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Are we bringing destruction upon ourselves with our thoughts?

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posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:44 AM
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Hi guys.

I don't post a lot on these forums but today I have something I thought would be a crime to dismiss. I have a strong feeling that we are creating our own reality through our own thoughts. Recently the member Unleashed68 has created a series of threads that pertain to the website www.suddenreality.com

The site looks fishy at first glance due to the dark backgrounds reminiscent to a fear-mongering website. However, if you watch the videos closely and give them a chance they sort of tie together many things that we have been long wondering about. Such as "what is the meaning of life? does God exist?" etc.

If you don't mind me giving a summary (since I have seen about 10 of them so far) they basically say that the bible is a mixture of both truth and lies. (Who would've guessed?) The Genesis portion is true as is certain accounts of Jesus teachings. But much of it is deceit due to the devil playing God in the name of the "Lord". I don't want to offend religions because I believe in God myself, but if you think about it, there are some parts in the bible that are outright ridiculous.

For example, the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" is constantly contradicted by the Lord telling his followers to kill for whatever reason (worshiping another God, cheating, stealing, etc.) in Deuteronomy. This makes you question whether the Lord depicted in these accounts is really the universal creator or God. A more likely explanation could be that the bible has been corrupted by many people over time.

Moving on, an even more important point that I wanted to bring up is the possibility that we are creating our own reality through our thoughts. If this is true we must change our thinking at once and start envisioning a more benevolent world. "Be careful what you wish for" is something that Unleashed68 has mentioned several times and I am starting to understand.

When we always think about how disgusting this world has become and wish for a revolution to turn things around, the consequences may not be what we really want. Instead, perhaps it would be possible to imagine a more peaceful solution to the world's problems. Here is a link that best explains what I'm talking about:

www.suddenreality.com...

What if, by chance, all of this is true? Then wouldn't we be bringing hell on earth due to our own will? The propaganda concerning Revelation and such serve to fulfill these horrible prophecies.

People. We really need to take a step back and stop asking for violence. We should limit the negativity that we are spreading on this planet. A while ago I saw a thread about this very subject. The author talked about how a majority of the threads nowadays are beginning to spread disaster and promote fear in the readers. Please, for the love of your own planet, stop...

To clarify my intent, I'm not a disinfo agent or whatever aiming to discredit the truth movement. I just see the pattern that is emerging and it doesn't look good. To lighten up the mood and take your minds off such troubles, please watch these videos. They help me relax:

www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

Star and flag to bring attention here if you think this is an important matter worth discussing. Thank you and good luck.

Sincerely,

Ivan



[edit on 25/6/10 by wolfwood290]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:47 AM
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Naw, because everytime I do think of good thoughts, I still don't win a million dollars, there are still children starving in Africa, and the Gulf is still getting contaminated by oil.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:49 AM
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While certainly I like the idea of trying to cut down on violence and be good to each other I really don't think the motivation should be some kind of thought crime system.

Basically you're suggesting that we have draconian control over our own imaginations.

I don't know about you but one of the best parts of being a human being, for me, is that when reality sucks you can use your imagination to escape for small portions of time. Fantasy, escapism, ambition and dreams those are all dependent on allowing the human mind freedom.

Certainly we can cut down on violence and suffering in the world but we should do it while maintaining freedom of the body and the mind.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 12:52 AM
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I have given you S & F because I believe that the power of thought is huge and that we have no concept of just how huge it is.

But the power of brainwashing is also huge and I believe this is what happens to people all the time, and a lot of it is engineered by governments.

An individual, with his or her own beliefs, will easily be overcome by a powerful brainwashing machine like ads, political statements, what is stated as "the truth" - it is very easy to come to the conclusion that these powers know more than you, as an individual do.

That is where the insidious evil is.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:51 AM
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Well this should solve that problem.



[edit on 25-6-2010 by RRokkyy]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 04:31 AM
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This guy comes close to explaining what it all means. When the student is ready, the Creator appears: (The soul within you is the light of God apart of God's energy, spirit, mind, vibration, this is why you are able to create when you connect to universal mind)
This is part 1 of 5 you need to go to youtube for the rest by clicking on the video.


