For Christ's sake, you people ... it's just a bloody oil spill

reply to post by Ulala


I don't know who you are but this is not "just an oil spill". As a resident of Louisiana this is effecting the lives of at least 300,000 people who depend on the Gulf as the the means to provide for their families. This is not " just an oil spill". Are you so sure that drilling the relief wells is gonna make this leak stop? Do you have information that this is indeed going to happen? Why do you say in five years this is all gonna be cleaned up and everything will be back to normal. It is still not "normal" in Prince William Sound after the Exxon Valdez dumped a tenth of the oil being leaked in the Gulf. I don't know why you want to generalize those here on ATS as having too much time on our hands and assume that we aren't volunteering our time to help clean this mess up. Are there other places that suffer much more than us Americans? Yes and who gives more money to the world to help then the U.S.? So before you start saying this "is just an oil spill" you need to get your facts and stop assuming this is just gonna go away in a few years. You don't know and most of us Americans don't need to get over ourselves but sounds like maybe you do!!!!!

reply to post by tsurfer2000h

tsurfer2000h - surfer eeh? Looks like we won't be surfing the gulf much more. Sad, very sad.

The problem with the Nigeria issue is that some of the damage was done by US companies. But once again, this is out of the control of the majority of US citizens. We actually have less of a voice than foreign nations - IMO.

WOW THIS COULD POSSIBLY BE THE MOST IGNORANT THREAD I HACE SEEN TO DATE .

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TRULY IN HUMAN AND WITHOUT EMPATHY

while I feel the OP is downplaying the severity of the incident I think the OP makes a rather accurate point about how little reaction or constant attention pollution and environmental degradation receive when it occurs elsewhere. There are truly disturbing occurences that countries such as Canada, Britain, China, Russia, America etc. are responsible for and I feel it is a valid observation.

That said, americans, ignorant or unsympathetic, are not the only ones most concerned with their own nation. The spill may actually awaken people to the concerns because they now have an experience in environmental damage from big business.

Either way, you raise a good point though I feel the tone could have been more diplomatic, personally.

Cheers

The author has his head in the sand. This is NO ordinary oil spill, and the American Citizens should be afraid. VERY AFRAID!!!
I said this was huge from day ONE.

I will repeat what I told all my friends:

This is NOT an accident.
This leak will NOT be stopped.
This WILL lead to mass evacuations.
This WILL lead to Martial Law (At Least in some areas)
There is the potential for acid rain due to the COREXIT being used & could destroy 1/4 of all American crops and possibly eco system.
This event COULD trigger a Financial COLLAPSE.
This could collapse the Gulf Sea floor and lead to a MASSIVE tsunami.

THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER OIL SPILL!!! The BP employee who said there is an atmosphere of doom is completely believeable. Those in the know are petrified.

reply to post by Ulala


What's with the bashing of Americans? Your post is nothing but a hypocritical statement which can be applied to ANYONE who uses oil. not just Americans. Now with that said I can go on to say your a racist bigot being you only mention Americans, but forgot to mention yourself. These hate threads need to be removed ASAP. I'm sure any post I made calling EU a piece of Hezbola wouldn't see the light of day. How dare you say "It's just a oil spill". You sound like like the CEO of BP"I'm glad it happened here and not over there".

I think we need to do to you, what we want to do to the BP and partys who allowed this to happen.

MAKE THEM SWIM IN A OIL PLUME AND LET THEM CHOKE ON IT, Like the Animals.

Oh and you forgot to mention Mr.OP. The thousands of people who are now out of work because of this. Tourism has already dropped 70%, any traffic to the gulf coast is only done by people who want to help.

Isn't it an ATS rule not to post racist comments? Well if this post is allowed then I'm allowed to call the OP Yuppie Scum, yeah Your a dirty Yuppie.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by SneakAPeek]

reply to post by Ulala


This is the dumbest thread on the web written by the least compassionate person on the web.

Go back to reading about the "Lockness Monster found on Google Maps" or "the Conspiracy Chicks," if you don't like reading about what will be the biggest natural disaster ever.

reply to post by Ulala


Did you say the leak stopped? If it stopped then I can see us fixing this problem and it not being to much to worry about. However, I don't recall hearing or reading anywhere that said this leak stopped. Now, what I did read was that if you try and turn on the pressure valves that it would cause leak to stop, but the pressure would back up and spread through the pipes causing them to start rupturing and making the seafloor start to fall apart. There's a link here in ATS that talks about scientists talking about it.Hmm...Don't recall that as an option in any of the other oil spills, so I guess that already makes it a "unique" case doesn't it? AKA, if you're not getting it's not your average spill, but constant leak that until it stops is going to be a major issue and should be the concern of people until it stops...just my opinion anyways.

