NASA sets up shop off the British coast, accidentally nukes a hole in the atmosphere

Do the brits blame their own government, and force them to pay, for allowing NASA to be there in the first place?

Do they put all the blame and responsibility (legally, financially, etc..) on NASA's shoulders?

Or do they turn to the country of NASA's origin, america, where all of NASA's money and resources come from?

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Obviously america as a whole has more money than one of it's big corporations/sectors, and even if they did choose to solely blame the company involved for such a major catastrophe, it wouldn't take long to use up all their money... and then what?

Blaming their own government for allowing it to happen makes sense until you realize that taking money away from your own government doesn't take long to equal taking money from yourself, and they may have "ok'd the hit" but they weren't the ones to "pull the trigger..."

Clearly the most reasonable thing to do is go straight to the country of the offenders origin. America is responsible for NASA, so in effect would have to foot the bill for any and all damages that apply, obviously dealing with nasa in the process.

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If you haven't noticed by now (yikes) - This is an analogy related to the BP gulf disaster.

Why is it that americans are arguing over how to punish their own government, or how to punish the british corporation, or over how WE'RE going to have to pay for all this, instead of putting all the responsibility on the offenders country of origin, who obviously have more money and more incentive to clear their reputation and right their wrong?

It's just crazy how people act like bickering over the bad guys (us gov. and the oil companies) is going to lead to a good solution...

This isn't "Brit Bashing," it's common sense



Disclaimer: This is a hypothetical analogy.
BP, a british company blew a disastrous hole in the earth off of america's coast.
In my scenario an american company blows a disastrous hole in the earth's atmosphere over britain.



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Im finding it difficult to capture your point, could you maybe give a little bit of direction, interesting though.

NASA stands for wha ??!!!

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Originally posted by alaskan

If you haven't noticed by now (yikes) - This is an analogy related to the BP gulf disaster.

Why is it that americans are arguing over how to punish their own government, or how to punish the british corporation, or over how WE'RE going to have to pay for all this, instead of putting all the responsibility on the offenders country of origin, who obviously have more money and more incentive to clear their reputation and right their wrong?

It's just crazy how people act like bickering over the bad guys (us gov. and the oil companies) is going to lead to a good solution...

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Could you provide a link to the story or is this something that needs to be moved into the HOAX files.


Maybe the MODs should take a look at this one?

My point is that I haven't heard a single thing about punishing Britain in any way, even though they're the ones responsible for the parties responsible for the gulf oil gushers...

...except for the crap about some people acting like we're offending the country by being upset with them.

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by alaskan

 

Could you provide a link to the story or is this something that needs to be moved into the HOAX files.


Maybe the MODs should take a look at this one?

This is sarcasm, right? You can't be that dense...

hy·po·thet·i·cal   [hahy-puh-thet-i-kuhl] –adjective Also, hy·po·thet·ic

1. assumed by hypothesis; supposed: a hypothetical case.
2. of, pertaining to, involving, or characterized by hypothesis: hypothetical reasoning.
3. given to making hypotheses.
4. Logic . a. (of a proposition) highly conjectural; not well supported by available evidence. b. (of a proposition or syllogism) conditional.

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I think its been mentioned that its actually a multinational owned company, which will spread the blame rather than focusing the punishment on one party.

Ok, I chose NASA for this analogy because it stands for North American Space Agency.

BP stands for British Petroleum.

Multinational you say? That means more countries that could cover the costs and help with cleanup?

Alaskan

What BP and the oil mining / extraction industry has caused in the GoM is a disgrace, as EDIS puts it ' an ecological disaster'.

I can understand why people's temper's are running high and the need for a 'villian' is huge... I personally believe that this will severly damage BP as a compnay and therefore all associated ''business interests'', both British and American with it..... remember alot of overfed, fat American pensioners who have retired early from their corporate high lifes will have some of their 'pension pots' affected by BP going down !!

BUT something is starting to GRATE me HERE .... namely Transocean and Haliburton are ALSO GUILTY here too !!!!

