Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

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WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court says the Constitution's "right to keep and bear arms" applies nationwide as a restraint on the ability of government to limit its application.

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There is hope! Now only if we can stay on the path of ‘”by the people” on a regular basis. Every once in a great while, there is GOOD news on the political front. Rare- but very nice to see. At least 5 of the 9 Justices understand that America is America and anti-gun cities can't override the Constitution just because they disagree with the 2nd amendment or any other amendment.


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You know just this past week we had a neighbour killed...
Same ole sad story, he was dating this nice lady escaping an abusive ex hubby...
anyway the ex tracked her down and lay in wait at the grocery story once she came out he opened fire on her, got her in the arm but my neighbour wanting to protect his lady steps in front and took the next three rounds to his chest....

Now before the anti gun people point to this story
let me also say both these people in this story had applied for concealed carry permits, citing the very real threat of this ex... and had that request denied...
if they had been allowed to carry and able to defend themselves I'd still have a good friend and his family would still have their loving father and grandfather, today...

My thanks go out to these Justices... sadly its a bit late


[edit on 28-6-2010 by DaddyBare]

Originally posted by Surfrat
At least 5 of the 9 Justices understand that America is America and anti-gun cities can't override the Constitution just because they disagree with the 2nd amendment or any other amendment.

Well consider that these gun laws did zero....ZERO....to stop the bad guys fron using them. Nobody was checking thier guns in with Marshal Dillion, prosecutors were finding ways to get around the manditory 5 year for using a gun in a crime whiel the bodies piled up at the morgue.

Does anyone remember that trade off? They were going to "crack down" on those using guns in a crime with a manditory 5 year addition to the sentence.....and they were going to protect us....if we just gave up the idea that we were our best first line of defence.

reply to post by Logarock


Florida still has those mandatory sentences, 10-20-Life.

Florida also has pretty liberal gun laws, and a very efficient Concealed Carry Law with reciprocity in 30-something other states!

So, more guns in the hands of legal citizens, and stiffer penalties on those that use guns to commit a crime!

Way to go Florida!

There is already a thread about this.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's too bad we didn't get incorporation. But this still is a big step forward for a change. Now lets see what Mayor Bloomberg of NYC is gonna do. I wonder what effect it will have on his actions against other states gun dealers.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Logarock

 

Florida still has those mandatory sentences, 10-20-Life.

Thats great. There are many places where they have not been inforcing the mandatory.

To the five justices that voted with the constitution and the people.

Sadly it won't change anything here in Chicago. Daley has already been planning to enact different restrictions on us.....

Mayor Richard Daley today rejected the idea that the Supreme Court is likely to overturn the city's gun ban, but said that he will be ready to act quickly to put in place restrictions on gun ownership if it does.

The mayor said if the court overturns the Chicago ban, as expected, he'll quickly present new legislation to the City Council.

He also said that if guns are allowed in Chicago, something has to be done to allow police, firefighters and other first responders know how many weapons are in a home as they respond to a call.

Preserving the handgun ban has been high on Daley's agenda during his two decades as mayor. For years, Daley also has pressed state lawmakers for tighter gun control laws, including an assault weapons ban,but has found only limited success in a state where gun owner rights are closely guarded downstate.

"We'll work harder to make sure only responsible adults can have access to guns across the nation," Daley said.

Awww isn't he sweet he doesn't want to just violate the 2nd amendment rights of the citizens of Chicago, he wants to do it to all American citizens

newsblogs.chicagotribune.com...

Funny how any ruling that actually EXTENDS the amount of freedom we have gets minimal attention in ATS.

Difficult to make out that we are so oppressed when the powers that be keep giving us more rights to own deadly weapons and ammunition on an unlimited basis, all at a time when almost every other country restricts the ownership of those items.

Doesn't sit too well with that "evil oppressive USA" tag does it crackpots?

reply to post by Retseh


I am in agrence with you on this. It makes me wonder about all the police state people.

Do not take that wrong I believe that one day they will push to take all firearms from people, but at this moment the police state seems as if it is a joke. Kind of hard to completely oppress people when you allow their right to weapons. The best way to oppress them is to convince them you know best and get them to willingly do as you ask.


I am happy that on occasion though we actually see some good coming out of DC.

Raist

reply to post by Alien Mind


This thread was posted 7 min. before yours.


This thread existed first.

Raist

Originally posted by Alien Mind
There is already a thread about this.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

No, this thread was made at 9:46 and yours was made at 9:53.



Anyways, way to go, Supreme Court! Too bad we live in a day and age where out of 9 people on the Supreme Court, four of them are too stupid to read. I pray that we get a certain tool out of the White House before any of the Conservative justices retire or die. If he puts one more of his communist friends in the Supreme Court, we're all screwed.

Extend gun owner rights???????

This ruling does nothing.

Yes it says you can now own guns but it covers nothing on the restriction cities or states may place on the gun owners.

$500 tax on owners per gun per year would be ok under this ruling.

A 80 hour training course costing $2000+ to get a gun owners card.
would be ok.

Rules forcing the gun owner to keep the gun/s locked in a combination type gun safe where the gun owner could not get it for self defence in a hurry.

Limits on ammo, types of ammo. where the ammo must be stored.
they could make laws where the gun is stored in one combination type gun safe. And the ammo must be stored in another combination type safe in another room of the house.

