Seattle officer punches girl in face during jaywalking stop

reply to post by airspoon


Make no mistake, this woman commited multiple criminal acts of varying degreees. She decided to escalate the situation, she decided to take the fight to the officer, and thus she decided her ultimate fate.

The moment the second woman entered the fray, all bets are off in my opinion. The officer could not and did not know if the second attacker was armed, and for that matter, in the heat of the moment in a spinning fracas...how can the cop tell if any bystander is also in league with them? To take it even a step further, with all those cameras extended out toward the fight, how can the officer's now spinning peripheral vision determine if those are cameras or knives or guns or whatever.

Thankfully the officer never drew his gun, although he would have been within his right to.

I wonder two things...

1. Would such a stink have arisen had the officer tased her as oppossed to hitting her?

2. Would such a stink have arisen had the officer been a woman?

reply to post by vimanarider


She committed several criminal acts according to a tyrannical legal system but according to common law, it was the officer who committed the criminal acts. Remember, everything that Hitler did was legal too.

--airspoon

Originally posted by Izarith

Originally posted by bruxfinn

Originally posted by unityemissions
Two words : Race Wars

This is absurd,

There does not have to be any race wars at all, did you folks not read my post?

All Cops have to do is only do these things to White people and every one wins.

1.) Cops get their penis envy out of their system by using extremely excessive force on people.

2.) White people get to watch the videos and give their technical view and Bash the victim for not respecting their Nazi Master.

3.) And blacks stop getting abused....

Everyone lives happily ever after as long as no dogs or cats are shot, kicked or punched.

It's that simple folks. If we all work together we can get though this.

wow..that is probably the stupidest post i have ever read on ATS

Did no one else notice the beginning of the video? Sounds to me like she is saying "Get the f*** off my neck, Get the f*** off my neck, what are you doing". As the video pulls them into your view you can clearly see the officer has 1 arm out reached grabbing the womans neck. You can see her break away and he then brings both arms up and goes toward either her shoulders or neck

Ok. I'm pretty sure 1 hand on the neck is not an approved method of restraining a person. Neither is 2 arms on shoulders or neck for that mater, My father being an officer, I can say 100% they are trained in wrist control.

You can see how the officer is handling her. Clearly is not correct in any sense. At one point another man actually has to say something to him about him 1, slamming her into car repeatedly, 2 almost ripping her shirt off exposing her breasts.

Am I really the only one who see's him with his hand on her neck in first 10 seconds?


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reply to post by airspoon


Tyrannical in whose eyes? Yours? The woman who feels law does not apply to her?

I guess when in doubt, conjur Hitler.

Originally posted by elevatedone
I see a woman resisting.

I see another woman interfering with the officer
And placing her hands on him.

Now, should he have struck her, eh, in the heat of the
Moment, maybe he feared that all the people present were
Going to attack him? We don’t know.

They could have been pepper sprayed or tazed, but it wouldn’t matter
Everyone would still jump all over this claiming the officer was out of line.

AMEN...
One single cop surrounded by 10 to 15 people trying to make an arrest alone, it has to be pretty hairy for him.
And all the meanwhile hes shouting "dont struggle, dont strugle". and what does she do??? does she comply??? NO.
Cause and effect.
And the woman in the pink desrved it.
You try and stop an arrest and they're gonna open a whole can of whoop ass on you..she was just plain, good old fashion stupid.

reply to post by Ciphor


Wrist compliance methods are generally not taught anymore; neither are most pain compliance methods. Too many people were getting broken bones and it's too much of a liability for the PD to deal with.

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reply to post by airspoon


Godwin's Law at its finest, I see...

2nd line.

Originally posted by Highground
reply to post by airspoon

 

Godwin's Law at its finest, I see...

2nd line.

I guess I wasn't the only one that picked up on that.

Can someone explain to me why it is a crime to cross the road?

Regardless of what the women did or didn't do, that is a seriously anal cop for doing all that for people crossing the road....

reply to post by stumason


It is not a crime to cross the road...it is a crime to cross the road where and when you are not supposed to. Jaywalkling laws are in place for a reason...keeping pedestrians and motorists safe...from each other.

reply to post by Ciphor


Yes I heard when she said that, and that's why I watched it several times. His arm was outstretched, but you can not see that he is "grabbing her neck". His hand could have been on her shoulder, on the back of her shoulder, or on the back of her neck. Just because his hand was in that area doesn't necessarily mean that he was grabbing her neck.

Now did you notice that when she was saying get off my neck, that the guy with the camera panned up for just a minute so you couldn't really get a good look and all of the sudden pointed the camera down so that all you could see for a minute was the ground ?


