The Carl Farlow A338 UFO case

This sort of encounter is quite common around the sixties and
seventies. I know what I've just typed seems silly, but please
have a look at some other 'odd-behaviour' incidents of those
times.

Lonnie Zamora -the cop from Socorro, New Mexico, who saw
a strange egg-shaped craft in a gully. The roar and flames emitted
from the fleeing object could certainly mark the incident as a possible
experimental craft encounter.

1961 finds Joe Simonton of Eagle River, Wisconsin who was handed
unsalted pancakes from 'Italian-looking' guys in a saucer with exhaust
pipes around it! The two men were dressed in black suits, turtleneck
tops and knitted helmets... not the fashion sense of a space traveller!
There are many more, and they do not fit into the 'controling' kind
of situations that many alien craft reports indicate.

I know George Adamski would have to rear his head in all this at some
time. A lot of his tales, I believe, took us away from what may well have
been encounters with our own countries doing tests.



[edit on 22-6-2010 by A boy in a dress]

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


oh what i would give to have been there albeit at a safe distance.

like you say seeing is believing but the physical evidence alone
supports that whatever happened that night in 67 was unusual.

reply to post by A boy in a dress


yes i agree with you, a major flap.

i like the case's you bring to mind especially the one
about the old farmer who was given the salted pancakes.

that is a really convincing tale but old guys can be tricksters too
i suppose.

anyway thanks to all who have shown an interest in the Farlow case
stealthy~

reply to post by stealthyaroura


The 'flapjacks' or pancakes were unsalted and this
brought in another group of people, who said that
fairies and 'elfin' folk couldn't abide salt, ergo the
trendy-dressed men were from the 'Green Land'!
This set off the old debate about whether Ufos and
aliens were connected to the 'fairyfolk' tales.

Olde Geezers can tell a yarn or two, but this seemed
a little out of left field... too much for this simple farmer.

I tend to have my doubts regarding races from other
planets visiting in 'supa-dupa' craft and the notion of
agencies developing machines that fail or succeed,
seems a more convincing one.

I think we underestimate ourselves, when it comes
to our capacity to invent things.

[edit on 22-6-2010 by A boy in a dress]

reply to post by A boy in a dress

my mistake hasty post sorry
without checking were the pancakes made from just really
simple ingredients like just flour and water?

I never read anything regarding this case and the
fairytale myth type connection you mention.
interesting.so many paranormal things seem to
have some connection with folk-law, well i suppose
that is how a lot of our modern day sightings will
be viewed by others in the future as just a fairytale
or folk law handed down bits added on here and there
thus corrupting the integrity of the original story/case

unless we get the disclosure we need.

reply to post by A boy in a dress

I tend to have my doubts regarding races from other
planets visiting in 'supa-dupa' craft and the notion of
agencies developing machines that fail or succeed,
seems a more convincing one.

I wouldn't buy into that way of thinking either. However, I wouldn't sign your life away to the "agencies" hypothesis. There is just too much evidence suggesting that some of these things use a type of technology that is simply over man's collective head. In the Cash-Landrum case, the physical description fits that of a (possibly) more conventional vehicle with an exhaust. In the A338 case it is not described this way, although the road damage draws strong parallels.

Just not enough to go on unless someone can dig up more detailed information on either case.

reply to post by stealthyaroura


No problems with the salted/unsalted thing.
Yeah, the pancakes were just that... flour and water!

It may well be that we are looking for an answer, in the
same direction that we're looking for a God.
We like to tidy up, put things in neat piles and cobble
two theories together... that way, we feel we have an
answer on life.

But life isn't like that, whether these two things are
connected isn't really important, what is -is that we find
out why these things occur and our role in it.

reply to post by Scramjet76


I agree that the Cash-Landrum case falls under the heading
of 'one of ours' The helicopters that circled the craft imply
a concern of a 'parent'

The rashes and blisters endured by Betty and Vicki may
also indicated fallout from the machine's energies.

Well I've read some of the comments to this topic as well as the topic (Obviously). Now my personal opinion, There are 2 ways I can see of looking at this, 1) It was an experimental craft made by the government and never told to the public, Or we have a phenomenon on our hands. Now let's say it was made by the government, It wouldn't of been the first time the government had hidden something from the public like this, However it's highly unlikely that it was made by the government. I believe more so that it WAS actually 'aliens' however let me ask you this first, How do we know THERE the one's that are the aliens? How do we know these 'aliens' weren't here first? And that THEY are 'god'? Just think about that to yourselves for a bit, Now back to the subject at hand.

