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Huge Alien Structure Revealed - Far Side of the Moon 2010 *PHOTOS*

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posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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The Sun rises in the East and 2+2=4. Practically everything else is up for grabs. It is a curse, amongst many curses, of humanity that we strongly desire the truth yet lack the faculties to discern what it is. There is no such thing as superior awareness only superior talent.

Courage is more important than brains and kindness is more important than courage.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Sky01
It's kinda obvious that this is just an artifact along the seam of the merged pictures...when you see an oval it means that a circle has been stretched out
In which case it should be relativly easy to undo this image arftifact. If someone could line the edges of the images up how they should be, maybe this artifact will dissapear. Or would that be a silly thing to try? (not image savvy, so I won't be trying it)



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 10:32 AM
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posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by OrionHunterX

Caution: Please do NOT depend on Google for alien anomaly hunting!


[edit on 29-6-2010 by OrionHunterX]


I agree, it clearly looks that is a problem with the image. I think that, yes, there are structures in the moon. And yes, we didnt built them, but, come on this is clearly a defecf in the image



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 10:49 AM
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That so looks like a watch to me, but I am going for a problem with the image itself. Either that or someone did a darn good job of adding a watch to the moon, without us knowing about it, and its a huge watch.


Did anyone see the giant ship that left the watch there? Because them have got to be some giant aliens.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by Solasis

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Like i said earlier in this thread, I have talked to people. I am not here to prove anything to anyone. I know the truth, at least to a degree. So my search is more about finding evidence of what i know to be true, not trying to prove it to myself or anyone else.



Now THIS bothers me. You claim you seek the truth, yet you aren't here to prove anything to anyone. You claim to be in some respects like a journalist, yet you're not here to prove anything. That's selfish and ignorant, is what it is.

Plus, for true learning, you shouldn't be looking for evidence of what you know, you should be looking for evidence of what IS true. If that coincides with what you know, all the better; if it contradicts what you know, then you should modify what you know.


It is not ignorant. I may be selfish. Ignorant would be to be trying to ignore new facts or details, which definitely is not what is going on.

I don't claim to seek the truth. I claim to know the truth, or part of it (like i said). I "know" enough that i am satisfied with proving anything to myself. And as for the rest of you....i have tried to provide that proof in the past only to have it ignored completely. I have seen others do the same, with the same effect. You cannot make a horse drink, even if you lead him to water.

I modify my understanding constantly. I gave an example. ISIS may not be a logarithmic program...it might be the program that is responsible for sending the data FTL, as intimated by that guy who worked for NASA.

But to be angered because i am tired to sharing info only to have it ignored, or because I have recieved information from others and am not at liberty to divulge it directly, seems silly.

You have been a member a looooong time here. Go back and look at what Zorgon did while he was here. That is a start, if you want to know. From there, work to gain the trust of people so that they feel that they can share a little piece of who they really are (not just the internet personality).



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 10:55 AM
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Exactly what I thought as well. It looks like an old digital Timex watch from the late '70's that's been photoshopped in. Any time someone feels the need to add "This is real..." to a video my immediate reaction is, "No, no it's not".



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan


Like i said earlier in this thread, I have talked to people. I am not here to prove anything to anyone. I know the truth, at least to a degree. So my search is more about finding evidence of what i know to be true, not trying to prove it to myself or anyone else.


But i can tell you that everything that is sent back to NASA as far as images of foreign bodies goes through a "wringer" known as ISIS.


I am sure it was not your intention to make it seem like ISIS ("Integrated Software for Imagers and Spectrometers") is some kind of secret program, but I think your post can be read that way...

So just in case anyone is interested in finding out more about ISIS, what it does and how it works, here is the link to the ISIS website:

isis.astrogeology.usgs.gov...

I will not pretent to understand much of the information on the website, but perhaps some smarter people than me here at ATS will find it useful.




[edit on 30/6/10 by ziggystar60]



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 11:10 AM
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Well, as I said in another post, I for one would be VERY excited to find out that there are ancient ruins on the Moon. That would be very cool if that ever came to be proven.

However, this is clearly just a stretched image. No matter how much "wishing and wanting" I may do, this image is still just a stretched image of a crater.

I'm not trying to steal people's enjoyment, but I'm also not going to pretend that this picture is anything other than an image artifact of some kind and is NOT a real feature on the Moon. What good will pretending that this is a real feature will help the cause of people who think there may be artificial structures on the Moon?


Just for fun, I did a little stretching of my own to see what it would look like. I'm not "great" at photo editing, so this isn't EXACTLY like the OP's image, but I think it's close enough to see that the shape the OP says is an artificial structure is just a stretched image of a crater.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/bc629b88d0f3.jpg[/atsimg]

[edit on 6/30/2010 by Soylent Green Is People]



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by ziggystar60

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan


Like i said earlier in this thread, I have talked to people. I am not here to prove anything to anyone. I know the truth, at least to a degree. So my search is more about finding evidence of what i know to be true, not trying to prove it to myself or anyone else.


