Giant salmon to be first edible GM animal

well GM animals for consumption may be nearing........its amazing at what our race can do........only to think if we could all realize we are the same...........this thread will prob get both sides..........i know a lot of ppl who think GM'S are bad


www.telegraph.co.uk...

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where did this come from? You got any sources to GM giant salmon?

Not bashing but id love to see some pics

~TR~

edit: lol nvm

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Can they GM them to put laser beams on their heads? Cause if they can I may order a few for my.......secret lair......

Something about modifying them to grow more muscles in containment. These things look huge.



The above video is manipulation of genes that control muscle growth in trouts. Something similar is being done in salmon also.





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Originally posted by prionace glauca
Something about modifying them to grow more muscles in containment. These things look huge.

not to mention tasty... i for one would have no qualms eating GM animals ... assuming theyre safe of course... hell if we made a jurassic park id be cool with it, providing we were eating them

anyone for brontoburgers? They look damn-tasty

~TR~

edit: sigh i shouldnt be allowed into zoo's ... everytime i go i cant help but think how tasty each animal looks... zebras especialy

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If they're going to be grown in fish farms in the sea a lot of them will escape the containment cages and contaminate the natural genetic pool of Atlantic or Pacific salmon with unknown consequences and these GM companies will then sue fishermen for private sales of fish with these supergenes.

Originally posted by Tomb_Raven
not to mention tasty... i for one would have no qualms eating GM animals ... assuming theyre safe of course...

That's the problem. People will assume they're safe and will find out later in life if they actually are. It is not possible to prove if they are safe of not long term, people just have to take their word for it.

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yeah but then again there used to be talk that the black burned bits on toast are carcinogens and cause cancer

I find it difficult to imagine how eating a GM organism is different from eating a non GM one.

The big dangers of GM is the unexpected ways they interact with their environment and other species say interbreeding or out competing other organisms.

Once an organism is dead... its dead and its genes wont do much then

~TR~

edit: spelling et al

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Call me nuts, but I'm not eating anything that's genetically modified for as long as I can possibly avoid it. I eat no meat but do on occasion still eat salmon, and if it turns out one day that there's no other choice but GM, I'm hoping that time is far enough down the line that they will have had both the long-term results of testing it for any ill effects and the time to have worked out the kinks or more likely I'll just stop eating it. Salmon here is now labeled for source of origin (wild caught vs. farm raised) but not with GM indications, which I hope they do start adding to the labels. In time I'm sure the genetically altered food will contaminate the wild and make it harder to tell.

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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Call me nuts, but I'm not eating anything that's genetically modified for as long as I can possibly avoid it.

If you are not buying organic vegetables, chances are the food you purchase is already genetically modified.

Take for example Seedless anything..








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very well put tomb_raven.........definately have to think about out competing other organisms.....we dont want to throw the ecosystem out of whack.......but the GM fish should be farmed indoors......if they were farmed outdoor wouldnt the rain pick up the eggs and carry them and drop them into a water source.......

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I have been following these GM monstrosities for a while, nothing that is not made in nature is safe for human consumption.

Be aware people what you put in your body now will affect you later on in life, what you eat in your reproductive years will be passed on to your offprings and they will be paying for the results of our mistakes.

Is a group of greedy humans tampering with nature for their own greedy needs and they careless what happen to those that will be made into victims

Don't become a victim and neither your children.

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well "technically" most of our food is GM ... if you count selective breeding

most of our "grass" based crops like wheat and such are multiploid and selectively bread to be the way they are today. A similar thing with cows and sheep and the like.

The only difference is that current GM would be fast and as such much more dangerous in terms of environmental balance... who knows what would happen if we engineered SUPER COWS, they may even take over and rule the world.

I wonder what people are worried about when they eat GM food. Are those genes going to transfer to people and mutate them? The pesticides and other things we do to crops are much more likely to do that.

~TR~

Originally posted by Tomb_Raven
most of our "grass" based crops...

Ah yes those "grass" based crops..

I totally agree, we have already conditioned our crops to produce the best yields possible, tweaking nature.

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you know what i meant

2nd line

~TR~

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I buy only local organic and grow my own from heirloom seeds or seeds I save. And I've never had seedless anything. Why are you laughing? You find this funny somehow?

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Totally agree. And I too have been careful about what goes in my body and the bodies of my family for a VERY long time.

Here is an article on this very thing (giant GM salmon) coming. This site also has a list of Non GM foods.


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Terrible what is going on with the greedy Monsanto monsters and their scam to control food supplies.

They want to manufacture our food and then control it.

Here in Ga the Monsanto seeds has been banned by many farmers after they found out that the corn and soy were contaminating their other none GMO crops.

Is no only Salmon what they are tampering with, now farmers are also having problems with the super weeds that are the results of the seed tampered crops, mother nature is very smart when it comes with braking the natural balance, humans make GMO seeds full with pesticide and mother nature comes back and hit the fields with super weeds

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Is that people doesn't understand that organic means organic, none genetically engineer food and free of hormones, pesticides and additives.

So if the produce is tampered in anyway it can not be label "organic".

I also purchase most of my food in organic stores, even when I have to travel to Athens Ga from Albany or Tallahassee, but is worth it and it helps support local growers.

these GM salmon will not be full of hormones nor will the be sprayed with pesticides and they wont be given additives....they are changing a gene.......if you get a large yield from the salmon then ya preservatives would be added.....but nothing really other than that......

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Yes they are cross breeding the salmon with a growth hormone found on another type of salmon.

But what the FDA is no telling is how much of the growth hormone is been used on the genetically engineer salmon.

As we know pesticide crops are pump with higher amounts of chemicals that the same pesticides we used at home.

The reason the FDA is no telling is because privacy issues but we know what and whom they are protecting.

And thanks to a 2008 policy anything that is tampered genetically is considered a drug

Under a policy announced in 2008, the F.D.A. is regulating genetically engineered animals as if they were veterinary drugs and using the rules for those drugs. And applications for approval of new drugs must be kept confidential by the agency.

We can never really found out how much of the growth hormone is been pumped into the salmon that doesn't produce the hormone

www.nytimes.com.../fgJhtRvQ