BP Official Admits to Damage Beneath the Sea Floor

Originally posted by PayMeh
You guys are missing what this means. The Diamond rig is leaking too. The admittance of this means worst case scenario has happened - the oil pocket depressurized and the atmospheric pressure of the water on the earths mantle has cracked the layer of sea bed above the oil reserve. It's collapsing under the weight of the water since they weren't able to pump sea water into the reserve to maintain the pressure equilibrium.

OH, I think I understand.

A diagram would help.

Originally posted by theability
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman

 

This is far worse than they are letting on.

I agree. And to support this, I couldn't find a recent satellite image of the Gulf online.

Hiding the real deal are they? Of course!

I know, I've been looking too. I've been trying to see how far it's gotten - not on the coasts but in the loop. I haven't been able to find a single one that's recent.

Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
I don't think that there any chance, whatsoever, that this is not what has happened. This is far worse than they are letting on.

Well at this point then and maybe it should have been asked sooner....how big is this oil pool? Lake Erie? Lake Okeechobee size? If unchecked what are ideas about how long it will leak at this rate?

From what I've read in a few threads, Mt Everest will fit in it

Originally posted by PayMeh
You guys are missing what this means. The Diamond rig is leaking too. The admittance of this means worst case scenario has happened - the oil pocket depressurized and the atmospheric pressure of the water on the earths mantle has cracked the layer of sea bed above the oil reserve. It's collapsing under the weight of the water since they weren't able to pump sea water into the reserve to maintain the pressure equilibrium.

I think you are right with this. The pressure of the water on the seabed down there is around 2,200psi. That is 316,800 pounds of weight for every one square foot area. Any change in pressure below it could certainly cause the seabed to fracture.

reply to post by Iamonlyhuman

I know, I've been looking too. I've been trying to see how far it's gotten - not on the coasts but in the loop. I haven't been able to find a single one that's recent.

I tell you no one, no single source has anything recent, they are all like a month old, NOAA, NASA.

Even the the local weather radar, doesn't show the area around the spill, no nothing!

What is going on?

reply to post by NuclearPaul

I think you are right with this. The pressure of the water on the seabed down there is around 2,200psi. That is 316,800 pounds of weight for every one square foot area. Any change in pressure below it could certainly cause the seabed to fracture.

Wow that is impressive, what an amount of weight. It seems that is sufficient to cause mayhem to the sea floor.

To anybody who will listen:

We CANNOT Nuke the [color=seagreen]Gulf of Mexico.

We Cannot have a RADIOACTIVE ocean, Marine Life, and surrounding environment.

There are OTHER explosives BESIDES NUKES, if it comes to that.

Ok here is the most recent view I have been able to find, it is from NOAA of the gulf.



The image caption says June 9th 2010 source

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reply to post by ladyinwaiting


I agree. Nuking it now would be catastrophic to the fragile physical geography beneath the ocean floor. It sounds like there are so many different leaks, fissures, cracks, and seepages to try something 'extreme' anymore. It may fracture that part of the ocean floor like an M-80 in a toilet (not that I've ever done that before ).
In retrospect, I can now understand why they have decided not to nuke it. Even a micronuke could cause a large concussion fracture of an already porous seabed. The other pressure relief wells they are sinking may serve to compound the fragility of the upper mantle there.

Originally posted by theability
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman

 

I know, I've been looking too. I've been trying to see how far it's gotten - not on the coasts but in the loop. I haven't been able to find a single one that's recent.

I tell you no one, no single source has anything recent, they are all like a month old, NOAA, NASA.

Even the the local weather radar, doesn't show the area around the spill, no nothing!

What is going on?

They're trying to make this 'old news' and push it to the back burner, just like every other national and international disaster. They did it for Haiti and Chile earthquakes, 9/11, USS Cole, Swine Flu, the 1k point Dow crash, Greek riots, Gaza genocides, you name it. When the going gets tough, they bury the story

reply to post by theability


There are some very good, recent images from NASA here: www.nasa.gov...

and more images and videos here: www.nasa.gov...

Daily MODIS images of the gulf area are available here: rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov...

