gun fight with aliens at skinwalker ranch

reply to post by hounddoghowlie


Houndog, it would be great if you can remember some more detail about that thread you mentioned, it doesn't give much help in trying to search for it. Who knows there may be a connection.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Stuff like this doesn't make much sense to me though.

I just don't understand how things can get that far out of control and yet be isolated and contained.

I have always pondered this aswell, if we look at the alleged 'dulce fire fight' the base is situated miles from anywhere and security goes on for miles, alot of these 'alleged' alien bases are in the middle of nowhere, therefore, the chances of anything being leaked are extremely slim.

What about the 'alleged' helicopter crew who tried to smuggle out documents to prove ET's involvement with the structure of our political system, that was contained very quickly after the helicopter was shot down. The truth is unless its plastered over the front pages of the newspapers or broadcast on the box that controls the majority of lives around th world, th sheeple don't want to know. This is the hard truth, people want cheap gas and cheap food. Anything else is just too much hard work. Its sad!

Hi hiii,
hello again and great there is news from the ranch. Is the gunfight story the major news you talked about earlier or is there more new stuff the end of June?

Please keep us updated.

Originally posted by debris765nju
reply to post by akalepos

 

Since everything is conjecture one can only offer opinions based upon what has been offered as factual. If these entities lacked a physical presence , projectiles would pass through them with no effect. Any type of projected image. Temporal or spacial displacement and yes, even magic.

If they lack a truly physical presence, then they pose no threat and there would be no need to shoot them.

If they are physically displaced, then do you shoot left, right, or behind?

I am not one of those people who believe that there is some unobtainable special physic for the rest of the universe, and then there is ours. I think the laws of physics, if there are truly any, hold uniformly despite our own ignorance of a complete physics.

A proper body armor will help defeat FMJ. I am unsure if any electronics will really create a "shield" against fast moving objects despite what science fiction offers. Magic will not. Just ask the Ghost Dancers.

The only reason that I am going here is that the claims of the story indicate a "firefight" and list no casualities that are not human. I have heard of other weird things going on at that ranch. The stories sort of "hold together" in an abductive sort of way. It makes interesting reading, but I am unconvinced in a complete way, only partially and claims like these and the lizard man in the tree, throw me off.

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Originally posted by ahamarlin
Hi hiii,
hello again and great there is news from the ranch. Is the gunfight story the major news you talked about earlier or is there more new stuff the end of June?

Please keep us updated.

i dont want to build it up to some apolyptic level and I would by no means have any way of verifying what i likely will be mentioning next week. (dont fret its by no means earth shattering news) just trying to temper expectations and prepare for the ridicule i anticipate from the skeptics who, rightly so, will aks for proof (which i wont be able to provide).

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Hello hiii_98,

great to see you back on ATS! I always enjoyed reading your reports from the Skinwalker Ranch. In fact you were the one who led my attention to this strange place, and after all I've learned since then, I'm very thankful for your introduction into this great enigma.

I can only recommend everybody interested in looking behind the curtain of our known reality to engage with the strange story of the Skinwalker Ranch, because what has happened (and maybe is still happening) there goes much further than the question if we're alone in space or not.

After all I've learned, questions like "What is space?" do come up. It seems, as if the people who investigated the happenigs at the ranch found references, that there are aspects of reality, that aren't discovered yet. That indeed there are realms of reality right next to our own, inhabited by the most strangest beings. And that sometimes, there are crossovers.

One of the earlier posters in this thread said, he doesn't like to read fairytales.

Maybe that is exactly what you should do: To read fairytales. And of couse the works of Jaquee Vallee (en.wikipedia.org...) (especially: "Dimensions", "Confrontation" and "Revelations")

Possibly then you'll get a new idea, what "reality" really could be like.

After doing as I recommended to you, I stopped smiling mildly at people who engaged with fairytales.

Worth a listen is also the interview Dave and Johnny of the ATS.Mix-Show did with Colm Kelleher, who led the investigations of NIDS at the Skinwalker Ranch, and also their interview with George Knapp, a merited investigative journalist, who wrote (in co-operation with Colm Kelleher) the book "The hunt for the Skinwalker" (I don't know if I'm allowed to link it directly, so - you'll find it of course at your favorite online-book-store)

Here the links to both ATS.Mix-Show-podcasts:

Colm Kelleher-interview:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

direct link part 1:
www.podtrac.com...

direct link part 2:
www.podtrac.com...


George Knapp-interview:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


direct link:
www.podtrac.com...


enjoy!

And Hiii_98, keep up the good work!

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This sounds interesting;
It sounds like some kind of dimensional wormhole;
If someone like bigelow actually spent money and bought the ranch from the previous owners then there must be something there

Here is more information

Journalist George Knapp and research scientist Colm Kelleher, the authors of Hunt for the Skinwalker, shared details about a ranch in Utah where the "Gorman" (a pseudonym) family was terrorized by a series of unexplainable encounters that included UFOs of various shapes, mutilated cattle, disembodied voices, poltergeist activity and invincible creatures. The isolated location in northeastern Utah has a history of bizarre reports dating back at least 50 years, with many of the accounts being catalogued by a science teacher, Junior Hicks.

The local Native-American tribe, the Utes, referred to the ranch area as the "path of the Skinwalker," and advised avoiding this land. According to their legend, a skinwalker is an "evil sorcerer," capable of shape-shifting and turning into various animals, explained Knapp. Indeed, when the Gorman family first moved into the ranch in 1994 they encountered a wolf the size of a small horse that was impervious to bullets, even though it was struck numerous times. When they followed the creature, its tracks just suddenly disappeared, as though it had just vanished into thin air, said Kelleher.