They could restrict the guns to state approved gun and require "safety" testing so the guns they approve.
Calif already has this. and it now cost gun buyers 3 times more for many guns then they are sold for in other states.

In calif if you are a manufactuer and want to sell a 1911 45 you must pay the state$5000 for there safety testing.
Now if you want to sell the same gun with a long slide you must pay the state another $5000 to sell that gun.
And if you want to sell the same gun with a short slide anther $5000
now if you want to sell the same gun in .40 caliber instead of .45 its another $5000 to have the gun tested again.

Same thing with revolvers if you want to sell one with a 5 inch barrel its $5000 for the testing. put a 6 inch barrel on it and its another $5000. same gun

Originally posted by chise61

To the five justices that voted with the constitution and the people.

Sadly it won't change anything here in Chicago. Daley has already been planning to enact different restrictions on us.....



Awww isn't he sweet he doesn't want to just violate the 2nd amendment rights of the citizens of Chicago, he wants to do it to all American citizens

newsblogs.chicagotribune.com...

This is great. Like he is the big town Ceasar just having a fit. He talks smack. Dont tell me what to do. Folks are finding this funny. What do they have....the top murder rate in to country....the world maybe. Yet they stay focused on the average law abiding jane and joes rights. He is one of many sick polititcians running our cities.

This all started back in the gang land days when a child was killed in cross fire. In responce many hundreds maybe of shotgun and rifle toting citizens took to the streets and called for Capone to come out and play. They still wet themselves down at "Tammany Hall" when they think of it. I mean h#ll them coke heads got to get money from somewhere.

Originally posted by Retseh
Funny how any ruling that actually EXTENDS the amount of freedom we have gets minimal attention in ATS.

Difficult to make out that we are so oppressed when the powers that be keep giving us more rights to own deadly weapons and ammunition on an unlimited basis, all at a time when almost every other country restricts the ownership of those items.

Doesn't sit too well with that "evil oppressive USA" tag does it crackpots?

Some have been following this thing for a few decades. Having lived durring the Brady Bill and the Clinton years, not so very long ago really, I can tell you there is really an evil out there seeking to oppress. This latest SC idea could be bait and switch or just the ball being punted downfield untill the SC is stacked the other way. Ill tell you anyway not jumping up and down here over this.

[edit on 29-6-2010 by Logarock]

reply to post by chise61


Mayor Daly is a classic example of the "how does he keep getting elected?" paradox.

Seriously, is he buying votes, or is the candidate pool just that bad in Chicago. I mean, really...you can have Obama back if you want him.

One thing Daly doesn't apparently realize is that the 2nd Amendment does not differentiate between responsible and irresponsible gun owners. It would seem we have gone a long way down the road against the 2nd Amendment, anyway. "Shall make no law" is ignored.

I know it will piss off some people to hear me say it, but felons should not be restricted access to guns. Especially when there are so many felonies that have no clear victim.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


No one will run against him, it's the same as when his father was Mayor. He runs this city just like his father, like a big crime boss.

No really, that's ok I don't want Obama in any capacity

I researched that man during the elections and didn't like any of what I found out, which is why I wrote in Ron Paul.

I know it will piss off some people to hear me say it, but felons should not be restricted access to guns. Especially when there are so many felonies that have no clear victim.

I would have to pretty much agree with you on this point, unless the felon in question was convicted of using a gun during the commission of the felony, or was convicted of a violent crime with clear victims.



Daley's already got the city counsil working on new gun legislation, they said they'd have it done by tomorrow

I'm sure his plan is to make it too expensive for the average person to be able to own a gun,

As expected, Mayor Daley and Chicago's City Council are circling the wagons to defend against an unfavorable decision by the Supreme Court concerning the city's gun ban.

Daley said the city would have in place a new ordinance aimed at making it difficult to purchase and own a gun in Chicago.

"We'll publicly propose a new ordinance very soon," Daley said at an afternoon press conference concerning the gun ban.

"We are digesting the 200 pages and will have something tomorrow to stand up to the court's ruling," says Ald. Anthony Beale, chairman of Police and Fire Co. Committee on Chicago's City Council.

www.nbcchicago.com...

reply to post by ANNED


Rules forcing the gun owner to keep the gun/s locked in a combination type gun safe where the gun owner could not get it for self defence in a hurry.

Limits on ammo, types of ammo. where the ammo must be stored.
they could make laws where the gun is stored in one combination type gun safe. And the ammo must be stored in another combination type safe in another room of the house.

They could restrict the guns to state approved gun and require "safety" testing so the guns they approve.
Calif already has this. and it now cost gun buyers 3 times more for many guns then they are sold for in other states.

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Great reply Anned though you could have saved time by typing only one word; "California" 'nuf said.

A guy at work said "well there's a win for the gun-nuts". Most people who own fire arms are not the "pry it from my cold, dead fingers" guy or girl. They are citizens that understand that their city, county state and federal governments cannot always protect them or their families. Also, living in the desert as I do there are times when a nasty critter needs to be dealt with.

I didn't know that safety courses/tests were so expensive.

This decision is going to be contested in state and muni courts to define the limits of the decision.

Remember, you never need a firearm until you really, really need it.



Peace...........yak055h