Radiation Emergency - Prepare Yourselves For Gulf Oil Syndrome

reply to post by xstealth


I remember reading about that.
It was discussed at length here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

hahahahahahaha sorry! But "radio active oil"??? Ok, so, where is all of this "radiation' in all of the things this oil has been used for before all of this???.....hmmm...radioactive oil........superpowers???....OIL MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, i don't buy it...and as far as the "tar balls" on Galveston Beach and Crystal Beach.....been going there MY WHOLE LIFE.....seen tar balls since I was a kid, gotten tar on my feet, and so have many other people who are older than me....tar balls are nothing new to Crystal Beach....and obviously, those of you who are fueling this, who have NEVER been to Galveston OR Crystal Beach.....would probably never have seen the OIL RIGS right off the shore of the beach, I mean you look out and there they are. And also...Crystal Beach and Galveston aren't exactly Pensacola Beach, our sand has NEVER been white, water has NEVER been clear blue, due to the current of the Mississippi River flowing into the gulf. So, stop with all of the "tar balls from Deepwater Horizon rig" crap, if they are related to ANY oil rigs, its probably the ones RIGHT OFF THE COAST LINE....drilling for THE SAME OIL as the Deepwater Horizon....as I said before, gullible, paranoid people believe ANYTHING the MSM puts out, seriously if you have NEVER been down to our beach, and NEVER laid eyes on it, DON'T sit there and try to tell people who live and have lived in this area their whole lives whats going on down here. ....beware of radio active oil!!!!!!!!!!!!

reply to post by Alxandro


Yes I think it is the blood of the earth as I stated here:

"Posted by gardCanada, on May 22, 2010 at 19:51 GMT

Again, I have to voice my concern over this event, no, I take that back- Global disaster. This is future of our world... we have killed the planet.

I feel that BP has pierced the earth's carotid artery, she is bleeding to death. It has not been stopped. What if the abiotic oil's reason is to keep the earth rotation in check- a kind of fluid similar to a torque convertor in the automatic transmission."

But I forgot to mention:

Keep up the great work!
Cheers,

this whole thing is about enough to make me sick...literally...as if it wasn't bad enough now we have to worry about fish and all these species being infected with radioactivity...and the problem keeps getting worse...is that why mechanics who change oil every day get cancer and die...because of the oil....wow...this is too much to think about...

has anyone talked about the temperature effects that could be caused by this 'oil spill', corexit, and the side effects?

like a massive death of sea life surely will affect carbon dioxide & oxygen levels, likewise couldn't things like oil becoming part of the natural rain cycle affect us through things like humidity? if humidity is air thick with water, then what happens when theres air thick with water/oil/other cr*p?

also, my cousin is an environmental scientist, he was telling me about how even his peers were discussing an ice age that was due, and the controversies surrounding climate change. So I believe the ice age 'theory' is 'fact', I also attribute climate change to be largely a natural process.

Now surely with all the different effects this spill is having on such a broad scope of things on this planet, and with such a broad scope of nasties involved, i.e. various chemicals, etc...
surely there would be some consequences in the realms of temperature...

for e.g. where I live it rains in july & is cold but not at the coldest part of winter yet, but this year it is really oddly cold, no rain & completely random warm & sunny days thrown in the mix, and despite it being sunny & reletively warm outside today, our region had a record breaking cold snap this week just gone in which the average temp was -5 degrees celcius for 4-5 days straight, a complete unknown for this time of year here....i have wondered if the recently unusual weather is at all linked to the spill...

-B.M

[edit on 7/7/10 by B.Morrison]

Apart from my first post, I guess I'm still completely baffled as to why radioactivity should imply "blood" of anything..

Is blood normally radioactive in nature? Not really..

If drilling for oil was like tapping a vein of blood then we wouldn't have an energy crisis on our hands because we'd have a never-ending supply of it. Oil deposits would always be self-replrenishing, like human blood is. The demand would always be met by the never-ending supply.

How do oil deposits reflect the complexity of the human circulatory system whatsoever? One deposit might eventually "connect" to another nearby but at that point it would be a single deposit instead of two. But the same rule of thumb would still apply, which would be "Once the deposit is depleted its gone forever". It takes so long to form naturally that the only way for oil to reappear is in the form of new deposits..

