It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Iran on war alert over "US and Israeli concentrations" in Azerbaijan

page: 1
89
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join
share:
+18 more 
posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:29 AM
link   

Iran on war alert over "US and Israeli concentrations" in Azerbaijan


www.debka.com

In a rare move, Iran has declared a state of war on its northwestern border, debkafile's military and Iranian sources report. Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps men and equipment units are being massed in the Caspian Sea region against what Tehran claims are US and Israeli forces concentrated on army and air bases in Azerbaijan ready to strike Iran's nuclear facilities.
The announcement came on Tuesday, June 22 from Brig.-Gen Mehdi Moini of the Revolutionary Guards (IRGC)
(more at link)
(visit the link for the full news article)


Related News Links:
www.jpost.com

Mod Edit: Review This Link: Instructions for the Breaking News Forums: Copy The Exact Headline

[edit on 6/24/2010 by semperfortis]



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:29 AM
link   
I understand DEBKA is maybe not the best of sources, this is in just a few hours ago so more will come in from other sources if this is true. So in addition to this there has also been reports of IAF planes landing in Saudi and unloading military equipment ....

Israel Air Force aircraft have been spotted in recent days at a Saudi Arabian military base unloading military equipment in the city of Tabuk, in northwestern Saudi Arabia, according to a report from Iranian news agency FARS.

The base will reportedly be used as a forward operating base by the Israelis as part of an offensive on an Islamic country.

source


Coupled with the build up of US warships and more on the way, it's all starting to feel pretty ominous. I suppose it's possible the Iranians are just being paranoid and the warships are simply replacing others on rotation ,but maybe I'm being optimistic....

www.debka.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 23/6/10 by cosmicpixie]

Mod Edit: Review This Link: Instructions for the Breaking News Forums: Copy The Exact Headline

[edit on 6/24/2010 by semperfortis]



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:33 AM
link   
You also have the new upgrades of Saudi f15, which enable them to combine their forces with the US ones (especially during night strikes, the USAF foavorite operations)...

www.upi.com...

And you also have the launch of a new spy satellite by Israel, and it works already...

www.jta.org...

It's like a chess game, prepare your next move then... attack !


PS : Don't forget that the B2s are in Diego Garcia with the Bunker Buster bombs !



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:35 AM
link   
and here is the link for the Jerusalem Post :

www.jpost.com...

"Report: IAF planes spotted over Saudi Arabia"...

It seems serious...



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:43 AM
link   
I would be really surprised if they did some type of strike today. I think it is no longer a matter of *if* they are going to attack Iran, but *when*. I just hope that this does not trigger the third world war.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:44 AM
link   
reply to post by cosmicpixie
 


Looks like we'll have to wait and see what happens.
Hopefully nothing will come from this.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:46 AM
link   
www.abovetopsecret.com...

already being duscussed here



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:46 AM
link   

Originally posted by SpaDe_
I would be really surprised if they did some type of strike today. I think it is no longer a matter of *if* they are going to attack Iran, but *when*. I just hope that this does not trigger the third world war.


The third world war is bound to happen sooner or later. Nations around the world are starting to get power hungry and they are going to want to expand.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:48 AM
link   
This is also being discussed in the Middle East forum here

And it kind of goes with this...



Meanwhile, the Obama administration has ordered a massive buildup of U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf starting with Carrier Strike Group 10, headed by the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier. Just last Friday an armada of more than 12 U.S. and Israeli warships passed through the Suez canal amid extreme security provided by Egypt. The ships are headed for the Red Sea and from there to the Persian Gulf. Another four U.S. warships will be making their way to the region to join the Strike Group. The Americans have also conducted joint air and naval strike practices with France and the U.K. under the command of American forces, while Germany is sending warships to the area, also under the command of American forces. Forbes


Along with this, there's been a tremendous buildup of activity and tensions in the Middle East in the last two weeks or so, from Turkey condemning Israel, to Lebanon warning them, and Saudi Arabia granting Israel airspace and Egypt getting angry about it to Iran sending a ship through the blockade to Palestine.

This happens every once in a while, in almost the same exact pattern. Something to watch for sure. And enough movement and players now that there could be a slip anywhere to cause an incident that could full well ignite an all-out war.

The target of course is Iran, because look where it sits. Sometimes all you have to do is look at the map to understand what's happening and why.





posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:55 AM
link   
Oh my sweet Jesus.... I really hope these reports are false.

Be prepared for anything people.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:00 AM
link   
Yeah, we have them effin surrounded, lol.

Dont forget the 24 F-22 Raptors that are in the area, 12 in Diego and 12 in Okinawa.

Alot of heavy hitting hardware out on the other side of the globe right now.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:06 AM
link   
reply to post by ErEhWoN
 


Well that's one way of looking at it. Another is that Iran is prime real estate that the U.S. and Israel and company have been after since oh about the 50s. Do you know why?


+36 more 
posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:08 AM
link   
I would laugh if the US tells Israel, "Alright let's mass, now tomorrow we strike". Then Israel strikes and the US walks away. Israel would be SO SCREWED.

Does anyone else share my humor?



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:10 AM
link   
reply to post by ~Lucidity
 



Well, let me guess. Its a three letter word, and it rhymes with 'spoil'?

The US is making moves to secure ITS supplies for the future.

The question is, can anyone stop them?



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:17 AM
link   
Forgive me for not being clued up but what would Iran likely do in the event of an attack involving the USA - how would they retaliate and with what kind of weapons ? America is a long way from them , would they attempt air strikes on US soil ?



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:21 AM
link   

Originally posted by ErEhWoN
reply to post by ~Lucidity
 



The US is making moves to secure ITS supplies for the future.