If it IS 'aliens' it wouldn't surprise me, Put it simply it was at night, so the sun couldn't be what melted the tar and the heat cant be blamed for melting the paint from the phone booth, There was an EMP apparently of some kind since the headlights on the wagon stopped, the engine on the jaguar stopped and the lights in the phone booth off, What confuses me though is that an EMP blast knocks out ALL electronic devices so why didn't the engine in the wagon die? And how come the phone still worked in the phone booth?

These are all VERY good questions and I do not have the answer for this, We can only make assumptions and bicker over the right answer, However, My belief is, is that it WASN'T an EMP blast, but something else. The tar on the road melted from an intense heat AT NIGHT, Granted it can get very hot at night, but not hot enough to melt tar, Nor hot enough to melt paint. I know this personally having run a few tests myself, Therefore it gives me the assumption that whatever this craft was, was giving off enough heat to melt tar and paint.

I will say this, I believe the tar and paint melting as well as the weird electronical failure was caused by this mysterious craft. This sounds like a lot of cases where something electronical fails whenever some kind of UFO is around, I remember one about a guy who saw a UFO that was shaped like a house and seemed to have 2 stories to the 'house', His entire house went black as did every house within 3 square miles and nothing was wrong with the power station, All cars and all electronical devices refused to work including house phones. This makes me wonder even more if we are truly alone on this world or not.

reply to post by TheConspiracy


I'm glad you read and took in all the valid points.
about the aliens.

does this machine have to have been piloted?
do we not 1st send probes to outer planets to explore
whats down there and what if the probes we have sent
out were to encounter a species that would be susceptible
to our probes power plant?
i must say i have enjoyed this thread it has bought some
meaning back into this part of the forum for myself anyway
thanks.

EMP blast knocks out ALL electronic devices so why didn't the engine in the wagon die? And how come the phone still worked in the phone booth?

Truck had a diesel engine, diesel fuel auto ignites under pressure without the aid of a spark plug. The phone system in the 1960s was totally analogue there were no active electronics requiring a battery in a phone in those days. It was, little more than a more sophisticated version of two tin cans and a piece of string. Anything requiring batteries, the car engine, the torch etc was affected.

reply to post by stealthyaroura


The Cumbrian Spaceman case may well fall into this
category of yours regarding how to investigate a planet.

I won't go over the story here, but to have a photograph
of a small girl's head and upper torso with a clear sky
behind her, some grass and what looks like one of
today's astronauts sticking out of the right side of the
girl's head, is an unusual image!!

The grandfather of the child saw nothing behind the her, when
he took the photo and when 'Ministry' men showed up at his
door and drove him to where the event occured, they seemed
to relax as he related his account and then drove off, leaving
the elderly man alone on the moor!!

The 'astronaut' could well have been part of a probing plan,
we have no idea how others may go about gathering information
from our planet, but some of the 'weirder' things that are witnessed
could well be something to do with what you suggested.

[edit on 23-6-2010 by A boy in a dress]

Originally posted by FireMoon
EMP blast knocks out ALL electronic devices so why didn't the engine in the wagon die? And how come the phone still worked in the phone booth?

Truck had a diesel engine, diesel fuel auto ignites under pressure without the aid of a spark plug. The phone system in the 1960s was totally analogue there were no active electronics requiring a battery in a phone in those days. It was, little more than a more sophisticated version of two tin cans and a piece of string. Anything requiring batteries, the car engine, the torch etc was affected.

Ah yes I see now, Thank you for shedding insight onto this, This was something I didn't know (I don't know much about the electronics back in the 60's)

reply to post by A boy in a dress


now remember in the 1960's in cumbria we the UK
had our own version of NASA. we built blue streak
and black night rocket's out there.

We were planning on having our own space programme,
and may i add these rockets that WE the UK built and tested
on a small budget got some amazing results!
only to have the whole project shut down


This is what i think may of happened with the cumbria space man.
it was just a human in training out in the open in a space suit.

you must admit the area and year of the event are within
the possibilities no?

