Pensacola beach opens against federal advice; 400 people sick

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
oils wells tend to be very radioactive from time to time. i wonder if there are radiation readings on this blowout?

Hey Tex,

I heard some readings were double the average of well-head readings and those were taken using tar balls which have had time to decay and release some of their radioctives.

So it could be that some of these people are indeed getting themselves a bit of a dose.

reply to post by tooo many pills


I think it is wrong to say that a person deserves to be sick because he decided to see if the water is safe or unsafe...It is obvious to me that anyone who is so stupid as to make light of this situation will suffer some problem but I won't say that he deserves it. I do think that the government is wrong to encourage people to go at their own risk...and it does sound like an invitation to try to milk money if they can come down ill with some disease serious enough to warrant a law suit of some kind.

In this day and age, anything is likely to happen but I bet if the storm brewing had its effects, more problems will come rather than go away..

reply to post by getreadyalready


Please remember that a massive oil spill and contamination is not an every day occurance and noone knows what the longterm outcome will be. remember that the workers who helped clean ground zero have almost all perished or have major health problems as a result and this is far larger in scope. Believe noone and trust your own instincts and rely on common sense.

I am in Pensacola (Pace) and I haven't been to the beach yet this summer especially now as it is depressing enough to see it on the news. Mainly because my 2 yr old will never get to enjoy the beach the way I did, spending half my life here. I've lived in different countries as a Navy brat and 4 yrs Army and I have never seen whiter, finer sand anywhere. It is such a shame
I do agree that it is ignorant for people to swim in the water, let alone spend any amount of time at the beach. On another note this area has relied on tourism way to much and has not brought enough industry to the area(has done the opposite).When you put all your eggs in one basket....HELLO....Duh!
I am very blessed to be working at the only plant in the area building wind turbines, which is still going for now.Sorry I talk or type in circles sometimes.
Anyway one thing to remember is that this thing will impact not just the Gulf area or but the whole country and maybe even the world in one way or another.
Maybe it really is the end of the world as we KNOW it.

In the movie Book of Eli, a girl who has never known anything but a nuclear ravaged world asks Eli what it was like before...... his reply: " The thing people kill each other for now (water, food, etc.) we threw away then."

When you come to the realization that you have it all but have nothing or have nothing and need everything Jesus is there.

If you(s) really do WANT to see-swim in perfect beaches... come to Australia.

Originally posted by Decypherdown

In the movie Book of Eli, a girl who has never known anything but a nuclear ravaged world asks Eli what it was like before...... his reply: " The thing people kill each other for now (water, food, etc.) we threw away then."

For some reason that sad old song keeps going through my head:

"Don't it always seem to go. That you don't know what you got till it's gone.
They paved paradise, and put up a parking lot

Especially the first line.

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
BP OSHA The EPA all say there is no airborn problem. That's why BP wont let cleanup workers wear respirators because if they do it will signal there is something wrong in the air.

Do you have a source for BP not letting cleanup people wear respirators? There was an instance a while back where BP told certain cleanup workers they could not wear their own personal respirators but had to wear the ones provided by BP, which they were running short of, by the way. Is this a different situation you are referring to? I'd really appreciate the source. Thanks.

Also, the CDC is reporting information and giving advice here.

reply to post by silent thunder


That stuff must be burning brain cell like crazy Has the whole area embraced ignorance?? Why would they even think about opening the beach in this situation?? Oh wait...I know, must be the money Hey, whats a few sick people, its good for the medical sevice's economy.....sheeesh.
seeashrink

I read there are no fish alive in the water. I don't see how someone in their right mind would consider swimming in water where even the fish are dead. Too many people trust our government to protect them and want the government to take care of everything. This is what you get when you get government protection.

I live in South Carolina and I'm wondering what may be in the water off of our coastline. Dissolved chemicals and oil you can't see may spread out without being too noticeable at first. The government may want to put up some infomercials explaining to the stupid what the word toxic means. Will that stop the people from swimming? It probably will not. As far as I know, our beaches are currently safe. That is if you don't consider all the waste flowing out of our streams and rivers and storm drains full of bacteria and other substances. However the sea life is alive and well for now.

[edit on 28-6-2010 by orionthehunter]

oh guys i jsut had a wicked good idea!
i tihnk from now on ill stay away from natural disasters.

