Asks U.S. billionaires give away at least half of the wealth.

reply to post by guavas

Or maybe its just two different opinions being propagated by two different groups of people. *shrugs*

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When Warren Buffet give away 98% of his money and good old Bill give a whole half I think it's safe to say these guys don't see the dollar being all that valuable in the near future.

If I had to guess I'd say the dollar is going to tank so low that stashing half your wealth in the form of a tax credit is a sign of a ship sinking.

But still Some one GET ME WARREN"S NUMBER NOW!!!!!

I think I might still be able to buy a stick of gum with a few million.

Originally posted by SevenThunders
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Absolutely correct. The Gates foundation is heavily into promoting vaccines, which is probably the number 1 tool for NWO population control and is likely responsible for the mass epidemic of autism (despite wihat the big pharma funded studies claim).

Lets not forget who funds the racist organizations, la Raza and Maldef, namely the Ford foundation and the Gates foundation. It's disgusting. The rich's so called charity is just a tool for world domination and subjugation of the masses.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by SevenThunders]

People like you get right up my nose. Vaccines are so terrible huh, well guess what, vaccines are responsible for the eradication of diseases you probably have never seeen.

Polio? Vaccine killed it, Smallpox? Vaccine got that as well. Measles, mumps and rubella are virtually unheard of in western socities with a good vaccinatino program. You dare to suggest that vaccines are used for population control? If the NWO wanted to control the population they would stop using vaccines, just fill them with water and the next generation would be susceptible to some nasty diseases.

Deny ignorance. It isn't just big pharma who study vaccines, private scientists do as well and have found them to be safe. The autism connection was caused by one stupid doctor looking for a little publicity.

I just wanted to add my 2 cents here, I haven't read all the posts, but I expect I am in the minority when I say do not trust anything bill gates says this whole giving up money for charity IMHO is bull#.

I bet many aren't aware that bill gates built a row of houses with all sorts of gadgets in them in order to monitor the energy efficiency of a typical household, he has now developed the technology to dramatically reduce all of our 'carbon footprint' and most importantly our household bills , so the question I have to ask is why, if he wants to help people does he keep this technology for himself? if not to make even more money and have more slice of the pie.

Wherever there is money there is corruption - prove me wrong!

In case you don't know Bill gates gives money to castrate people, I'm not sure it's a good idea, coming from him.

I wish this sort of thing would happen everyday to this eugenicist baby killing maggot minion of evil....

www.youtube.com...

I know I'lll get hammered for this, but as a socialist I would argue the super rich should be taxed a lot more redistributing the wealth throughout society, you know for schools, hospitals, public services. Services that these billionaires have taken advantage of and used to gain the positions they now find themselves in. Instead these billionaires pick and choose where there money goes, funding their own choices rather than thinking about the wider society as a whole.

Socialism is about society, improving society for everyone, not just those the rich take a fancy for.

Frankly this great if they will really do it. The real problem is will the charity do the work they say they do or will a large chunk of the money go into the leaders pockets.

This is what I do (not a million dollar CEO) in Asia. Our org. goes directly to those that need and gives them food and clothing.100% of our funding goes to getting the items to those that need. We have no paid positions, its all volunteer. We track every donation no matter what it is and are accountable for 100% of it.

There are lots of big name charities out there with million dollar CEO's that the only time they got "in the field" was for the photo shoot. Thats not charity, thats robbing the poor even more.

Will Bill and Warren lead the way? Well I'm not holding my breath. So I guess its a wait n see. There are allot of people that we want to reach but lack the funding.

[edit on 6/17/2010 by pstrron]

Bill Gates is a eugenicist. He wants more money so he can kill more people through vaccinations. He now has nano vaccines he can drop through the air to sterilize everyone without their consent or even knowing . He also wants cap and trade to destroy all production and have world government to enslave the planet. A good guy? NO.

Wearechange confronts Bill Gates.
www.youtube.com...





[edit on 17-6-2010 by EndtheFed]

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This is what I do (not a million dollar CEO) in Asia. Our org. goes directly to those that need and gives them food and clothing.100% of our funding goes to getting the items to those that need. We have no paid positions, its all volunteer. We track every donation no matter what it is and are accountable for 100% of it.

I truly hope this money get to an Org. like your Friend.

The big ones have gotten to big, I just don't understand how the Red Cross can not be broke. Reminds me of the pope with his gold crown.

I just hope it goes to people who care like you.