Edit i will post part 2 as its important:


These teachings are coming from universal mind now because your soul itself is a mind and that is a particle of God. Your brain causes confusion but your true mind is the soul/spirit/light and it does not cause/create confusion. This is why you have to go within and connect with God at your heart centre to seek the answers of the self and universe.

Do you want to know why Universal mind is awakening you. Everything around you is energy and vibration of God. We are actually anchoring more of these energies before 2012. This is why everyone is connecting on a spiritual level, everyone is tapping into the spiritual mind who created everything known as Creator and also gave you his gifts to create but dont think its all about the mind it is your physical body too. When everyone ascends everyone will realise who their father is then creating paradise begins.



Someone posted the book here www.abovetopsecret.com... and i found the video. Very good to understand and make connections.



[edit on 25-6-2010 by Applesandoranges]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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What happens to this reality is the result of our collective conscious. That is why propaganda has such a strong effect and is employed extensively on the masses. There is a reason why the authorities spend so much money/effort into brainwashing the people. They know the secret of creation through thought that many of us have yet to discover. Why would the media bombard us with images of violence and doom in the news and television programs? Because it earns them good money? Come on now, look beyond the surface. This reality cannot simply be a struggle upon the physical plane. There are forces unseen just like there are powers unseen. You just have to open your eyes.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:46 AM
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In answer to your main question, yes we are. Everything we have, is created from thought, a good example would be the car. It started out as nothing more than a thought, and was then refined from that thought. The homes we live in started out as a thought, and then built/created from that thought.

The biggest problem is, for years the human race has thought about nothing but the self. We are trained to think this way as we grow up, and many see it as the norm. What we are not taught is, life is not about the self, it`s about the whole or the all.

What is the overall picture that corporations worry about? The workers? No. Profits, and profits alone. What are we taught as we grow up? To find the best job we can get, and to make as much money as we can. We are born and raised in a self centered society, and many think it is normal to be that way.

If our thoughts were about the whole, would we have wars? Would we live in a class system? Would we be killing and robbing each other for the all mighty dollar? Would we be seeing all of the garbage that is going on in this world, if our thoughts were about the whole, and not about the self?


Many are just now waking up about this fact, just as you did, and by you asking this question shows it. Imagine, how this world would change, if we would just stop thinking about what is good for just me, and think about what is good for everyone in this world.








[edit on 25-6-2010 by FiatLux]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by wolfwood290
reply to post by Whine Flu
 


What happens to this reality is the result of our collective conscious. That is why propaganda has such a strong effect and is employed extensively on the masses. There is a reason why the authorities spend so much money/effort into brainwashing the people. They know the secret of creation through thought that many of us have yet to discover. Why would the media bombard us with images of violence and doom in the news and television programs? Because it earns them good money? Come on now, look beyond the surface. This reality cannot simply be a struggle upon the physical plane. There are forces unseen just like there are powers unseen. You just have to open your eyes.


The media and TV are bigger pushers than those who push drugs. The ads we see on TV are set to feed the self. The media pushes fear to the self, as it is meant to keep us fearing for the self. The old,"I fear what may happen to ME". And yes, it`s all about money to feed the corporate greed overall.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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we already have one member constantly making threads commercials for sudden reality. We do not need another.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by wolfwood290
reply to post by Whine Flu
 


What happens to this reality is the result of our collective conscious. That is why propaganda has such a strong effect and is employed extensively on the masses. There is a reason why the authorities spend so much money/effort into brainwashing the people. They know the secret of creation through thought that many of us have yet to discover. Why would the media bombard us with images of violence and doom in the news and television programs? Because it earns them good money? Come on now, look beyond the surface. This reality cannot simply be a struggle upon the physical plane. There are forces unseen just like there are powers unseen. You just have to open your eyes.


Ah. I guess that explains why, when I first wake up in the morning, that I think I am a gnome that shoots rainbows out of his mouth. Maybe I should rub my eyes to get rid of the blurriness.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 02:40 PM
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I think you are right about us creating a different reality that we may not really want... but some of us might actually want it. I am often interested in the apocalyptic tv shows, movies, books, etc. My husband thinks I WANT it. But I don't, it's just that I fear it and want to try to know as much as I can to survive it. I know, silly, but that's another topic altogether. So some people might relish the idea of putting all their preps to the test and whatever. I don't know really, but your OP got me thinking. Just the day before yesterday I went to a site that I used to like to read and found something there that I didn't see before and one of the things that is there seems relevant to what you wrote.