I work on Pensacola beach and have worked all week with no ill effect. Now I work on the sound side of the island. I can't smell any fumes until I head to the shores of the gulf side. The water does look clear and blue, but I would not risk it.

ONLY IN AMERICA do people go swimming in oil and pollutants, after all the recent talk. This my friends is what is wrong with society, there are always going to be people who think only of themselves unless, the world wakes up and does something.

I have no sympathy for these people who are suffering due to their obstinate disregard for their health.

but hey, if they get sick...they can be part of a class action lawsuit against BP.

God I wish people weren't so dumb... Those going to the beaches thinking it's ok. It's not 'a bit of oil' they think they need to avoid, as is unfortunately the case on many beaches around the world (I'm in the UK and I've found it), it's the fact that the AIR is contaminated with vapour from this leak... Oil based fumes, and no doubt Corexit toxins. It's rained oil in Louisiana, so sure as eggs is eggs, there air is contaminated.

Easy for me to say, but I'd wanna be packing up and getting the hell out of there, not packing my picnic and lotion and heading to the beach with my head up my arse, coz it's dangerous now, and it's only gonna get worse.

These waters are dying and the air is too... Millions will suffer and possible die, over a period of time, and bear in mind, it's still pumping oil and crap out at an alarming rate!!!

Wake up America.... this is a real situation and will lead to god knows what......

I feel sick to the core and so very sad man has allowed this to happen.

Greed is a killer.... We are unable to live haromiously with our environment. Who the hell do we think we are, that we can destroy our one and only beautiful planet.... It's tragic, it's beyond words.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
BP OSHA The EPA all say there is no airborn problem. That's why BP wont let cleanup workers wear respirators because if they do it will signal there is something wrong in the air.

Do you have a source for BP not letting cleanup people wear respirators? There was an instance a while back where BP told certain cleanup workers they could not wear their own personal respirators but had to wear the ones provided by BP, which they were running short of, by the way. Is this a different situation you are referring to? I'd really appreciate the source. Thanks.

Also, the CDC is reporting information and giving advice here.

I don't know if it's a different situation.. this was a couple of weeks back so I dont remember the source, but it was talked about here on ATS. Someone wanted to wear a respirator and BP told them they could not and if they put it on, they would be fired.

Either the person who wrote the article or someone they interviewed thought the reason must be because if BP let people wear them, it was like they were admitting there were problems with the air quality when they were telling people there were no problems. Made sense to me.

[edit on 28-6-2010 by JohnPhoenix]

Originally posted by justadood

Originally posted by tooo many pills
The worst part is if you step foot on the shore line for an hour you will have to be hospitalized because the chemicals BP is spraying are that dangerous to humans, plants, and animals alike.




[edit on 27-6-2010 by tooo many pills]

That remains to be seen.

Maybe too many pills?

That remains to be seen??? Sorry, but would you take a bath with a gallon of Corexit mixed in? How about a cup? It's utterly amazing to me that..

A. The public, our government(or any foreign ones), and the states involved are not telling BP to stop spraying dispersants.

B. That anyone would think its OK in any way shape or form to correct one giant chemical spill with another giant chemical spill.

Originally posted by FuGGer
but hey, if they get sick...they can be part of a class action lawsuit against BP.

I bet some smart ambulance chaser lawyer is chasing these people down as we speak.

BP may end up asking the US government to make people sign a waiver before going near the gulf, for any reason, in the future.

What if BP used this as a reason to abandon the clean up because it is to toxic. This area could become the next chernobyl

Originally posted by Iwinder

Originally posted by ThaLoccster
reply to post by Iwinder

 

That picture is very real.

See this thread...

Gulf Oil Spill Mapping

Thank you for the link, I can't seem to keep up with this crap and that link is a new "gag and retch" for me.
I kid you not the pictures there are beyond just bad.
Regards,
Iwinder

The reason you can't keep up with this crap is because there is a media blackout, and people who are interested in what is going on have to do the digging themselves to see pictures like this.

I think people on the beaches are in denial that their paradise they took for granted is paradise no more, and probably won't be for a long time.

Dispersant chemicals make it look better than it is so their ex-heaven is now a very insidious and deadly place.