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this is what i have been fearing all along. they knew they made a mistake and thai is why all the secrecy. the gulf floor is very fragile. i dont think any explosives will help this now. who knows how many fissures are spewing and how large it is. the problem with explosives in the gulf is the fragility of the sea floor. you could open it up much bigger and most likely would. let us just hope these fissure/s are only from the maconda and not the tiber field. the are 5 football fields apart and both set near the mississippi delta. the tiber contains billions of gallons of oil.

i found this pic. found an article saying the oil is washing ashore in alabama today and ruining the beaches as far as the eye could see. the article said waves of oil. this is soo horrible. if this ruins the oceans how long before the food chain would collapse? how long before rains bring oil inland and contaminate all water?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/eee308495864.jpg[/atsimg]

i also just heard them say on cnn that the flow from the well is
800 thousand to 1.7 million gallons a day.
look for this to be changed to barrels in a few days.

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reply to post by Xenophobe


Good links, although I'm not sure I trust the integrity of NASA or NOAA anymore since they were busted photoshopping pics for the global warming thing. Photo #10 in the 1st link looks like they altered the color to brighten it up, as it is June and it looks like there is snow on the LA coastline.

reply to post by Xenophobe


Thank you so much for posting the links, most appreciated!

I had a tough time finding the one I did on NOAA.
I had been searching the wrong parts of the sites, again thank you.

Originally posted by OuttaTime
reply to post by Xenophobe

 

Good links, although I'm not sure I trust the integrity of NASA or NOAA anymore since they were busted photoshopping pics for the global warming thing. Photo #10 in the 1st link looks like they altered the color to brighten it up, as it is June and it looks like there is snow on the LA coastline.

There are some very high resolution images available at that site, if you download one of the 250m resolution images, it will be apparent that the stuff that looks like snow is actually clouds.

reply to post by letscit

i found this pic. found an article saying the oil is washing ashore in Alabama today and ruining the beaches as far as the eye could see. the article said waves of oil. this is so horrible. if this ruins the oceans how long before the food chain would collapse? how long before rains bring oil inland and contaminate all water?

I had lived in Sarasota Fl. for many years. The area had escaped many hurricanes, the brunt of the damage path. If this continues the way it is, my bet is that the gulf stream might catch this and coat all the beaches and ruin my old beach. I would be very sad if that happens, not that I am not already.

Originally posted by xxcalbier

The only kiker is they are trying to thread a needle from almost two miles away .
the needle being the well bore the tread being the new well they are drilling to intersect the well bore .

I researched this and started this thread about it.. Check it out it may ease your worries a little.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Xenophobe


I agree with you there. I could tell they were clouds but they sure look quite small and spotty. Pic #28 sure looks odd. Those clumps of clouds on the left have a pattern, and up in the right top corner it looks like a circular arc of a cloudline. It's probably nothing, but it sure is peculiar
.
I may be totally wrong, but can we rule out that they are HAARPing the area too? It IS the most sophisticated form of ground penetrating radar we have

edit to add: I just did a bit of research on that cloud type. It's an Altocumulus 'Mackerel pattern'. My bad.

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From what they have said it sounds like the casing below the BOP is bent.

This would stop them from putting a new drill pipe into the well and plugging it that way.
it also stops them from pulling the drill pipe that is in the well that is stopping the BOP from working.

This was caused by the riser and drill string collapsing when the rig sank.

I have seen no signs that this bent casing below the BOP is leaking.
we would have seen oil coming up around the BOP on the ROV cameras.

The casing below the BOP is two or more layers thick with cement between the pipes.

As for hitting the casing with the relief wells that is not a problem

If they miss they just pull back 100 feet and cement and try again as they are using a Rotary steerable system.
en.wikipedia.org...

They can do it till they hit.

Once they hit and fill it with cement then they can seal both ways to the surface and down the oil layers

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
To anybody who will listen:

We CANNOT Nuke the [color=seagreen]Gulf of Mexico.

We Cannot have a RADIOACTIVE ocean, Marine Life, and surrounding environment.

There are OTHER explosives BESIDES NUKES, if it comes to that.

Maybe you should read up on how it was done before. If you drill down into the sea bed there are no detectable amounts of radiation that escape. And no, there aren't "other explosives besides nukes" that would work since nothing else can push the surrounding land mass to any adequate extent. You can't exactly fit 30 semi trucks full of conventional explosives into a tiny space below the ocean floor.