I want everyone, wether British, American, Government Official or bar tender to start rtealising that it is not only BP's fault........ IT IS a CORPORATION and Government REGULATION FAILING here !!!!!

Come ON...

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I know and i know.

I guess before everyone pays for the recovery of this situation, i see your point now, somebody has to accept responsibity.

I dont know what the poster above me was on about.

How much stake does the american goverment hold in BP? Rothchilds??

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Originally posted by alaskan
My point is that I haven't heard a single thing about punishing Britain in any way, even though they're the ones responsible for the parties responsible for the gulf oil gushers...

...except for the crap about some people acting like we're offending the country by being upset with them.

Why do you want to punish the UK when North Koresa torpedoed the Oil Rig!

Blame Little Kimmy, that's why Obama sent Special Forces to all the other Oil Rigs in the area because this one was attacked!

Originally posted by alaskan
Ok, I chose NASA for this analogy because it stands for North American Space Agency.

Hmmmm, I thought NASA stood for National Aeronautics and Space Administration. :/

en.wikipedia.org...

www.nasa.gov...

But more to the point ... I am also very suprised at how little control the U.S. Government has been exercising over the situation in the Gulf. I guess when/if BP goes belly up, the Gov't will have to step up.

Ha, you learn something new every day.

Alaskan

In your signature 'this is what i do for FUN' - Fun relates to your 8000th atempt ?? What's with the Turtle at 0.36/7 secs ????? I don't get it..

Good to see your hobby means your not burning oil !

Originally posted by alaskan
My point is that I haven't heard a single thing about punishing Britain in any way, even though they're the ones responsible for the parties responsible for the gulf oil gushers...

...except for the crap about some people acting like we're offending the country by being upset with them.

Why would we be punished?
The only people that should be punished are the people within BP that allowed this to happen.
Its not britians fault. Its the fault of a few very greedy, disgusting individuals

Originally posted by alaskan
Ok, I chose NASA for this analogy because it stands for North American Space Agency.

BP stands for British Petroleum.

Multinational you say? That means more countries that could cover the costs and help with cleanup?

For the record BP ownership is 40% British, and 39% American (a mere 1% difference).

Significantly, amongst that shareholding, there are 7 British individuals, but 14 American individuals holding BP shares.
Source

Notably, both BP's Managing Director (Robert Dudley) and Chief Financial Officer (Byron Grote) are Americans.

Source

I would wager it is US influence pulling the strings here, NOT British...

Weather your dumping depleted Uranium in Iraq ,agent Orange in Vietnam, methyl isocyanate in Bhopal ,or Oil in Nigeria America never pays for it's environmental crimes why should we? Take the money out of BP's American division or let them getaway with it like you did with EXXON.BP has enough American assets to pay for a spill that was for American oil for the American people that was drilled by American contractors under crap American regulations.

Originally posted by GW8UK
Why would we be punished?
The only people that should be punished are the people within BP that allowed this to happen.
Its not britians fault. Its the fault of a few very greedy, disgusting individuals

Ok, so bankrupt BP and throw them all in jail. Then what? Will the situation just 'be over' then? Where do we turn if there are still huge costs?

Originally posted by PurpleDog UK
In your signature 'this is what i do for FUN' - Fun relates to your 8000th atempt ?? What's with the Turtle at 0.36/7 secs ????? I don't get it..

When I left the edge of the ledge, I tweaked my bike weird and it just looked stupid, so I covered it up. Funny thing is, the turtle was mine/my girlfriends at the time, and when it pops on the screen is exactly the moment the word "lover" is sung. Never occurred to me until I was reminiscing years later...

And by 8000th attempt I meant how many tries it took to get the video together, and I still messed it up.

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Originally posted by fieldfly
For the record BP ownership is 40% British, and 39% American (a mere 1% difference)...

Great points, but it still leaves 'them' somewhat accountable, as apposed to the current situation where people are scolded for speaking of them in any negative way.

ok so a few people say its the fault of american policies; well if thats true its the british peoples fault for being complacent in the choices of business they partake; do they not act impersonal and view an encroachment as an offense?if america went to war with the british it would be a crazy show.