Proof of Oil Rain?

reply to post by soleprobe

A greater danger involving Corexit 9500, and as outlined by Russian scientists in this report, is that with its 2.61ppm toxicity level, and when combined with the heating Gulf of Mexico waters, its molecules will be able to “phase transition” from their present liquid to a gaseous state allowing them to be absorbed into clouds and allowing their release as “toxic rain” upon all of Eastern North America.

www.eutimes.net...

Phase Transition

N of Normal has already explained that oil may evaporate with water, although at a very slow rate. this is real chemistry. many chemicals with evaporation temps far exceeding that of h20 may be captured in h20 particles as it evaporates. once a dispersant i.e COREXIT is used this process will greatly accelerate, causing the petroleum, water, and disspersant to bond and evaporate as one.

reply to post by burntheships


That blasted Sorcha Faal article again.... when's that thing gonna die

Only a complete moron who has never had a chemistry course fails to understand the concept of steam distillation as applicable here; many of the chemicals (e.g. C5 on up) in the oil/water can be vaporized and combined with water in rain.
Anyone who has seen (and understood) the steam distillation chemistry lab in high school would understand this.

Ozweatherman is obviously an uneducated fool if he thinks that hydrocarbons as oil components cannot be transformed into the vapor state at ambient temps.
I am amazed at what passes for schooling in some countries. I am even more amazed that people with no training in chemistry actually think they know something about chemical issues.

Doctorwork; AN MD who has had significant chemistry training; 2 yrs undergrad; 4 years of graduate chemistry training.

reply to post by doctorwork


thank you! someone with an actual chemistry background!!! all these people have to do is like 3 min. of research to discover truth, but they would rather bicker, try to spread disinfo, and gain a few stars. True Americana, huh.

Well if you wish to ignore that article, and Wiikipedia, try this article, which goes into greater detail. BP can not buy everyone.
www.propublica.org...

If your a chemist, you might be able to gain from reading this:

Analytical Testing for Corexit Dispersants Used in the Gulf Spill
www.caslab.com...

[edit on 3-7-2010 by burntheships]

Originally posted by loam
Then I see something like this:

Is this stuff for real?

I live north of Tampa right on the gulf and that video is FAKE. I have gone scuba diving and fishing every weekend for the last two months and all is great down here.

I have been checking the bottom of the sea floor for any evidence and haven't seen anything bad yet, thank God. I have only been 14-15 miles out so I don't know what the middle grounds look like as they are closed to fishing. I haven't heard anything negative yet.

I had a momma dolphin playing under my boat in the river with her baby last weekend and I almost wanted to cry thinking that the oil could be coming our way.

The tidal pools on the barrier islands here looked normal today as well, Live snails and fish in them with no strange colors or smells.

How about this one. Way up North here in New York state the last 2 times it has rained I smelled what seemed to be gasoline smell. Both times I was in 2 different locations but in the same city. Just maybe these Oil rain clouds are real. Heres something heartbreaking I smelled it near the Niagara River close to the FALLS(NIAGARA). Now remember the power planet here which gets it power from the water, supplies electricity to a large area many states and Canada. They could mess up many things with that oil leak.

Originally posted by GideonHM

Originally posted by justadood
reply to post by gambon

 

show and prove.

photos. something other than just your own words.

Who hired you to derail?

You will always demand proof, but will shoot down everything that shows evidence.

Not at all. But someone saying "Oh, i say oil after a rainstorm" or, 'here's a photo of a dead tomato' is not 'evidence'. ATS used to have incredulous minds. What happened? It's like this BP thing has just lowered the bar significantly on this website. You people scream bloody murder and attack those who ask reasonable, intelligent questions.

People like you are hilarious. ATS is about Denying Ignorance, right? Then how is being incredulous 'derailing' a thread? I suppose you would prefer everyone just blindly accept a photo of a rotten plumbs as evidence of total appocolypse, eh?

Please.

UGH! YOU PROVE, ME RIGHT! Show some evolved behaviors would you?

reply to post by N.of norml


I guess I need to give a resume` of why I may know a bit about what I post on this
I have Masters degrees in Organic Chemistry, Marine Biology and Ceramic Engineering from UCSB and largely financed my education by working in oil field and platform work in the Santa Maria Valley to Coalinga and on Platform Irene off of Point Conception.
My Step father is a retired Vice-President of H&H oil tool and I have been involved with the equipment being used in the gulf from service and rental to installation and use.
My education has focused at various times heavily on solvent toxicity and Physiological effects as well as the effects of the oil seepage in the Santa Barbara Channel.
I hope this will encourage some who have read my posts and though them jibberish. Please look at the data I present and verify it yourself. And ,Please, if you find error or discrepancy let me know as I am educated but not perfect.
N.

Home made youtube videos are NOT proof.