You're father being an officer should mean that you are acutely aware of the dangers they can face and just how quickly that incident could have turned deadly for that cop, and possibly others had they gotten ahold of his gun.

reply to post by HistoryIsOnlyHisStory


watched the video multiple times, and its obvious to me that both women were in the wrong...

the first one was resisting arrest from the get go, and the girl he punched assaulted him the moment she jumped in between the two...

even the guy in the ballcap that was trying to hold the girl in pink back could see that she was getting in over her head.

as for the cemeraman, ARE YOU SERIOUS???

the cop did NOTHING wrong, he had multiple aggressive people surrounding him, and he used necessary force to subdue and arrest someone that obviously was RESISTING


edit for spelling

[edit on 16-6-2010 by kalisdad]

reply to post by vimanarider


Odd...

Surely it is down the pedestrian to decide where and when it is safe for them to cross? Got to love the irony of not being able to make the decision in the "land of the free" of where and when to cross the road.

In the UK, it is a matter of common law that on every road bar a Motorway, a pedestrian has precedence.

Seems somewhat overly-prescriptive to have Police waste their time on monitoring how people cross a road. Aren't there real criminals to catch?

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by vimanarider

 

Odd...

Surely it is down the pedestrian to decide where and when it is safe for them to cross? Got to love the irony of not being able to make the decision in the "land of the free" of where and when to cross the road.

In the UK, it is a matter of common law that on every road bar a Motorway, a pedestrian has precedence.

Seems somewhat overly-prescriptive to have Police waste their time on monitoring how people cross a road. Aren't there real criminals to catch?

The problem is people lack common sense and walk into busy intersectiosn causing accidents that lead to more than the death of the crosser. Thats why jaywalking laws exist.

Originally posted by stumason
Can someone explain to me why it is a crime to cross the road?

Regardless of what the women did or didn't do, that is a seriously anal cop for doing all that for people crossing the road....

as a professional driver of over 10 years, I can say first hand that people are ignorant when it comes to crossing the road.

jaywalking laws are in place for a reason.

Overall, there were an estimated 254.4 million registered passenger vehicles in the United States
en.wikipedia.org...

while most cops ignore jaywalking as a passive/victimless crime, it seems Seattle holds it in a high regard. it is extremely dangerous for both pedestrians and motorists when people walk or run out into traffic. what makes matters worse is the fact that you can SEE the pedestrian walkway right next to where the altercation is taking place... they were just too lazy to walk the extra 50 yards to use it


[edit on 16-6-2010 by kalisdad]
Spelling is not my strongest subject lol
[edit on 16-6-2010 by kalisdad]

[edit on 16-6-2010 by kalisdad]

Originally posted by Highground
reply to post by airspoon

 

Godwin's Law at its finest, I see...

2nd line.

It was actually a quasi-quote by Martin Luther King Jr.:
“Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal.”

I'm just speaking reality. Just because something is law, doesn't make it right. Hitler's actions were legal too. I'm not drawing a comparison to the situation discussed in the thread and therefore it's not Godwin's Law. It was an anology to express a certain viewpoint.

--airspoon



Edited to add: "Jr."

[edit on 16-6-2010 by airspoon]

I don't feel bad for the idiot. She walked up and shoved the officer in the middle of him trying to arrest that girl. According to a police officer friend of mine - at the point in which that fat asshole stepped in with her "typical" attitude and shoved him, he had every right to draw his firearm.

So - go ahead and cry because the dumbass decided to shove a police officer in the middle of an arrest.

I thought it was funny and actually watched it about 23 times.

Cheers!

reply to post by AndrewTB


Do people really lack common sense or are you just not teaching people how to look in either direction? Since the UK introduced the "Green Cross Code" back in the 1970's for kiddy-winks, deaths by pedestrians have fell by around 70% in the past 40 years.

Like I said, seems somewhat over-reactive to have laws in place for something so trivial and to have the Police enforce it like she was injecting heroin in front of a school...

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by vimanarider

 

Odd...

Surely it is down the pedestrian to decide where and when it is safe for them to cross? Got to love the irony of not being able to make the decision in the "land of the free" of where and when to cross the road.

In the UK, it is a matter of common law that on every road bar a Motorway, a pedestrian has precedence.

Seems somewhat overly-prescriptive to have Police waste their time on monitoring how people cross a road. Aren't there real criminals to catch?

What does "land of the free" have to do with the discussion of roadway safety? Sounds like a Brit with a closet dislike/jealousy of the US. I am sure that even UK law states that a pedestrian may have precedence up until the point that he/she causes a potentially harmful situation to others. If I am not mistaken...isn't it illegal in London now, I know a year or so ago, the city government was trying to criminalize jaywalking.