New Sign Of NIBIRU

reply to post by jazz10

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Originally posted by dragnet53
reply to post by stereologist

 

Hey, Isn't Eris supposedly visible by now?

Eris is never "visible" in the sense of being visible by naked eye. It's currently just past aphelion, as far from the inner solar system as it gets on its 557 year orbit

Isn't it in the southern hemisphere?

No. In fact it's right near the celestial equator, visible from both hemispheres.

I always thought that Eris or Sedna was a part of Nibiru's moons.

That would be impossible since they orbit the sun, not an unseen non-existent body.

Strangely enough one of those has the same elliptical orbit that Nibiru has. I believe it is Eris.

Eris has a 557 year orbit, and only gets as close to the sun as pluto. The only thing it shares in common with the 3600 year Nibiru orbit is that it's elliptical and highly inclined.

But hey if there was a real photo taken you would push it off as something like what you stated.

A real photo could be confirmed. A real photo would not be something you could only see with the camera but by eye as well. You would be able to derive real coordinates from it and determine a real position for Nibiru. None of these things describe the photos presented so far. On the rare occasion where a photo comes with coordinates, those coordinates turn out to be a lie.

[edit on 7-7-2010 by ngchunter]

reply to post by Xcalibur254


Hi Xcalibur

I feel skepticism should be encouraged, though I feel it should be approached with an open mind without overly pre-conceived notions and heavy bias of 'what is' and 'what isn't' if that makes sense.

I can only encourage people to seek (if they are ready) across many differing fields and sources taking in what resonates with them and using their own discernment. I would never expect anybody to take my word on things, nor anybody elses alone as 'truth' (including from so called experts who are often serving establishment agendas). Developing heightened awareness is an ongoing process and will be developed by one's own inspiration/will to seek and/or simply granted when the time is deemed right for the soul to 'evolve' in their perceptions via 'external' sources. If you disagree with every word I have just written, there is nothing wrong with that. Our path is our own. Nobody can 'dictate' it to us, though there may be attempts to do so by negative influences. I hope I haven't gone too off topic.

Look people, it's really quite simple. If anyone here has any knowledge of where Nibiru is supposed to be, just tell us. If you don't know the exact co-ordinates tell us approximately where it should be in the sky. Then we can all grab our binoculars, run outside and see for ourselves. Boom. End of debate. There is no government on Earth that can prevent people from observing the skies themselves. For those who claim to know but refuse to say: what are you hiding? How dare you accuse others of deception if you are guarding your own secrets?

reply to post by ngchunter


If I didn't receive ongoing movie like visions later followed by an astrophycisist disclosure, then believe me I would be a lot more open to the claims and evidence suggesting the 'Nibiru' meteor, pole shift scenario won't or can't happen. I would rather that be the case from a personal perspective.

I just cannot deny what I have received, especially considering I 'knew' ever since I was a child that 'large scale' earth changing events were going to happen in my lifetime. I didn't realise or understand why I possessed such uneasy feelings until all these personal revelations flooded to me in adulthood that have been greatly supporting that these 'grand events' are set to occur.

Some things are not easily measured or explainable or 'evidenced', especially concepts relating to the spiritual/metaphysical. I am also well aware people are frustrated by years of deceptions and understand why they may be cynical/aggressive to these topics. I can only say I have felt greatly guided to do what I am doing specifically at this time, because a catalyst occurred when I had decided to keep quiet regarding all these things. That catalyst was the final scientific confirmation which I did not seek at all and actually felt like the final 'prod' I needed to start making disclosures. I am not alone in such preparation efforts. I simply feel people have the right to such knowledge, even if it is deemed difficult or 'fear mongering' initially. I strongly believe many fears can be overcome with understanding of the 'bigger picture'. And that is the primary intention of poleshift2011, for those that asked about the message.