The question is, can anyone stop them?


Yes it probably does come down to oil for the US right now, but let's not forget security too. French, US, German, Israeli and Arab politicians are frequently seen on TV saying they can not live with a nuclear Iran when that same nation already exports terror. There is a big league consensus emerging saying Iran will be contained and reports like this just back things up



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:23 AM
link   
reply to post by cosmicpixie
 


Mainland USA would only come under attack from Iranian sleeper cells already here. Iran would immediatly start lobbing missles at our troops in iraq and Israel. Then they would attempt to take out our navy in the area. The problem with this thining is this.
They are the big kid on the play ground that has never had a Moab land on their homes.
They are a military power... but we have a much better handicap!



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:25 AM
link   

Originally posted by cosmicpixie
Forgive me for not being clued up but what would Iran likely do in the event of an attack involving the USA - how would they retaliate and with what kind of weapons ? America is a long way from them , would they attempt air strikes on US soil ?


The Iranians would come out with the Mother of Battles kak and fire a few Russian WW2 missiles at Israel with the hope of hitting the target. Then nothing. It would be a walk in the park as long as they don't try and occupy the place Iraq style



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:31 AM
link   
reply to post by cosmicpixie
 


Iran cannot stand toe-to-toe with the US in a conventional war. Thus, an unconventional war is to be expected.

Expect war through proxies (Hamas, Hezbelloh, maybe even Taliban, Muqtada Shiites(sp?) in Iraq).

Probably hundreds of small, fast speedboats in the Gulf, along with drones. Their larger naval vessels would probably be on the sea floor in the first five minutes.

Missiles aimed at US bases of operation in the region, and Israel.

And of course, the never too successful terrorist attacks on Europe and the continental US.

Nothing to keep you from going to work i'm afraid.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:31 AM
link   
Israel Planned Iran Attack From Caucasus Base


A week ago, Israel leaked to the press that they had permission from Saudi Arabia to use their air space to attack Iran. The Saudi’s quickly denied this. The effort on Israel’s part was a ruse to cover their real plans, to attack from the Republic of Georgia, close to Iran’s northern border. However, the breakdown in relations with Turkey after miscalculating the response to their Flotilla raid on a Turkish ship in international waters may have ended this operation.

Israel, whose arms agreements with Turkey mounted to nearly $5 billion dollars over a period of years, had been training pilots in Turkey for bombing attacks on Iran. During these training missions, Israel was smuggling aircraft through Turkish airspace.

Sources indicate that Georgia has become a major transhipment point for narcotics from Afghanistan and other countries in the region. Both a land route through Turkey and into Northern Cyprus and air and sea routes directly into Europe and North America have been cited.

Turkey had allowed Israel to use their air space for training because their terrain closely resembled areas of Iran that Israel planned to attack. However, Turkey was unaware that planes involved in this effort were being relocated to forward staging areas in the Republic of Georgia, making Turkey, technically, fully complicit in this planned illegal attack.

Helping coordinate the attack are intelligence units forward stationed in Azerbaijan, under the guise of technicians, trainers and advisors under the broad armaments agreements with that small nation.

Supply operations, moving necessary ordnance, much of it supplied by the United States under ammunition storage agreements, is being moved through the Black Sea to the Georgian Port of Poti, a major site for exporting coal and manganese ore.

Cover for the supply operations is being performed by the Georgian Coast Guard, set up by Israel and manned with Israeli observers. Their job is to keep Russian surveillance craft away from supply operations under the guise of a “Gaza type” naval blockade of Abkhazia, a separatist province supported by Russia.

Abkhazia and South Ossetia have both separated from the Republic of Georgia and are seeking independence with Russian backing. Georgia attempted to “reattach” South Ossetia with Israeli help in 2008 until Russian forces moved in after the killing of peacekeeping troops by Israeli “commandos.”

US Naval forces began operating in the Black Sea in late May, with the USS Graple (T-ars 53), a service and salvage ship, visiting the George port of Poti for joint military exercises which ended June 8th. Prior to that, the last US Navy ship in the region was the USS John L. Hall (FFG-32), a Perry class guided missile frigate. A Russian spokesman said, “The US is trying to turn the Black Sea into an American lake.”

The US is also maintaining a training and observation command in Tiblisi, a unit from Ramstein AFB in Germany, that is coordinating air traffic and radar functions.

With regular visits by the US Navy scheduled and ramping up at the same convenient time Israel is building up its arms cache in Georgia for the upcoming attack on Iran, the current debacle with Turkey may have set things back or ended this gambit completely. Turkish air controllers had to know something was afoot when the attack bombers failed to return to the agreed upon flight plans and return to Israel.

A critical issue, of course, is the S300 air defense system that Russia has agreed to withhold from Iran as part of the program of sanctions. The current Tor 1 system, though robust, can be defeated by a well planned low level attack. As the use of Georgia may be seen as a provocation by Russia, even if the attacks never manifest as anything other than more “firing blanks” like Israel’s tussle with Hezbollah in Lebanon, Russia may reconsider the delivery of this vital defense technology.

Without the ability to use forward bases in either Georgia, Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan, Israel would be unable to attack Iran at all except by flying a circuitous 4500 mile “each way” route or using the limited capabilities of its nuclear armed submarine off the coast of Iran. It is uncertain how Turkey will deal with the illegal use of their airspace by Israel as relations are already at a low ebb.

With a number of former Soviet airfields spread across Georgia and 4 of 5 fields in Azerbaijan available for operations and support, the region makes a perfect area for broad operations, not only against Iran but for movement of contraband of every variety.



new topics

top topics



 
89
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join