Also, I understand that radioactivity DOES exist in nature but geologically, on our planet at least, it doesn't exist in a form that can necessarily be harmful to humans. Radioactive material within rock/mineral deposits have to be refined to be of any biological danger to human beings. There are plenty other aspects of crude oil that make it toxic to biological organisms, none of them having anything to do with radiation.

Plus, if the all our oil were radioactive then pretty much everything made with said oil would be irradiated too. Everything right down to chapstick, autmotive oil, gasoline, plastics, and everything else we make from fossil fuels.. (which is alot) And we know this isn't the case.

I'm also confused why Oil is being likened to "Gulf War Syndrome" in the title of the thread. Although we don't know all the real causes of the "illness", we do know that alot went on that could potentially cause soldiers coming back from Gulf War 1 to have odd illnesses and side-effects.

For starters, neither government nor the military ever conduct long-term testing of new vaccines. Even I recieved all 6 Anthrax shots knowing full-well that the government had no idea the long-term effects of it. Second, we know that depleted uranium could potentially be harmful to humans but only if inhaled or otherwise directly ingested..

Although we are only one of a couple countries that still use depleted uranium as armor piercing slugs in some military ammunition we know that depleted uranium is generally safe to handle and extremely unlikely to ever be ingested on the battlefield.. (I worked in Air Force munitions systems for 6 years). Third, alot of soldiers could have breathed in toxic fumes either directly from the pooling oil from the Iraqi oil fields or the smoke the burning oil gave off. IMO, the real "Gulf War Syndrome" was caused by a combination of different factors, none of which have anything to do with radioactive oil..

Hell, if Oil were really that radioactive then most countries in the middle east would have a thorough arsenal of nuclear weapons by now. The refinement process for fissile material would be alot easier too and could be easily fronted as an oil processing operation. This just isn't what we're seeing in the real world.

I've made my views on depleted uranium, in particular, very clear in past threads and although I don't consider myself an expert on radioactivity in general I did work with munitions on almost a daily basis for the entirety of my military career and I did handle weapons containing radioactive material.

We know that radiation exists in nature because we can refine it into fissile material but only in an artificially refined form is it any real danger to human beings. Most , if not all, of the radioactive material that exists naturally on our our planet in the form of rock and mineral deposits has such a low level of radiation that you could eat the stuff and not be affected whatsoever, not that you'd want to. I know this mainly because radiation was an aspect of my job but also because I've read alot about it while researching depleted uranium, in particular, for ATS discussions.

-ChriS

Originally posted by hawaiinguy12
Can we get a REAL news source please? I cant take some random website ive never heard of and believe it. Thats like taking everything on Alex Jones website and believing it without " looking at a real news source "

do you mean fox or cnn ? joke lol, or maybe bbc... or some other form of MSM. WAKE UP... their all owned/controled by the same small group of men. they all take their news from transcripts prepared by reauters. you have been programmed. brainwashing in progress.

reply to post by Alxandro

Gulf "War" Syndrome was caused by the vaccines given to our troops and chem weapons dumped on the sand; which they marched through. The coast is toast in any event.

reply to post by M0bstar
So now tar balls are normal and we should lift our nut sack and let em float by? You make Texas proud.

reply to post by BlasteR


Hey Blaster,

What I think is that the oil is synomymous to blood. Without it, we are dead; so far we can't live without oil too. Maybe oil is abiotic- the oil companies wouldn't tell us...

Cheers!

reply to post by Alxandro


Your thread is based on fiction,
Please show me a link from a credible source which proves crude oil is radioactive. You cannot. It isn't.
Scaremongering does not help anyone.
Crude oil has carcinogenic properties when inhaled by humans but to compare its effects to those of depleted uranium is stupid and ignorant.

PEACE,
RK

Makes m wonder what the oil companies do with this Uranium they find -

"75 percent of the United States national uranium reserve is on Indian land under the control of the major oil companies. Twelve oil companies own 54 percent of the uranium mines; five oil companies own 62 percent of the uranium mills."

nativenewsonline.org...

This article is called "Brief History of Uranium Mining in South Dakota " and was written in 1999.

I am sure today the number of oil companies who own uranium mines is much higher.

I am sure uranium mining is always a secondary goal to finding oil.

This seeks to bolster The Powers That Be's reasons for keeping the oil cartels in business.

Shocking... now we know.