People have lost there living, there way of life, been hospitalized, more then you can possibly think of animals dying. It's way more then just a few dirty beaches and a few animals dying! When people like you don't care about something this big and say the rest of the world had your mentality we would have already destroyed ourselves by now! If you don't have any good/new news to post don't post at all!

hmmm..you say we wouldn't care if it happened in a "third world country" or any other country for that matter. Yet, here you are not caring that an oil spill is devastating a very fragile ecosystem in another country.

I think you get my point. Go back to living out your life unaffected by the oil spill and leave us to freak out about it.

Also, regarding the Prez's rhetoric. I found plenty of it in yours. I can point it all out if you want me to.

No, if this happened in a 3rd world country or some place without the News Media or angry citizens with rights, no it wouldn't be televised or be getting the attention. And yes, it happened in America and we are angry. Trust me I'm just as angry at the b*tch soccer mom rich asses with there SUV's as you are! But what can we do here? We get run over by the 1% of the population who is rich and gets to have awards shows to award themselves for being rich. hahaha. A great society America has turned into, while American Soldiers and innocent civilians die daily over a senseless war and no one cares or gives a damn. Only if it affects them directly in America do Americans grow balls and stand up. If it doesn't affect them, then most people ignore it and say, "Oh well, I'm going to go shopping, hehehehe!" People are to scared to stand up against there government in America, because now your labeled a terrorist if you stand up.

Originally posted by Divinorumus
Just heard the following: BP contractor is killed at Dutch refinery after wall collapses, spokesman for oil giant says. No news link yet.

Found a link: BP Contractor Killed in Construction Accident at Dutch Refinery

Pretty dangerous company. You folks that are still filling up BP might want to start wearing hardhats before pulling into one of their filling stations, cause folks are still dying because of this company.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by Divinorumus]

How ignorant, refineries or any chemical processing plant is a dangerous place to work, it has nothing to do with BP.

reply to post by Ulala


You obviously don't get the severity of the possible consequences here. The oil and lethal gases spewing from the gulf of Mexico will eventually enter into the gulf stream and head for Europe and then northwest Africa and then who knows where.

If it was "just an oil spill" then you might have some valid comments - it is however a rupture in the earth's crust under 5,000 feet of water that will not be readily contained and has no known limit.

Worse, the deadly gases (benzene, Hydrogen sulfide, et al) are registering hundreds to thousands of times their lethal limits. Without containment of the problem these will continue to spew into the atmosphere, move with the jet stream and end up in your back yard.

I suggest you do a little research other than American mainstream media to get your information.

More than a spill.. more like a gusher than can't be stopped. If you had this happen on your coastline you would be singing a different tune.

Originally posted by Ulala
reply to post by redeyedwonder

 

It's not a senseless complaint to any extent whatever. Come back to this forum in a few years time when the latest oil spill happens in some third world nation ... start a thread about it ... your thread will die within a few posts. Your thoughtful contribution about the plight of some poor people will largely go unread, your thorough examination about the causes of the spill, the role of corporations will be treated with total indifference.

No-one will care. Because it doesn't affect USA.

That's a terrible indictment about Americans, perhaps people in general. They don't care about what's happening in someone else's backyard.

LOL! You gave me the biggest laugh just there. I could say the exact same about you and your thread. Since it isn't happening in Finland, or "Northern Europe", you really don't care about it when it's happening in someone else's backyard. Talk about hypocrisy.

Since this is a USA based website populated overwhelmingly by USA readers, obviously almost everything talked about here is from an American perspective and relates to the concerns of Americans, not Northern Europeans. If you want to discuss things from your neck of the woods, start your own website where you can talk about cheese and sheep.

shouldnt this be moved to the RANT section of BTS, like all the other threads taht arent overwhelmingly alarmist and caliming the world will end form a small oil leak?

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by Chadwickus

 

Imagine if a company called USAPetrolium, had the same accident off the shores of the UK. destroying the Cornish Coast line We Brits would be burning American flags and effiggies of Obama. There would be so much anti American sentiment compared with what us Brits have recieved.

I was listening to an interview with a park ranger from Valdez, who said on a hot day you can still smell the oil that came from the Exxon spill which was nearly 20 years ago.

Just imagine the lasting effects of this disaster. I believe the disaster deserves its own section in ATS.

We did have a disaster, on a oil rig named 'Piper Alpha'. Which was headed by an American oil company. No fuss at the time. Look it up.

You'd be speaking German (or Russian) if it weren't for America. Ok, that out of the way...I believe, (correct me if I'm wrong) America is usually #1 in humanitarian aid all over the world (third world and otherwise) from the Haiti quake to the Indonesian tsunami, to AIDs in Africa.
Our newfound "victim status" is indeed newfound. Usually we are rescuing the world. You think you could find a little compassion in your heart for the people affected? They're people, you know.

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Originally posted by Chadwickus
I wonder how much attention this would get if it occurred anywhere else but America...

I believe America would be the first country to respond and offer Million$ in relief efforts.
OP, This is not a spill, but an ongoing leak spewing out thousands of gallons of oil daily.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by HeluvaStorm]