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reply to post by benedict9


You make claims about this astrophysicist who has disclosed information to you, yet you provide nothing to corroborate this claim. You have to realize that people are going to ask for more. If he's willing to disclose information to you, why not the rest of the world? Or at the very least come onto ATS and discuss the topic with like minded individuals? We at least need some credentials and something more than just you claiming that a scientist has given you some information we need details so we can cross-reference and check other sources. That's how science works.

reply to post by DJW001


I was only provided general information via my source. Enough to confirm my visions had a legitimate basis, though not technical aspects of the passage. If I possessed technical info, I would not hesitate to be more transparent.

This link may possibly assist your enquiries.
yowusa.com...

Originally posted by benedict9
reply to post by ngchunter

 

If I didn't receive ongoing movie like visions later followed by an astrophycisist disclosure,

WHO "disclosed" Nibiru to you? If you can't even give a name then it's just a claim, not proof.

then believe me I would be a lot more open to the claims and evidence suggesting the 'Nibiru' meteor, pole shift scenario won't or can't happen.

You should be open to all evidence. I am. Instead you're intentionally ignoring anything you disagree with.

Some things are not easily measured or explainable or 'evidenced', especially concepts relating to the spiritual/metaphysical.

This is a specific claim about an astronomical object, not a spiritual or metaphysical one. Either it exists and there is evidence for it or it does not exist and the evidence indicates it does not.

That catalyst was the final scientific confirmation which I did not seek at all and actually felt like the final 'prod' I needed to start making disclosures.

Then show us the scientific confirmation.

Originally posted by benedict9
reply to post by DJW001

 

I was only provided general information via my source. Enough to confirm my visions had a legitimate basis, though not technical aspects of the passage. If I possessed technical info, I would not hesitate to be more transparent.

This link may possibly assist your enquiries.
yowusa.com...

Did your "astrophysicist" come from this link? I especially love this part:

50 degrees latitude south: It stays above the horizon all night.

40 degrees latitude south: It sets just past midnight and reappears during dawn.

That's physically impossible. Quite funny though.

OMG, you guys are on this thread 24/7, please go and take a nap.

Seems as though the real, true-blue ''experts'' in this area have completely taken over any thread that discusses the possibility of an incoming celestial body/Nibiru/Wormwood/ect in the very near future.

These ''experts'' must be here to give us all a good, hard ''slap'' of reality in the face, because after all, the one's who do believe in this Nibiru possibility are the dis-info agent ''bad guys'' according to these ''experts'', right?

I'm willing to wager that most, if not all of you ''experts'' have zero beliefs or interest in the paranormal, afterlife, unexplained phenomena, government cover-up's, religions, secret societies, the list goes on and on.

Nothing wrong with having no beliefs or interest in these areas, but again - **why** are you here then? And I'm saying this generally, not aimed to anybody specifically.

To the people that are giving Benedict9 a hard time in this thread - get over yourselves. He isn't preaching to anybody, nor is he trying to convince anybody of anything. I think he made that crystal clear time and time again. It's his message that you all have a hard time getting a grip on, and that's understandable - but why resort to backing him into a corner when he hasn't even come across in a remotely ''threatening'' or insulting manner?

Not everybody believes that absolutely nothing is going to happen in the near future, and it seems to me like some people involved in this forum are dead-set on trying to convince these same people that ''nothing will happen''.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers.

Originally posted by truthbringsfreedom777
To the people that are giving Benedict9 a hard time in this thread - get over yourselves.

He or she claims an astrophysicist "disclosed" knowledge of Nibiru. Why is it too much to ask for some kind of proof that this claim is true? It is being claimed that those who disbelieve in Nibiru are using "false evidence" to debunk it. I stand by the evidence I've presented and all I'm asking for is evidence that proves I'm using "false" evidence. Why is it too much to ask for proof of claims being made?

I admit I didn't read all of the posts .. so someone may have posted this previously.