Also of interest is:

"The Black Hills is one of those areas of America that have been designated by the National Academy of Sciences as a National Sacrifice Area, and thus slated by the government and energy corporations for resource exploitation. There are over five thousand uranium leases held in the Black Hills region by such companies as Tennessee Valley Authority, Union Carbide, Chevron Resources, Anaconda (ARCO), the British-Canadian Rio Algom, Wyoming Mineral (Westinghouse), Kerr-McGee, and others. Union Carbide holds a lease in Craven Canyon, site of sacred Lakota rock writings. Only the companies know the extent and the value of the uranium holdings, but they are estimated to be in the hundreds of billions of dollars, covering hundreds of thousands of acres of the Black Hills.

Notice ARCO.. That's BP !

Phosphates, seawater, uraniferous coal ash, and some type of oil shales are examples of unconventional uranium resources.

en.wikipedia.org...
Rigel Kent - I think I just did that.




[edit on 7-7-2010 by JohnPhoenix]

Glad I found this thread. Thanks OP. :/

A deeply disturbing subject.

Too bad this Youtube video was removed. At least 1,550 viewers found it first...

"RED ALERT!! - Oil Spill RADIOACTIVE!!!"

webcache.googleusercontent.com...MEsHanSryMJ:www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DJqQPNxqbNxo+www.youtube.com... xo&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Toni



[edit on 7-7-2010 by Antoniastar]

reply to post by Alxandro


Funny... a number of days ago I started a thread titled " Is Oil REALLY a "fossil Fuel?"

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I firmly believe, as all evidence suggest, that oil is in fact a natural element of sorts, something created not only on Earth but throughout the universe where ever Hydrogen and Carbon are in abundance (which is to say, the 1st and 6th most common elements, so pretty much everywhere) ..

If we go by such hypotheses such as mine and a number of much more qualified scientist, it is natural to assume that under the conditions it is created that Oil would naturally be radioactive.. especially the further down you go. As a hypothesis I would say that oil forms deep below the Earths Surface, and it takes thousands if not millions of Years for pressure to force reserves toward the surface, not unlike the effects of a typical volcano? Thus drilling further and further down you would come into contact with purer oil or "light sweet crude" such as the Deep Horizon, which was just that, light sweet crude.

If I may suggest, if it was not already suggested, anyone on ATS near the gulf buy a Geiger-Müller counter and go to the beaches and use it.. They average around $300-400ish or so, but I know local colleges and community colleges have them in their geology departments. I got to test one when I was in college and we found a piece of Uranium in a plastic box hidden in the back of an old closet, from possibly the 1950's.. so at any rate, even if the oil isn't radioactive, the Geiger-Müller counter's are still fun.

reply to post by icannvrthnkofaname


Your video depicts "Ragworms" commonly dug up on European beaches and used for seafishing.... where do you get the name "Methane worms" from?

PEACE,
RK

reply to post by guavas


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and Domestic ........... So Help Me God................ Savvy?

From my research we know two things.

1) Many oil companies own uranium mines.

2) Oil shale can contain uranium.

The ops whole post is based on this statement:

Oil reserves that do not produce large amounts of methane also lack uranium and thorium. The presence of methane is proportional to the presence of uranium and thorium, both radioactive elements. Yes, you read that correctly! The more methane that is present reflects the amount of Uranium and Thorium in the oil reserve.

We do not know if there is any oil shale present in the seabed where the oil well leak is.

We do not know that the above statement is true as I cannot find anything that says there is a correlation between Methane and Uranium and Thorium Decay.

I cannot find anything that says there is a correlation between oil reserves, methane and Uranium and Thorium.

It seems to me such strong statements would be commonplace and would be supported if true all over the internet and data on oil reserves. I simply cannot find this data.

If you can find the above data to support this please post it.. anyone.

[edit on 7-7-2010 by JohnPhoenix]

reply to post by B.Morrison


There was a thread a while back about weather changing in the mid-west. If the oil changes the evaporation levels, then the midwest will suffer drought. If it traps unusual amounts of heat, then we may see some killer 'canes here in the Gulf. I don't know it would affect your area as it is so far from us.

reply to post by shapeshiftress


Interesting you should mention this...

OSHA Report Released on BP Response Workers - Injuries & Illnesses - April 22 2010 thru July 4 2010