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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
I believe in the United States of America, as a government of the people, by the people, for the people; whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed; a democracy in a republic; a sovereign Nation of many sovereign States; a perfect union, one and inseparable; established upon those principles of freedom, equality, justice, and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed their lives and fortunes.
I therefore believe it is my duty to my country to love it, to support its Constitution, to obey its laws, to respect its flag, and to defend it against all enemies.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America and to the democracy for which it stands, a nation with freedom and justice for all.
is to adhere to, foster and defend the principles and ideals set forth in the Declaration of Independence, the constitution, and the writings of the founders on matters of freedom in the US, as well as the positive characteristics demonstrated by the people over the course of the nations history (charity, fortitude, faith, etc.)
Originally posted by silo13
Added note: You think any other country would change THEIR pledge of allegiance to make all the newcomers and discomfits happy?
Originally posted by silo13
Why change a good thing?
That pledge was created just so for a reason...
A good reason.
America was born a Christian Nation - like it or not.
And don't blah-blah-blah me, I don't want to listen to the BS of crackpots trying to re-write history.
And no I'm not going to debate it.
If you think I'm wrong too bad.
You can keep your opinion, it's worthless dog rot to me.
More importantly:
The number of lives that have gone to grave to keep that pledge alive demands, DEMANDS the pledge remains unchanged.
The fallen, that gave their LIVES for America - by their blood alone paid the price to keep that pledge alive and intact AS IS!
To change it? Well, would just go to show what a piece of *bleep* the USA is becoming. Wishy-washy have to please everyone bunch of can't stand up for what's right bunch of p-whipped little wannabees.
Added note: You think any other country, ohhh let's say a Muslim Country would change THEIR pledge of allegiance to make all the newcomers and discomfits happy?
Ha ha ha ha ha!
LOL, nope, only in Americant
peace
Don't let the barbed-wire door hit you.
Originally posted by silo13
Stand up for the foundation of the Nation (that includes the Pledge of Allegiance) and you're labeled archaic (that means old fashioned).
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Take a stand for the ideals the Founding Fathers and People of the American Nation fought and died for?
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Just another worthless archaic bunch of tripe those old fogies came up with. Yeah, why not. And while you're at it why not change the Constitution!
The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931), a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850-1898). The original "Pledge of Allegiance" was published in the September 8 issue of the popular children's magazine The Youth's Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's discovery of America. The event was conceived and promoted by James B. Upham, a marketer for the magazine, in a campaign to encourage patriotism and the display of the American flag in public schools.
Swearing of the pledge is accompanied by a salute. An early version of the salute, adopted in 1892, was known as the Bellamy salute. It started with the hand outstretched toward the flag, palm down, and ended with the palm up. Because of the similarity between the Bellamy salute and the Nazi salute, developed later, President Franklin D. Roosevelt instituted the hand-over-the-heart gesture as the salute to be rendered by civilians during the Pledge of Allegiance and the national anthem in the United States, instead of the Bellamy salute.
Originally posted by Wolf321
I did come across this simplified version.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America and to the democracy for which it stands, a nation with freedom and justice for all.
At this point, I have not come up with a single piece that I find suitable, but the great quick thinking minds on ATS might. I will post my own when or if I can come up with one. If we get a really good one that most people like, I would support it going viral.
Originally posted by silo13
Exactly the 'blah blah blah' I expected - only a lot less eloquent than I would have thought.
And I should have known in bringing up an example of another Nations strength in their belief system and someone would throw the race card, lol.
But, put that ignorance aside because the following is just too good to miss.
(Quote omitted)
The only thing you said that makes any sense - and I gotta give it to you, you're right - America is a concentration camp now.
Why? Because too many sheeple are too spineless to take a stand on anything.
Stand up for the foundation of the Nation (that includes the Pledge of Allegiance) and you're labeled archaic (that means old fashioned).
Speak your beliefs and all of a sudden you're trying to 'drag others down with morals'.
Take a stand for the ideals the Founding Fathers and People of the American Nation fought and died for? Watch out, you'll be called a crackpot! Ewwww *shudder*!
Change the Pledge of Allegiance? Who cares. It's just a pledge right?
Just another worthless archaic bunch of tripe those old fogies came up with. Yeah, why not. And while you're at it why not change the Constitution!
It isn't like American's are going to do anything to stop that from being trampled too.
Originally posted by silo13
it's meaning has morphed into a symbol of American's basic patriotism - but - I'll still give it a think and I'll read through the information you posted.
Originally posted by silo13
Target? Interesting word.
I chose 'Muslims' as they're simply the first cultural group that came to mind of which I know that takes a unyielding stand on their beliefs. Something which the people of the USA could stand a good dose of.
How do you know I'm not a Muslim? For that matter have you once even heard me say I'm an American? Noooope.
Extra Hint: I'd be the last one to jump on any bandwagon, as should be pretty clear to you by now.
Ahh, I see, so you don't subscribe to being racists against the color of ones skin - but - you're active in pigeonholing and judging negatively personal choice of religion. Ok, the picture is becoming clearer.
Nope. But I'll take every opportunity I can to say I admire the strength of belief I've seen in the majority of Muslims I know.
They live by a set of beliefs and will die for them before 'changing to be part of the decade', as some might put it. I find that practice, in theory, commendable.
You said - 'Don't let the barbed-wire door hit you...' , and in my mind the finished sentence read: 'Don't let the barbed-wire door hit you...in the butt on the way out'.
I can't see any other way to interpret that unfinished sentence, that implication.
So if you don't want to be misunderstood, next time don't be afraid to just stand up and say exactly what you mean.
In a word? No fly list. But that's getting too off topic.
Human rights to leave your country? Once more - think again.
Article 13.
* (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
* (2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
PS - Ignorant one is me? Hmmm... I think your fingers must be missing something in the translations between brain and keyboard or visa versa. I wonder if it's possible to be intellectually dyslexic? *Shakes head in wonder*...
*Looks around*... You talkin' to me? *Looks around again*... 'You talking to ME?' (Thank you Di Nero!)
Sorry, again I don't understand what you're implying or trying to say, but, I will add this...
The treatment the people of all Indian and African Nations received at the hands of the 'White Man' IMO were so abhorrent I honestly believe (at times) the USA is now getting repaid with a big dose of Karma. And if that's the case, then the USA hasn't seen anything yet.
Yet still it does not diminish the price paid by so many men and women, loyal patriots, who in believing the words of the Pledge of Allegiance died, and are still suffering and dying due to the USA's crimes against humanity - namely war.
Key words being 'essentially worship' for if I thought for a moment the Pledge of Allegiance was a promise to 'worship' the country, no, I wouldn't agree. But I don't see a 'pledge to 'align myself with'' as worship. To me 'allegiance' means to stand beside and uphold and protect, and support, not, to worship.
Ok, fine whatever (considering I never said any such thing), this is just getting too dysfunctional, Times up.