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Canada should expect rise in honour killings, expert says

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posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 01:08 PM
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That's fine to say, but it's not right to expect these people to disregard decades of programming as soon as their feet touch Canadian soil. They come seeking respite from the conflict, but that kind of baggage doesn't go away overnight, it can take a lifetime to change. It's unreasonable to think that they will come over here and say 'Well, now we're Canadian now. Let's get a house, a car, and some RRSPs and forget about everything else. Honey, take off that burka and go get some makeup.'

You speak of western values, but you seem to forget that our country has long been one of the key peacekeepers and safe havens of the world. A place where the frightened can find peace. A large part of our national identity is built around being tolerant of other cultures and welcoming those seeking the better life that this country can provide. We can't simply say 'they might commit violence and murder because their kids stay out too late, deny them entry' because Lord knows no born-Canadian ever committed violence or muder to a family member.

Honor killings are heinous, and those responsible should be held to the standards of justice. But the fact that they happen does not mean we close our borders to anyone that doesn't want to fall into step and become proponents of "western values" right off the boat. These things take time.

This country was built on the backs of immigrants. We are all descended from them in some fashion. Don't condone the honor killings, don't sympathize those who commit these atrocities, mourn the lost, bring the culprits to justice and educate recent immigrants and refugees on how Canadian culture can cause stress and rifts to form between individuals in these situations.

Educate, understand, and take preventative measures. Don't pontificate from your pedestal.

[edit on 17-6-2010 by dontblink]



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by SkyMarshall
This is what happens to a country when the death penalty is abolished, people don't fear committing atrocious crimes like this.


It has nothing to do with the death penalty in Canada. Our country is a melting pot of every culture on this planet and unfortunately Canada happens to be a very racist country in an underlying way (you won't be able to understand unless you grow up in it), so these various ethnic groups have very little interest in mingling with each other. I see it all over: in Vancouver, my international university, my neighborhood, etc...

The Canadian government likes to label all of its people in one way or another, which creates massive rifts in Canadian society. But even with the nature of the Canadian government, honour killings are cultural, not national.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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ALL killings are wrong regardless .. There is NEVER justification to take the life of another human being . ALL life is valuable..



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 05:50 PM
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Get real,expect a rise in patricide,because women arent stupid,this girl was misinformed,she took a tremendous risk without proper support.

Anyone deciding to "out"themselves when there may be risks due to cultural retardedness,NEED TO HAVE AN EXIT STRATEGY LIKE ANY OTHER ABUSED THREATENED WOMAN NEEDS TO HAVE AND THE SUPPORT THAT ENTAILS -----BEFORE YOU COME OUT OF THE CLOSET.

No,expect more dead dads and brothers,or better exit strategies.

And isnt there a better term than honor killing,what a tasteless thing to even write.

There will be honor in the act of taking her murderers life and thats all the honor there except for her martyrdom for the cause of female safety in equality worldwide.

Those men are murderers and as a Canadian I say hang the pukes.

And leave your damn criminal cultural practices at home when you come to Canada,if you have a problem with that we have a lot of good olde Canadian gangsters waiting for you in our prison system,you ever see what a Native gang can do to you in a Canadian prison?You think a mexican prison is bad?

In canada its no women and no children with no exceptions,I say hang the murderers,and name a school after the girl in her honor.

[edit on 17-6-2010 by one4all]



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