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I agree that is how a charity should be run, all funds going to the people that need them. However when you are talking about massive charities that have a very large operation then it's difficult not to pay the people to run them. If a person is working full time to run something like that then they need money to live their life.

The rich giving away their money voluntarily i think is a great idea. Even if they use this as an extra tax loophole it doesn't matter because help will still be given to those who need it. I think more of the ultra rich are beginning to realise that they can't take their money with them.

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I like how you people Bash Bill Gates over things like this.

"Bill Gates did this, Bill Gates did that"

It's sickening....

How can you comment on him funding the cutting of peoples balls off and inhumanely sterilising people as if they were pigs in a meat slaughterhouse with out mentioning his most hideous, disgusting crime against humanity of all!

Bill Gates MADE WINDOWS VISTA!!!!

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

If a person is working full time to run something like that then they need money to live their life.

We only have a few full time positions and in those cases we will provide room and board. When you do charity work, your not in it for the money. If you are, your in the wrong line of work. Big charities end up with as much as 80-90% of the donations going to operations and staff. We have had many desiring to work with us and ask how much we pay. When told there is no pay they quickly vanish.

I've seen millions lavashed on the big charities little gets done and they cry poor mouth. A large chunk of thier donations are used in addvertizing and tv beggathons. Many get over 10-20 million a year! We could operate for 20-30 years on that. We go to the areas the other don't. Nor do we dump the rice and clothing on the dock and leave. Rice is cheap and there is pleanty of it but its just not getting where it needs to go. Why, because big charity isn't interested in moving it. They have the funds just not the real desire to move it. Sorry for the rant, I just get upset when they take the money and cheat the poor n needy.

In some ways I have the feeling that the big charities will get the meat and the rest of us will get the bone. I went to the website and sent them a message. Lets see what they will reply.

We all know the agenda but if we can get our hands on some of it the poor will receive what they need.

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Exactly how I feel too. I would like to add as well to your point the following quote

Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

How much is your net worth? Home, 401k, savings, cars, furniture, pots & dishes, clothes?

How you about giving half your net worth away? People who have less or didn't work as hard feel you should, so take the money from your family and give it up.

Problem is that the money the billionaires have is hard at work in investments, and by investing in companies the money is creating jobs and running the economy. Give it to someone less skilled, and you might as well light the money on fire. Give money to some of my family members, and they'll take every dollar and turn it into two dollars of follow-up expense.

We humans have overpopulated the earth. Here in the US I've been crowded out of every home city I've lived in. A block would turn from orchards to companies to neighborhoods to high density housing. Do we really need to support the health of those heavy breeding where we're overpopulated?

sigh....
Firstly: It's already been proven that vaccines don't cause autism, in fact I'm pretty sure the British doctor that first made that claim has lost his license. But, I guess that's just TPTB spreading misinformation, right?
Autism is sad, no doubt, but life is life, and sad things happen. Could the rising levels of autism *possibly* be linked to all the crap we put into our bodies our whole lives? Junk food, beef marinated in BGH, the toxins we allow to be pumped into our air, etc?

Secondly, depopulation: It's happening, primarily in the 'developed' world. There's nothing underhanded about it. As our standard of living has increased, as women have been able to enter the workforce and pursue careers, many have decided to have fewer children, or no children at all. So our society is greying, and soon (very soon) will be in decline. But I guess those points are just TPTB trying to hide their FEMA extermination camps, right?

I do agree that this is mostly self-serving 'hey guys, we're not so bad' BS from the elite. I mean, any of them that choose to donate will probably set them up to not pay personal income taxes for, well, a long, long time. And, yes most large charities are corrupt and ineffectual. For example I recently saw Habitat for Humanity building a brand new lakefront home in an upscale neighbourhood. Blew my mind....

BUT, the reaction to this seems like a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation.
I agree that if wages were more equitable across the board, if executives of these companies didn't get yearly bonuses many times more than 90% of the population will see in a lifetime, if the people demanded transparency and accountability from the megacorporations they empower, then we probably wouldn't need them to donate money to charities. But, if even 1/3 of the money donated does tangible good, that's better than nothing.

