 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by mrmulder
The question I have is "why did the government deny the existence of the base for so long?" I think it was pretty foolish for the government to do so when almost everyone knew where it was. By denying its existense that just raised more speculation about what really went on at the base.

To keep the public eye on the base, so that the real secret base is kept secure and off focus. Personally I think that Area 51 now is a place only to keep UFO people focused on one place.



posted on Dec, 30 2004 @ 03:21 AM
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lazer is a fake i watched a documentry on him on tv and they prover all his pics to be fakes or being a picture that can be reproucded easly just by know a little bit about cameras



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