Originally posted by Under Water
On another note, I've been sick all week, with severe dizziness and headaches with some nausea. However, no one else around me has had these symptoms so i think it may just be vertigo. I've had it once before but it was several years ago. Today was the first day i felt some relief, and it was the first day we had hardly any rain.

Probably just a coincidence though.

Hmm - ATS is full of conspiracy theorists - and you think you can wave it away as coincidence??!!

I think not! Here on ATS NOTHING is a coincidence!

JK - I'm sure it is - if there were widespread harmful effects I'm sure you would know about it.

look i dont think these videos are even close to being proof of oil rain...far from it... but you have to agree that oil and toxic rain is a strong and plausible possibility. that is 100% scientific fact not conspiracy or paranoia

reply to post by loam


Thanks for the post..

Very eye-opening and extremely frightening and sickening. While America lights up their fireworks, celebrating their false independence, I hope this time around some minds may be a little bit more awake to whats really going on in this country. This is complete BS what is going on in the Gulf. If this doesn't open up Americans' eyes, I don't know what will.

reply to post by mnmcandiez


AHH ok....with all due respect, I now realize why you leave one or two liners stating very little or not adding anything of substance to threads....your 17! Which is why I understand you are against curfews. I know age is nothing but a number, but sometimes, it shows a lot. "Home made youtube videos are NOT proof." I guess you missed the reports from the MSM, or do not understand the science behind this rain and how it is possible in certain areas.

[edit on 3-7-2010 by Enigami]

www.msnbc.msn.com...
RACHEL MADDOW, HOST: Now, if you just put two and two together, if that‘s all you do, you get oil evaporating to the sky and then coming back down to earn as - as this YouTube video from suburban New Orleans that keeps landing in our inbox over and over and over again.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You see it. I mean, it‘s raining oil. It is literally raining oil right here in River Ridge. Very heavy rainstorm came through and you can see this is oil. Isn‘t that crazy, dude? And you smell it. We‘re smelling the oil.
It‘s everywhere all the way on the city sidewalk which means it‘s all over the grass. It‘s all over the street. Unbelievable.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MADDOW: Unbelievable. Exactly. Precisely unbelievable. The sky might rain frogs. Sometimes I really do think those are next. And high winds or one of those waterspout tornado things might carry some oil from the gulf onto the shore. But raining oil? Not likely to happen in this lifetime or on this planet.
We took the raining oil theory to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA. They told us, quote, “The notion of oily rain is not realistic. Oil, as a whole, does not evaporate, therefore, it is not possible that it would be in the clouds or coming down in the form of rain.
Oil is made up of component parts, some of which are volatile and do evaporate into the atmosphere. These separate and diffuse out into the air. Other component parts do not evaporate and that is what is left behind in weathered oil residue or tar balls.”
So what the guy in that YouTube video likely saw is just the ordinary oil that cars and trucks drip onto the street every day, getting hit by actually rain, water rain, and making gas-station-y, oily rainbows on the ground. It is gross and scary enough to consider that, to think about how saturated our world is with oil.
But the good news is, I‘m happy to report is oil is not raining from the sky - yet. Maybe after the frogs and boils.

reply to post by Pauligirl


If the dispersant was not used then she would be 100 percent correct. We have all seen the dispersant cause a mixing effect at times and thats why the oil is mostly no longer in its normal lighter than water non mixing form.

We all know a water spout could suck the water and oil up but that would be a limited occurrence.

Originally posted by doctorwork
Only a complete moron who has never had a chemistry course fails to understand the concept of steam distillation as applicable here; many of the chemicals (e.g. C5 on up) in the oil/water can be vaporized and combined with water in rain.
Anyone who has seen (and understood) the steam distillation chemistry lab in high school would understand this.

I'm not argueing with you about the hazards, if I lived in a 100 miles within the vicinity I would pack up and move to the north myself. But the heavier compounds are probably those that are the most damaging to a person's health and those are too heavy to just float into the air.

I'd be worrying about waves and strong winds carrying this stuff on to the lands. I don't have much knowledge but I guess there would be lighter materials indeed vaporising then traveling to mainland either by rain or wind and long term exposure would cut off several years or create some disease, most probably lung related. We will not know for certain until after 20 or so years the statistics on certain kinds of disease in that region will be significantly higher.

Found this new one... Shows same bubbles as other videos.

THIS IS NOT PROOF OF OIL RAIN.

this is proof of chemtrail spraying, i posted a thread about this saying it was proof of chemtrail spraying then everybody told me it wasnt and that its perfectly normal to have those rainbow colored oil layers in the clouds. damn disinfo wackjob agents.

the possibility of it being oil is real, but weve been seeing these for years already and its nothing new.

proof of oil rain in my opinion would be brown or black gunk littering the streets.