As for all the people that seem to think the money should be used to bail out AMERICANS that are in debt, or as one person said "600 billion equals approx. 2.4 mil per AMERICAN"... you do realize that there's a whole world beyond AMERICA, right? A whole world of people who lost their livelihoods because of the economic collapse that was triggered by your desire to have houses with a TV in each room and a dining room you only use 'on special occasions'.
The bankers may have slipped a roofie in your drink, but you probably shouldn't have agreed to leave the bar with them, handsome and charismatic as they are. They had you targeted from the moment you entered the joint, and you were too swept off your feet with 'the possibilities' to notice you were acting a fool. (speaking in generalizations, I'm well aware there are many, many americans that live within their means)

Originally posted by twitchy
Yeah I hate to say it but giving it to charities isn't the best way to help people. If they want to really make a difference, why not actually give it to people who need it. Foreclosures are up 3 fold, unemployment is skyrocketing, poverty is spreading like a statistical wildfire... why not take the billions of dollars and make a real difference? Walk into those banks and bail out homeowners or build apartments for homeless people, buy some fruit at the local farmers market with it?
I know it sounds awful because we've been lead to believe that charities are a wonderful thing, but giving this money to the charities rather than actually helping the people who need it is a bad idea IMO.

I have to agree with Twitchy on this one. Seventy percent or more of what you give to charity goes to administrative and "other" costs. Very little trickles through to those that need it.
Give it directly to those in need is the way to go.
Star for Twitchy!

Why would someone "Give to Charity" with a big public show?

Because that is all it is, a show.

They do this so they can say "See I give to charity Im a good guy".

It is not because they care or are nice. It is because they want to SWAY our OPINION of them.

Like Jesus said basically, if you pray in public to show off to everyone that you are "super religious", God will not reward you because your reward is with the people you are showing off for.

Well these people are not genuinely good people.

The fact they spend so much time promoting themselves and how "Good" they are, PROVES that they feel guilty and want to sway our opinions.

Shout out to the OP, I really like your overall positive message.
In my limited Norwegian....

Takk !!


Since this IS a conspiracy website though.

Bill Gates is in actuality no sweat on the brow laboring Entrepreneur.

Bill Gates essentially pirated his first operating system and claim to fame, MS-DOS from the developer of the original 8 Bit Disk Operating System called C/PM. His mother worked for IBM, allowing him to get his foot in the door.

Due to software being a new form of intellectual property, and not yet understood by lawyers. There weren't yet definitive laws constituting what represented copyright infringement.

Gates capitalized upon this loophole, paid a hacker $50,000. to reverse engineer C/PM's code, changed banners and logos, renamed a few commands and renamed it MS-DOS and sold it to IBM for it's new line of Personal Computers on a license by license basis working out to be considerably cheaper than the original operating system C/PM.

Naturally the majority of IBM PC customers went with the cheaper MS-DOS option, essentially putting C/PM and it's parent company, Digital Research out of business.

Anyone here see Microsoft Co Founder, Paul Allen's Yacht ?





Looks as if software Piracy CAN Pay !!





Onward to the OP's Charity topic.

The name Rothschild means "Red Shield" in German.
Look at the Logo for the Salvation Army.

There you have who founded and continues to capitalize on this charity as well as the American Red Cross.

Granted these guys are willing to move a considerable amount of their wealth to "Charity" but many here fail to realize that these contributions will most likely consist of not cash contributions, but under performing assets which they can write off as charitable contributions at inflated costs.

Saving them in having to pay income/capital gains taxes for years.

Can you say Win Win !!?


Also on a final note, interesting that the Forbes list doesn't include the richest in the world, namely the Rothschilds who own the worlds Central Banks....and subsequently control the worlds fiat currencies.


Also as to why we are so hot and heavy, and allied with the Rothschilds attack Dog, Israel in getting the Rothschilds Iranian Banks and oil wealth back from those Bearded Muslim Terrorists !!!

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In most cases I agree with you 100%... though in this instance I remain hopeful due to the fact that Gates family has been consistently active in philanthropic enterprises. In addition, the Buffets also have exhibited a refreshingly genuine giving nature over the years.
I was particulary touched by Doris Buffet. I saw her on GMA a week or so ago, where she was discussing her vow to give away every cent she has. What stood out about her was the fact that she (and her organization) reach out to help individuals and families that are suffering..... people who really need it badly and quickly.
Should anyone need a little inspiration, I would recommend checking out the details of the interview: www.examiner.com...

.. and yes! Of course these people are obscenely overpriveleged, possessing what most of us can only dream; and probably have, at best, a vapid movie viewer perspective of what life struggles really are.... BUT we should still respect the RARE instances when a good few make a valid attempt to lead by example.