But i can tell you that everything that is sent back to NASA as far as images of foreign bodies goes through a "wringer" known as ISIS.


I am sure it was your intention to make it seem like ISIS ("Integrated Software for Imagers and Spectrometers") is some kind of secret program, but I think your post can be read that way...

So just in case anyone is interested in finding out more about ISIS, what it does and how it works, here is the link to the ISIS website:

isis.astrogeology.usgs.gov...

I will not pretent to understand much of the information on the website, but perhaps some smarter people than me here at ATS will find it useful.




Ahh...i misspoke.

I am unsure if that is the same ISIS. There are many programs under that name, actually. ISIS is the name of the software that ASU uses to process the images from Mars. Not Windows compatible, and likely too resource hoggish for most ATSers.

The other program i was referring to...i cannot recall what it was called.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Solasis
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No, I got your point; my point was that you're wrong, or at least not entirely right. Yes, they'll try to claim that it's a fake; but if it's genuinely not a fake, and it's a clear photos, their denials will mean diddlysquat.

Aha, I knew that was the bridge! Are the ball-lookin' things part of the bridge?


Yup. They're deflector shield generators.

I will now take my nerd elsewhere, as it's beginning to show more than I care to admit.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 11:22 AM
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I think this is important to repeat, as it seems to get lost in the paranoia that people display on this topic:


Well, as I said in another post, I for one would be VERY excited to find out that there are ancient ruins on the Moon...


I, too, would be very excited as well.

AND, I daresay, so would NASA!!!

Don't any of the "NASA-bashers" realize what a BOON it would be for the Agency? They have to continually go to Congress, hat-in-hand, to beg and scrape for funding, and still their budgets are woefully inadequate...can you imagine the flow of money they'd get WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED signs of alien (either past or present !!) activity on our Moon??!!??

[edit on 30 June 2010 by weedwhacker]



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 11:40 AM
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I think it's such a sad indictment of the way people are these days, that we have allowed the agents to convince us not to believe our own eyes anymore.

Anything someone finds that appears to be anomalous and posts it here, we get the 'usual suspects' that chime in with the same old (read: psychologically tried and tested) crap.

You're seeing things...if you look for something, chances are you'll find something...it's just a rock lol..etc. etc. We've all read them before, so you all know what i mean.

Are there hoaxers? Yes, of course..as long as there are dickheads that want to be dickheads we'll have hoaxers, just as long as there are vested governmental interests that are threatened by the majority of the general public learning the truth behind the phony space programme, and ancient artifacts that prove the lies put out by them, you're going to get professional hoaxers.

As for only seeing what you want to see or pareidoila, yes, on occasion it happens..it's a medical fact, although seeing something that is actually there is just as reasonable an assumption too and happens to be the norm, rather than pareidolia being the foremost explanation for seeing something anomalous.

If the pareidolia phenomena was as prevalent to the human senses as many who chime in on these subjects would fervently have you believe, the human race would have died out millenia ago.

The normal pattern recognition of our brains works fine, and we are perfectly able to discern anomalous or out of place objects, without pareidolia (or 'seeing' shapes that are not really there ) acting on our senses 100% of the time. If it did, we would not have survived as a species.

Ask yourselves one question...why does the military have photo analysts that scrutinize spy imagery? Surely, it's pointless isn't it?

If we applied the logic of those that reply with the same old 'it's not really there' reply, then they would be seeing missiles, silos and troop buildups literally everywhere wouldn't they?

They would seeing what they are tasked to find wouldn't they? According to the same group of 'pro' naysayers and 'rubbishers' on here, they could not possibly be seeing anything genuinely there in the images in front of them...they couldn't possibly trust their eyes and sense, because they are being fooled into seeing what isn't there!

Sure, that's why we have photo interpretation and analytical sections in military intelligence...so we can waste money and resources and put our troops in harms way, chasing down the imaginary missiles and bunkers and tanks, that the analyst personnel are incorrectly seeing, because they 'want to' see them.

Give us a break!

Not every group of rocks are just a group of rocks, and not every apparent building is a building. Sometimes there are rocks, sometimes there are artifacts or remnants of buildings.

Grow up and accept it...we've all been lied to by tptb, and on a regular basis for decades, and if my saying that shocks you, then i'm afraid you are not nearly as informed as you think you are, and should read more and watch the government sponsored news propaganda less. The word is gullible.

Another good question to ask yourself when viewing anomalous imagery, is exactly why do these same members seemingly hunt down and latch onto these anomaly threads, if they have no interest or belief in them?

And why do they reply and argue SO vehemently, often using snide comments and ridicule (sound familiar..hint: UFO) against anyone or anything that appears as though it should not be in the image?

There are a LOT of liars on this board, and there are a lot of people who are working very hard, very hard indeed to stifle and quell asap any hint of a discovery of an anomalous nature with regard to the space programme and our neighbouring solar system bodies. OF COURSE THERE ARE!

