police arrest teen for allegedly promoting ethnic hatred on Facebook

police arrest teen for allegedly promoting ethnic hatred on Facebook

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SEPT-ILES, Que. – A Quebec teen is in trouble for allegedly inciting racial hatred through the social networking site Facebook.

Police said Tuesday the teen was arrested and charged with using his profile page to spread hatred against different minority ethnic groups.

The 17-year-old from northeastern Quebec faces two charges: one of uttering threats and one of inciting hatred on the Internet.

The boy is a minor, so his identity cannot be revealed.

Provincial police Sgt. Patrick Lowe said police began investigating in February after receiving a complaint from a citizen.

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Regardless of what this man way saying this is his RIGHT. The first amendment was not created to protect popular speech but unpopular speech.
This sets a dangerous president we can not stand for this. yes this man if was promoting ethnic hatred is a very ignorant person but he is American and has the right to say what he likes regardless of what it is.

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I don't understand how you can prosecute anyone for such things... if you are offended, disagree, or some other flavor of agitated, don't access the page.

It's not like you HAVE to see this kid's Facebook page.

If he is not ashamed to show his ignorant hatred and such, I'd prefer to know it, rather than have him grinding his teeth until he snaps and does something stupid.

I suppose each society will do as they wish regarding these utterances. But I can't see how this helps other than as an expedient band-aid to calm people who just sit in rage staring at their computer screen and thinking the internet is theirs to purge.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall.

What the hell happened to this kind of menatlity?

This is in Quebec is it not?

So I would think their Laws are different.

IMHO i still think this is inappropriate, but people need money and the system does charges like this because, well its what the system does.

You would be surprised when the U.S. creates artificial liens against one of your assets and seizes it and tries to resell it. It has happened to me.



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Wow, just wait until they work their way around to the anti-semitic posts that I see every day in ATS.

Take care guys, you may be looking at something a tad more serious than one of those Extreme T&C Violations..........

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Just want to point out that this is in Canada. We have hate speech laws that can and do get used regularly. Your laws don't apply here. That's the reason that scumbags like the Phelps from the Westboro baptist Church were denied entrance to Canada.

This guys lives near me and I think this is BS.

Hate crimes laws are utter BS. They mostly are used against white people, when anybody else does something like this, it's just a regular crime.

Hate crimes laws are against free speech.

I hope you guys in the US will stop this BS from passing.

reply to post by Vitchilo


Not all hate crimes are verbal.

You want to see a big hate crime?

Whites vs. Browns.

U.S. vs. Iraq

The biggest hate crime ever committed IMHO.

Isn't arresting this kid, simply for opposing his point of view, also a "hate crime" in itself, Oppression at its best.

Originally posted by Quickfix
reply to post by Vitchilo

 

Not all hate crimes are verbal.

You want to see a big hate crime?

Whites vs. Browns.

U.S. vs. Iraq

The biggest hate crime ever committed IMHO.

us vs iraq was a love crime.

love for money.

This kid should be tried as an adult, and given the electric chair.
I'm sure he was completely aware of what he was doing at a adult level.

Originally posted by Vinveezy


This sets a dangerous president we can not stand for this. yes this man if was promoting ethnic hatred is a very ignorant person but he is American and has the right to say what he likes regardless of what it is.

Am I reading the wrong article?

It says he is Canadian, and in Canada. Last time I checked, even though I personally like to think of Canada as the 51st state, it is NOT part of the US and thus he does NOT have a first Amendment right to free speech as Americans do. I dont know what their rights actually are, but whatever they are, our rights dont dictate them. Unless something happened last night I am unaware of.

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It also says he was charged with making threats. The law is different in Canada. Promoting hate or violence against an ethnic group is a crime, as it should be.

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I agree that anti-Semitism is shameful, but people do have the right to think what they want. They cannot act on that hatred in a violent way however. And ATS is not Canadian anyway.

Let's be honest, we in the USA are just a small step away from this ourselves. Freedom of speech has become a farce. It just so happens that instead of instantly getting criminal charges filed on you after you say something "inappropriate" you will lose your job, see your reputation destroyed by the media, and get slapped with government fines should the comment be broadcast over any airwaves.

I give Canada some level of credit for at least having the balls to place their draconianism and nanny state laws out in the open rather than operating thought police activity covertly like the USA currently does.

Incitement to crime should not be protected by free speech. It is possible that this was the case, I have seen this behaviour on fb quite a few times. The arrest is then justified, I believe.

But it could very well be for some stupid reason, there are people that immediately shout "racism!" at lots of "politically incorrect" statements, I have seen this behaviour on ats, too.

Until we know what was the offense, it is just speculation.

Originally posted by Maslo
Incitement to crime should not be protected by free speech.

I agree in principle, but using many of the member post topics on ATS as an example we see even situations where that logic could be bastardized by our dear government leaders. Obviously, if you have a posting encouraging people to murder someone, it no longer is a freedom of speech issue. However, what about encouraging people to protest unfair taxation by not paying? Encouraging people to defy the law and form unlicensed protests? Hell, even just advocating the impeachment of a so-called 'representative' is considered seditious by many in power and, thus, could be illegal if it lost the blanket protection of free speech.

They (TPTB) have already started in that direction here in the US of late. Look at all the jargon that was flung at the Tea Party members. When the sedition arguments were met by a collective "So What?" by the bulk of America, they switched to the racism and hate speech angle and gained a lot of ground with the average ignorant American who bought the government's crap.

If you have a legitimate threat, complete with evidence of preparations to carry out violence, law enforcement should act on it. If, however, you have a loudmouth flapping their gums with no real intention or plan to carry out actions, having to live with their own stupidity is all the punishment needed for them, IMO.

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That is true. The love of money.

I was thinking more along the lines of written law.

But the Law of money is an unwritten Law and pretty much supersedes any laws, regulations, and codes anyways.

Money makes the Law.

1. The guy is canadian. It was in canada and is being handled by canadian authorities as it should be.
2. Yes they have the right to freedom of speach in the u.s (for a little while anyway) but its meant to be used responsibly as are all rights. ie THINK before you speak not just spout off any vile rubbish.. 3. Regardless where it happens in the world making threats and spouting racist rubbish are completely unacceptable behavior.