"It’s all a question of focus. What you direct your attention toward, is what becomes your reality. The fact you can change your focus in a second does not change the fact that your focus is your reality. And it’s not like you have a remote control, where you can click from one to the other. They’re all going on at once, and in order for you to focus on the really delightful reality, you’re going to have to be able to ignore the others.

This is not a prescription for indulging in fanciful and irresponsible Illusions. This is not burying your head in the sand or the delusional wing of the local psychiatric unit. This is choosing not to become emotionally involved in realities that do not complement your chosen path. Inevitably, you must be consciously aware of the other realities, you must often formulate your plans on their existence, and you must recognize other’s choices to fully embrace any or several of the other realities. But you need not be vested in them."

www.halexandria.org...

eta: I forgot to mention they mention that if enough people focus on the same reality then it more fully guides that reality into a more solid existence. That's if I actually understood it correctly.


[edit on 25-6-2010 by Ellie Sagan]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 05:00 PM
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You are spot on! Congratulations on being one of the few people on this planet who hold some understanding about what is going on in this reality.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 03:33 AM
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We all create reality based on false facts and thoughts.

Religions are among those false thoughts because they tell an intelligent
bunch of reality with false or kidding stories.

Here an example. If you want to create a human, you need a sexual act bringing together two beings, one female, one male and connect there reproduction apparatus or organs. Sperm flows and reaches the uterus and after that finds a docking on an egg cell in the womb of the female. There, during a 9 month process it builds up a human that will exit the female by the orifice of where it was implanted by the male's sperm.

This is a scientific, simple and clear text based way to explain how a human becomes by the natural way of procreation.

Now, imagine you are in a system where dogmatic priests, religious beliefs and faith forbid you any use of those words, nor any explaination based on science and evidence that could break the religious dogma, and this by the risk to be killed, molested and murdered in the most cruel way.

So, then you write Bible-code and it becomes this. Papa is taking a big piece of broccoli, plants that in a huge dark soil where he drilled a hole and after 9 month there is a beautiful head of broccoli there and out of it comes a baby. Then, a pink flamingo passes there, wraps it in a limb and deposits it in a huge bed at home where you discover it and are elmchanted. And, everybody believes that, for sure, since the scriptures say that this is the way all happens.

So, you want all to change the world, then teach and open to all people what the scriptures tell, what message is really hidden in there, how states of mind, events inside your body, your way of thinking and behavior, preventing diseases and unbalancing your spiritual levels and states of inner feeling and so on. All those things are hidden coded and replaced by metaphors inside those books, states of mind and events inside of you on spiritual and physical level being replaced by names of persons, gods, places in a holly land and so on.

If we do not break the arrogance of those that suck your money with that stupid stories and hide the truth from us for reasons of profit, we will never change this world. Humans need to relate on facts to make up there mind and this works in two directions, from it's own perception and from dictated perception coming from others surrounding him.

That's why one says that we create our world in which we live. Remember this, the day you get born you are a customer, once you get religious faith, you get dumb and closed as a safe, once you get your first ID-card, you become a suspect and once you buy your first brand, you become that sucker the established society wants you to be.

And all together is "just an existing human".

Want change ?, make the children become children only, teach them the reality and stop children being christian children, jewish children, evangelic children, muslim children, baptist children, mormon children.
And, for sure, stop miss using the children by teaching them to kill and exterminate all on there way that does not correspond to the dogma.

Not any dogma, YOUR dogma.

[edit on 28-6-2010 by eurocrates]



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 04:17 AM
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absolutely.

see my sig!

thoughts are things
this is the literal truth!

positive begets positive
negative begets negative

it is a free-will choice
i choose love instead of fear!

thank you, Ivan!!!!



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by eurocrates
Not any dogma, YOUR dogma.


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posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 04:32 AM
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Isn't that the concept behind the web bot/ ALTA reports...
based on the fact that linguistics (whats on you mind--both conscious & subconscious) is creating the real-world reality...we will have to deal with




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