I don't know MUCH about what your talking about, BUT, from what I've been able to find, Your correct, It is within possibility however, Just be sure to think of every possible reason as I did with the topic you originally posted, Those we're the two things I could think of, And as I said.....The government having something that hightech and advance back in 67 is HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY if not completely impossible to of had...after all, We only recently got stealth bomber's to actually be....stealthy....

reply to post by stealthyaroura


Actually, the most important piece of technology that was developed in Cumbria in the 1960s was the basic design, still used today, by virtually every underground missile silo. By then, the Blue Streak programme had ceased to have any military function and had been declassified.

As we are doing the 60s Britain here's a good one.

www.ufocasebook.com...

And two more that were only a day part but seem to be the same craft..

www.ianridpath.com...

and on the 25th of October the next night

October 1967. Location - Sussex and Oxfordshire. Following reports by several members of the public (including an RAF Wing Commander) police officers across the counties of Sussex and Oxfordshire observed a fiery cross UFO. One of them, a motor cycle officer, PC BRYAN CAWTHORNE, observed the UFO between Ringmer and Halland having initially thought the object to be a star. He pulled over to the side of the road to getter a better look at it and described its motion as slowly moving forward and backwards. He definitely confirmed that the object was actually moving by lining it up with a telegraph pole. He reported the incident to his control and was informed that other officers had also reported seeing the object. UFO CLASSIFICATION – NL (NOCTURNAL LIGHT) On Duty sighting. 3 Officers. Source: Evening News 25/10/67.

reply to post by FireMoon


oh yes firemoon i remember now the silo concept!

did you see the very good documentary on the whole
cumbrian space race? very well made and such a shame
we the UK abandoned our hopes of putting a man on the
moon using our great rockets.

the rocket motor design did go on to put satellites into
orbit for other countries if i remember correctly.

also thanks for the links I'm off there now.

reply to post by stealthyaroura


... This is what i think may of happened with the cumbria
space man.
It was just a human in training out in the open in a space suit.
You must admit the area and year of the event are within the
possibilities... no?

Yeah, it makes sense along with why the Ministry came to check
on it. It's the folk who want it to be motre, want it to sinister, that
muddy the waters.

It could have been a prank or as you say, an actual training
exercise in regards of space exploration. A easy 'Occams Razor'
answer ususally surfaces unless your intent is otherwise!

Originally posted by Scramjet76

Good OP Stealthy. I found it interesting how the diseal engine did not die but the gasoline one did. Of course we could point out the fundamental differences between gas and diseal engines, but I'm not sure that brings us closer to the truth. For instance, why do some folks report their car shutting off during a CE and yet once the encounter is over their car starts up again? In this case, the Jaguar was (apparently) not able to continue even after the UFO left the scene.

Jag's used to break down all the time

The issue of vehicles dying and then starting has always intrigued me. Dying can be understood but starting of their own accord which requires electrical power to be applied to the starter motor (usually by a turn of a key) not so easy to explain.

However, I have come up with three possibilities.

Firstly there are many CE reports that mention an alteration of the perception of time, usually slowing down or missing time. What if, within a particular radius and either as a by product of a propulsion method or simply a deliberate directed beam, a stasis is achieved whereby any moving parts are frozen. A state of paralysis is often reported by the witness also.

Maybe the vehicle's engine hasn't stopped as such, time has, and the moment time starts again the engine just continues running.

The effect may vary according to distance perhaps as in this case, rather than the distinction between petrol or diesel maybe electrical circuits are affected at a greater distance whereas actual stasis of pure mechanical machinery is only when closer. Of course the Jag failed to re-start on this occasion which ruins this theory but it's a work in progress !

Secondly maybe it is part of the process of wiping memory or getting the participant to forget, by returning devices back to the state they were in before contact.

Thirdly maybe the visitors are benign and just ensure you get a ride home !

reply to post by chunder


hi chunder, i like the theory or as you put it a
work in progress.

yes i kind of see what you mean like time slows
or stops completely.this could be an inter-dimensional
thing or also maybe its just some apparatus that puts
out a burst of EMP maybe a by product of there propulsion.

or like you postulate maybe use this electromagnetic
energy as a way to stop us and then allow us to carry
on with our journey (as if nothing strange has happened)LOL

a different way of looking at it.nice.