Just be mindful, that you may not be conversing with an independent person, with their own opinions, but in fact with agents working for the government or military, who do and will engage you using tried and tested rhetoric, worked out in advance by gov and military psychologists to be the most effective against posters, but not so overt that they tip their hats.

This is not conspiracy, this is actually admitted to by the government themselves, so it should be no surprise to any of us to realize it goes on.

With a topic as sensitive and highly secretive as finding ancient human or ET artifacts on our neighbouring moons and planets, it stands to reason it will attract significantly more agents than a more mundane or short lived topic would.

My advice to tptb is if you may want to shuffle the 'members' who denounce these threads, a bit more often...it's getting so obvious we can almost see their knickers!



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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Yeah -- but what about the picture in the OP? Is that a real building or is it likely that it may just be stretched image of a crater?

You don't say so specifically, but it seems from your vehemently worded post that you feel the image in the OP is more likely to be an actual artificial structure rather than an image artifact.

All I'm saying that in the case of the OP's image, it seems to me that it is more likely that one of the images that make up that mosaic image in the OP is simply an image of a crater that somehow got stretched.

My posts in this thread have nothing to do with the "truth" about what TPTB may or may not be hiding from us and has everything to do with the "truth" about that one specific image being discussed in this thread. I have never said categorically that it is impossible for there to be any ET-built structures on the Moon. However, I don't think there is any good evidence to confirm this idea, either -- but that's a totally different thing.

This specific picture is not good evidence.



[edit on 6/30/2010 by Soylent Green Is People]



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:01 PM
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What I fail to understand is why this and many other pictures I have seen ARE SO POORLY ERASED!!!

A professional would have copied a piece of another moon structure onto the area so poorly erased, and no one would notice anything!

This to me appears suspicious...



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by memyself
What I fail to understand is why this and many other pictures I have seen ARE SO POORLY ERASED!!!

A professional would have copied a piece of another moon structure onto the area so poorly erased, and no one would notice anything!

This to me appears suspicious...


Again, the OP isn't alleging that the structure has been smudged over or poorly erased. The OP is saying that is a clear picture of an elongated terraced object (that looks a little like a wristwatch) that may be an artificial structure.



[edit on 6/30/2010 by Soylent Green Is People]



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:07 PM
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Personally I think this is the star warz project set up by the alien grays to keep the good aliens away.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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Note: I'm done replying to you, Furrytexan, because I think we understand each other and neither of us will be able to convince the other. I feel it was productive nonetheless, and while I still disagree with you on some of these fundamentally things, you seem to be a very intelligent person.


Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by EYEofSAURON
 


Another good question to ask yourself when viewing anomalous imagery, is exactly why do these same members seemingly hunt down and latch onto these anomaly threads, if they have no interest or belief in them?

And why do they reply and argue SO vehemently, often using snide comments and ridicule (sound familiar..hint: UFO) against anyone or anything that appears as though it should not be in the image?


I suspect that in a lot of cases -- such as mine -- we are interested, we want to believe. In other cases, they may be interested in the topic, though they disbelieve it; in some cases they may even be trying to Deny Ignorance. Personally, I doubt that we ATSers are important enough in the eyes of the government to warrant our own Disinfo or Denial agents, but anything's possible. And they have to create work somehow, huh?

I argue so vehemently because these fakes and misidentifications will make it that much harder for the Real McCoy to shine through, if it's out there. Especially with people believing in the fakes and misidentifications; the truth will be sullied by all these bunkers-that-don't-exist.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Wow! It does look like a timex!
Yeah, it's image strecthing. . .blah.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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No idea whether the image is an artifact or a image error.

The difference is, i'm willing to say so, rather than say emphatically that it's pareidolia or a hoax, or a image problem or indeed if it's an anomalous building.

Automatically reaching a conclusion one way or the other, doesn't do anyone any good...even the skeptics position becomes untenable if all they do is use the same cliche's and one liners to describe every thread or image they come across. Sooner or later, people see patterns in the replies, patterns that have nothing to do with pareidolia!

As to my vehemency, it is directly in relation to being sick and tired up to the back teeth, of reading the same replies over and over again in threads that are similar to this one.

Originality among the 'specialist' naysayers would be a refreshing change, as would them not immediately making statements clearly designed to intimidate folks and steer them away from actually thinking for themselves, but rather use judgments instead.

ETA:




I have never said categorically that it is impossible for there to be any ET-built structures on the Moon. However, I don't think there is any good evidence to confirm this idea, either -- but that's a totally different thing.


There is a wealth of evidence to support, if not confirm this idea.

You say you are referring to this particular image only, yet every time a thread such as this comes up, you always appear to be saying much the same thing.

If you truly do believe in the possibility for ancient human or ET remnants either on the moon or anywhere else off Earth for that matter, there are many, many examples to support you in your search, that is if you really want to look, and not just look for examples to use to back up your predetermined position.



[edit on 30/6/2010 by spikey]




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