FAA Pressured to Open US Skies to Drones

Originally posted by zerbot565
all you need is a tesla coil and youll down these flying styrofoam coffy mugs with ease ,

i bet you at the same time as drones become a reality the technology to prevent drones from detecting you leaps forward aswell ,

technology is just as good as it get if you only look at one side of the coin ,

but before any real concern pops up in my books they need to prefect the batteries these styrofoam boxes use , its one thing to hover in mid air with a camera for a couple of hours to acturly have a thing flying with ffa regulated lights , weapons and cameras of all sorts not to mention recivers/senders and and what not gadgets,

its one thing to have a uav flying at near mach 3 around the world taking pitcures but its an other thing to have a flying "survailance drone" for more then a couple of hours that acturly is worth the cost ,

might aswell just use stationary blips with motion detectors and all the fancy stuff youd want , heck of a lot cheeper and its a better platform in general.

Actually the global hawks are pretty sophisticated and can be heavily armed.

[edit on 15-6-2010 by hawkiye]

reply to post by hawkiye


at a cost of 35 million you must ask your self if that money would be better spent on man power then a UAV ,

besides , i have a friend who builds the other version of these,
the 4 stroke diesel engien version, the cost efficient version so to say ,
and the size alone of these things makes it practicly impossible for them to fly with any grace in a city , its the size of a cessna and has a cruise speed three times of it.

it would be like playing baseball with a "hand egg"

Originally posted by zerbot565
reply to post by hawkiye

 

at a cost of 35 million you must ask your self if that money would be better spent on man power then a UAV ,

besides , i have a friend who builds the other version of these,
the 4 stroke diesel engien version, the cost efficient version so to say ,
and the size alone of these things makes it practicly impossible for them to fly with any grace in a city , its the size of a cessna and has a cruise speed three times of it.

it would be like playing baseball with a "hand egg"

Since when has cost effectiveness or even logic and reason ever played a part in the decisions of these traitors?

[edit on 15-6-2010 by hawkiye]

reply to post by Le Colonel

"They Live" with Rowdy Roddy Piper comes to mind. Remember the scene with the floating spy in the sky and the the policemen who were there at the drop of a pin?

reply to post by hawkiye


hehe i hear ya ,

whats mind boggling in its own sence is that imagen 100´s if not 1000´s of these cessna sized things clogging up the skies , i mean the double moral of global warming and all that is thrown out the window in a jiffy when it comes to survailance and population control , not to mention that who on earth has that kind of money in the first place to spend ,

Pilot less aircraft is just the thing for management why wouldn't
the Illuminati what to use what they spent our money on for
war money profits.
Drones developed during a war now just like aircraft in WWII.
However there was more than aircraft flight technology developed in WWII.
In fact the inventor told of such pilot less ships and made one.
The drones will get better and passengers will ultimately board.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Greetings Proto...

Glad to see that you continue the quest of the sangraal or whatever the heck we wanna say. The hero's journey, etc...

I made a thread a while back, found here at ATS... about conditioning our next generation of children into accepting a police state. The article in the thread particularly references drones that are armed with tasers that are to be used for crowd control.

Link to sourced article.

Read that article.

Things are happening very quickly.

Veni, Vidi, Vici...





[edit on 6/30/2010 by Josephus23]

How about we give this new domestic-use technology a catchy marketable name to encourage investors.

Something like 'SkyNet' perhaps?




[edit on 30-6-2010 by timski]

The feds have been using UAVs for domestic surveillance ops for nearly 20 months now.

They don't really need FAA approval, except for high altitude ops.

The domestic drones use secret pulse-jet technology with stealthy electronic noise suppression. Engines with no moving parts, consume only a fraction of the fuel and can stay aloft for several hours longer than those being used overseas. They can literally see through walls and buildings, listen to any conversation. Monitor all electronic communications and more!

One of these can be circling over your location at night and you would likely never know it.

But hey, I could be wrong.

Maybe they were just birds, and I had too much coffee?

reply to post by Fractured.Facade


I understand the personal belief of things strange and seemingly irrational.
I saw the black helicopter's at a Phish show in West Palm in 1996 while on Owlsley's best....
If you understand at all what I mean.

But the truth is that not only is the possibility of what you say a...

well... a possibility, but it is a probability.

We are headed into a police state. We are growing as a larger organism. A whole. We are becoming aware of ourselves and we are becoming afraid.

Don't be afraid.

Stop being afraid.

reply to post by Josephus23


It's not fear or paranoia, but first hand knowledge I have and I am not at all afraid, those who are using these as a tool in a broad investigation that I have helped facilitate are gathering a wealth of evidence for future use.

Can't hide anymore!

-Off topic-

It is really nice up here in central Pennsylvania, 67 degrees, sunny, light breeze, stunningly beautiful.

Hopefully it will be like this in New York tomorrow.

reply to post by Fractured.Facade


That is incredibly interesting... that you have actually been involved in an investigation using said equipment.

I am supposing that this was a private sector job, but for some reason the equipment is classified?

Maybe I am missing something here.... But I must ask you one question.

Regardless of whether or not what you are saying is factual, let's assume so.

Why would you participate in an activity that so blatantly infringes on the individual's right to privacy, which was the idea that formed the entire basis for the writing of the US Constitution?

See Protestant Revolution and the 3rd Amendment to the Constitution.

Do you feel as if having a value system that puts privacy as its core value is perhaps outmoded or maybe just a bit outdated?

Do you feel that this fascist system of total information awareness is inevitable and that you might as well make the best of what you can out of a bad situation?

Maybe all of these are wrong, but your story intrigues me.

[edit on 7/2/2010 by Josephus23]

reply to post by Josephus23


Don't assume anything, especially that anyone will ever respect yours or others personal privacy.

I did it because I had to.

I know and have said so because it pisses them off.

Do you want the schematics?

Test flight data?

How about some surveillance video and images?

Wikileaks would like that stuff too.

They need to get rid of a major mole infestation.



My apologies to you for my intentionally cryptic messages.

reply to post by Fractured.Facade


No reasons for apologies, and I do 100% believe that the eschaton has been immanentized.

I do not expect privacy to be respected by institutions of government any longer.
I mean heck...
We haven't really had access to true privacy since the "ratification" of the 14th Amendment.

Thank you for answering my question.

You had to do it; however...
I am guessing that you were more or less forced to do it, and your tone of quasi-remorseless sarcasm leads me to assume that you are not too happy with the situation.

Cheers mate.