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Originally posted by wx4caster
rainwater over asphalt gets that sheen. it happens everywhere there is a runoff from raods, parking lots, and so on.
Originally posted by alienreality
I don't see how some find it hard to believe it could rain oil and the dispersants...
And someone mentioned oil sheens being seen after a rain... maybe in a big city where it hardly rains much.. Kind of funny seeing people trying to debunk this in light of the situation, but of course being skeptic is still good...
With the oil spill coverup taking place and the definite damage that has and will happen it doesn't even matter if one story about what the oil has done sounds far fetched or not, because of the damage that will definitely happen is inevitable..
And because of the totality of damage that will happen I believe this administration will discover the true wrath of the American people and they will have no place to hide in the future..They will be known in the history books to be as bad as any of the worst villians in history... take your pick...
Update: The EPA sent us this statement: "EPA has no data, information or scientific basis that suggests that oil mixed with dispersant could possibly evaporate from the Gulf into the water cycle." But one of our readers points us to a report (PDF) from the former Minerals Management Service claiming that lighter crude oils can evaporate. So it might be possible that oil is mixing with rain.
Source: www.fastcompany.com...
Originally posted by alienreality
reply to post by wx4caster
Once oil is in water it is tough to remove the two from each other...
And the dispersants disolve the oil plus there are many other petrolium distillates in the mix and so depending on the weather it can very easily rain the stuff, although I doubt you would see the thick black oil raining ...
But the rain will certainly rain a mixture of all of the above mainly because of the corexit stuff being there..
Get some good winds and the dispersant laden oil basking in the hot sun and you can believe it will rain oil/dispersants
Originally posted by cushycrux
Rhmmmmm! This Video is already more or less debunked!
Update: The EPA sent us this statement: "EPA has no data, information or scientific basis that suggests that oil mixed with dispersant could possibly evaporate from the Gulf into the water cycle." But one of our readers points us to a report (PDF) from the former Minerals Management Service claiming that lighter crude oils can evaporate. So it might be possible that oil is mixing with rain.
Source: www.fastcompany.com...
So, it is possible or not?
[edit on 25-6-2010 by cushycrux]
Originally posted by wx4caster
Originally posted by cushycrux
Rhmmmmm! This Video is already more or less debunked!
Update: The EPA sent us this statement: "EPA has no data, information or scientific basis that suggests that oil mixed with dispersant could possibly evaporate from the Gulf into the water cycle." But one of our readers points us to a report (PDF) from the former Minerals Management Service claiming that lighter crude oils can evaporate. So it might be possible that oil is mixing with rain.
Source: www.fastcompany.com...
So, it is possible or not?
[edit on 25-6-2010 by cushycrux]
read the article, then read the report that they cited. now apply the word "evaporation" in the sense that they meant.
not that the oil evaporates into the air. that it evaporates and goes away.
please dont just look for something that may possibly support your argument without reading, and understanding, first.
Originally posted by cushycrux
OIL:
Originally posted by wx4caster
Originally posted by alienreality
reply to post by wx4caster
Once oil is in water it is tough to remove the two from each other...
And the dispersants disolve the oil plus there are many other petrolium distillates in the mix and so depending on the weather it can very easily rain the stuff, although I doubt you would see the thick black oil raining ...
But the rain will certainly rain a mixture of all of the above mainly because of the corexit stuff being there..
Get some good winds and the dispersant laden oil basking in the hot sun and you can believe it will rain oil/dispersants
oil and water are never hard to remove, refined, dispersed, mixed, or otherwise. that is why they are scraping and vacuuming it off of the surface of the water. same goes for any petroleum product.
home experiment (under adult supervision with proper PPE)
take 1 part gas and mix with 1 part water. shake and shake and shake.
sit and allow to stand. observe results.
repeat with motor oil, diesel, any petroleum product of your choice.
dispersants cause the oil to mix with the water, but does not make a homogoneous mixture.
side note: it is not raining methane either. the day it is cold enough to liquidate methane gas is a day we have bigger things to worry about than methane rain. like the frozen solid oceans...
When a liquid evaporates, its molecules must separate themselves from their attachment with others in the liquid and then move off into the air space above. Heating the liquid makes the molecules move faster and weakens their attachment to each other. That is why warm liquids may evaporate more quickly than if they were cold. Nevertheless, the molecules in some kinds of liquids, like oil for example, are rather large and well-tangled up and attached to each other. This means that evaporation, if it occurs at all, is very slow. That is why cooking oil, even though sometimes heated to a very high temperature, does not evaporate to an appreciable extent. Regards, ProfHoff 652
Source: www.newton.dep.anl.gov...