Orbits of the planets around the sun can be described as dropping a pebble in a pond . take a snapshot of that. One deep circle with waves separated and continuously less depth. Now replace the sun with the "waves" with planetary orbits. This is the solar system.

Now another huge object injects itself in this lovely pattern of ripples on the surface of water that represents a planetary orbits around the sun. The ripples that the extra stone's presence creates have only been documented in ancient past that we have yet to decipher ...according to currently accepted news sources.

Any planet sized object coming into proximity of other planets will have their gravitational fields affected. The effect we witness is the increase of planetary stresses.. volcanoes erupting, earthquakes , tsunamis.

So ya an object can cause what we have been experiencing.. planet x ..reported in 1983 by mainstream media then dropped.

They didn't have the control of the media then as they do now days.
No conspiracy here folks. Just plain old cover-up of the truth.

reply to post by ngchunter


I am either telling you the truth of the 'second-sun' fly-by or I am not. That is for you and others to further investigate if you have the genuine desire and inclination to do so. With all due respect, feel free to discredit both myself and my claims. Everything I have been willing to share is already within my site.

If I am wrong and the object discovered and covered up in 1983 is a near earth collision object and am preparing for that condition alone, Never the less the human created problems in the fold are reason enough to prepare for a disaster.
I used to live in Southern California...home town actually..earthquakes were just exciting to me untill I had children.
Some kind of metamorphosis occurs when you have kids. One moment you have no fear, no regrets, no worries. You , male or female, create a life and now the things that you wouldn't bat and eye at are dangerous.

My youngest daughter is 20 now. I worry and get pissed about politics because I don't want my legacy of my country to be her means of slavery.

peace

reply to post by awakentired

Any planet sized object (and not just "any" planet sized object, "Nibiru" is supposed to be several times more massive than Jupiter) passing through the solar system would not disrupt the "gravitational fields" of the other planets unless it was quite close to them. But what it would do is hopelessly disrupt the orbits of those planets. This is why we know that no massive objects have passed through the solar in billions of years and that no massive objects are moving into the solar system now. The orbits of the planets, and Earth in particular, are very stable and orderly. The planets are right where they are supposed to be.


[edit on 7/7/2010 by Phage]

Originally posted by ngchunter

Originally posted by truthbringsfreedom777
To the people that are giving Benedict9 a hard time in this thread - get over yourselves.

He or she claims an astrophysicist "disclosed" knowledge of Nibiru. Why is it too much to ask for some kind of proof that this claim is true? It is being claimed that those who disbelieve in Nibiru are using "false evidence" to debunk it. I stand by the evidence I've presented and all I'm asking for is evidence that proves I'm using "false" evidence. Why is it too much to ask for proof of claims being made?

How about just Benedict9 finding us ONE astrophysicist that can explain how anything, anything at all will travel 500 light years distance in a couple of years. That is really all I want to know at this point. Just one.

reply to post by virgom129


Who said Nibiru is going to crash against the Earth?. This is not going to happen. Nibiru is going to go across the Solar System between Jupiter and Uranus, somewhere by the outer planets. The moons of Nibiru, probably three are the ones that are going to affect the inner planets.

reply to post by Phage

And where is the book on gravitation? or anti-gravity. If gravity is understood by modern science then ant-gravity is easy. You put it in a box like it is well understood.

Like the origins of man from apes.

I'm sorry sir. I don't believe your opinion. Oops it is a theory isn't it...same thing.

reply to post by Phage


Mr phage what is your explanation for the planet x that was reported when I was 23? Idiots in the mainstream.. people in the mainstream getting smarter? Reporters getting more accurate now days?
There were solar flares disrupting the instruments of the scientists of the day?

Give it up! Where did this object go? It was news enough to make the non-conglomerated news of the time. Yet it is small enough to become the thing of conspiracy theorists now.

You believe in science right? It couldn't be there one moment and gone the next .

The gauntlet is down.


[edit on 7/7/2010 by awakentired]