In 1996, Tom Gorman saw a blue orb and his dogs chased the object into a dense thicket. He heard a yelping and later found three circles of dried out grass and a gooey mess, as though the animals had been vaporized, Kelleher reported. Before selling the ranch to NIDS (the research organization Kelleher was formerly associated with), the Gormans lost a total of 12 cattle that were mysteriously mutilated. Some type of intelligence, capable of manipulating matter was making its presence known in the area, the two concluded. Knapp further speculated that the ranch could be an "interdimensional portal."

January 10th, 2006

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www.skinwalkerranch.org...

links to podcasts regarding the ranch, and all websites dedicated to the topic

And Hiii_98, keep up the good work!

I really really appreciate hearing the words of encouragment from a few of you on here and surprised that you remember me. I've put ALOT on the line over the past few years with this obsession with the ranch and i'm glad to have inspired and opened the minds of a few good fellow researchers! thanks

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reply to post by hiii_98


Honor to whom honor is due!

Hiii!!!

It's good to see you back here man! I thought I saw a recent thread but unfortunately it disappeared before I could post.

The subject remains fascinating to me, and I'm looking forward to your upcoming thread. Sorry I have no answer to your questions...it is kind of a tough one.

But I am so looking forward to what you have to say. I need (we all need, a little break from the oily headline news).

Don't leave us again!

I remember this photo being discussed here on this forum and the guy who posted it didnt say anything about taking it at skinwalker ranch

www.skinwalkerranch.org...

I cant find the original thread for the image;
I just remember everyone was calling it a hang glider


Im thinking someone got the picture from this forum and posted it on the skinwalker site

reply to post by SupremeKnowledge


the photo was taken by Ryan Burns (aka thebigfoothunter here on ATS)

he was walking through a ranchers field near the ranch when this thing rose off the ground 300 yards away as if disturbed. he described it as old rusty gunmetal in color. he also said it looked like a mantaray in shape but was both biological and mechanical at the same time. It looked like a machine but moved like a creature. he said it noiselessly glided through the air and over a ridgeline out of view past him. he managed to only snap off this shot.... which i enhanced. Never during my tenure around the ranch have i ever seen a manta ray like ...entity/vehicle and was not with Burns at the time of this photo.




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Originally posted by Rhain
Very interesting thread I must say first of all. I like to research these topics and found a interview given by Mr. Bigelow on June 12th.

I am still currently reading this article and trying to put some facts to claims.
Interview

This might be a little OT, but I read your link and just thought about something.

We've got:

Robert Bigelow, head of NIDS, warning up that UFO's might not such good and benevolent folks.

Stephen Hawking warning the same.

And the Vatican.

And we've still got people jumping up and down wetting their pants waiting for this to happen.

I think we need to be very cautious, and a bit concerned, personally.
Same with Interdimensional creatures. The Vatican seems to know about these guys, too.

Read it right here on ATS folks!

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting

Originally posted by Rhain
Very interesting thread I must say first of all. I like to research these topics and found a interview given by Mr. Bigelow on June 12th.

I am still currently reading this article and trying to put some facts to claims.
Interview

This might be a little OT, but I read your link and just thought about something.

We've got:

Robert Bigelow, head of NIDS, warning up that UFO's might not such good and benevolent folks.

Stephen Hawking warning the same.

And the Vatican.

And we've still got people jumping up and down wetting their pants waiting for this to happen.

I think we need to be very cautious, and a bit concerned, personally.
Same with Interdimensional creatures. The Vatican seems to know about these guys, too.

Read it right here on ATS folks!

Maybe its all part of the conspiracy for the weaponization of space that has been rumored about for the past couple years

Originally posted by debris765nju
reply to post by hiii_98

 

s914.photobucket.com... hey hiii_98, great to see your name on the board again. I have not heard of this woman nor her hidden weapon. As for the "gunfight" we know that bullets are ineffective, so the casualties were on the human side.

How do we know this? We don't even know who or what the aliens are, or even if they exist. I believe they do but we cannot claim that we actually know anything.

reply to post by SupremeKnowledge


Maybe. Or maybe they intend to do us harm. We have something they want. Water. We are, afterall, the water planet.

Just a thought.

IMO our consciousness is far more desirable than water to them. Again that is puuuuure speculation on my part... i have honestly no clue their intensions or what "mission" they have to perform in the Utinah region.. Not to be religious about any of this but their may be a relgious aspect to this phenomona in relation to motive. Again just a guess.

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Great thread hiii_98! S & F

I will be following your updates and web-site.

The Ranch is a spooky place with a lot of crazy activity going on. Seems to be rife with inter-dimensional beings and creatures.

Keep up the good work and the excursions, my guess is your best film captures are yet to come.

my guess is your best film captures are yet to come.

every year i get better and better, i'm extremely excited about this year.

mysteriousuniverse.org...

wonderful little article which may help bring some of you up to speed regarding bigelows involvements over the years.

please take special notice at the bottom comment by someone named "Brandon"

Yeah, well the flaky dabbler has pulled the plug again. Apparently the DOD decided not to pick up the check for the Gov'ts next fiscal year investigations into UFOs. The entire crew of scientists and investigators were kicked to the curb! Given a few weeks severance and kicked out. I guess they'll pull the plug on their HBCC UFO web page to. Only guy still standing besides RTB is Dr. Kelleher.

He really summed up anything i might say next week.... BAASS seems like a ship full of holes lately, new ones springing each day. Again reread the quote above, it if were me i would believe this word for word, actually there are more details than i was aware of.

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