Interesting new crop circle

reply to post by stereologist



lol, nope, I don't mind.
It's not your fault.

I would like to express my gratitude to all those who make the effort to relay these images of crop circles to many people. THe symbolic meaning is of great value to our learning & understanding.

Stereologist - Your efforts to skirt around such forums are admirable, given the time it must take you to cast such constricting and limited views. You bring me a warm smile. I must thank you!

reply to post by Initiated27


Denying ignorance is important isn't it? I notice the close minded viewpoint of many people that restrict their minds to only things that are without merit such as the silly notion that crop circles are not made by people.

reply to post by stereologist


Now you really don't make sense.
Thinking that you can state an unknown, as absolute fact..
is pure ignorance.
Please don't even bring up "ignorance" if you're just going to put yours on display, and then not even recognize it.

That is the worst kind of ignorance.

one more time..
Deny what?
not supposed to embrace it.

Bye.



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Ignorance is the belief that crop circles are not man made.

Now children, let's not fight .. doesn't everyone know that all crop circles, all over the world, are made by two Brits who are world travelers, have the ability to be in two places at once, and never sleep because they follow the sunset all over the world to make crop circles with ropes and pieces of wood every night?

I thought that was like, so obvious and all.

The conspiracy is who pays their bills since they don't have time for jobs and must have been flying all over the world constantly to make all the thousands of crop circles which have been reported and documented.

By the way, Mr. They're-All-Manmade .. care to explain to us how they make *some* crop circles have weird electromagnetic effects that no one else can duplicate and only appear in some of the ones they don't take credit for making? Hm? Or how they make *some* crop circles without breaking the stalks of any of the crops, although crop stalks are always broken on all the ones we know have been made by humans?



And hey .. OP .. cool crop circle, thanks for sharing.

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By the way, Mr. They're-All-Manmade .. care to explain to us how they make *some* crop circles have weird electromagnetic effects that no one else can duplicate and only appear in some of the ones they don't take credit for making? Hm? Or how they make *some* crop circles without breaking the stalks of any of the crops, although crop stalks are always broken on all the ones we know have been made by humans?

1. The claim of weird EM effects is false
2. The claim of broken stems is false

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reply to post by stereologist


and you are telling us this because you actually checked those two things out, yourself, using the scientific method?

you have some empirical evidence?
because i don't believe anything, either - i want to see it for myself, like you!

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It should be pointed out that the 2 Brits only claimed to have produced 250 crop circles. That's not many of the crop circles is it? They do not claim to have made many and if I recall correctly they did not claim to make any of the complex newer designs.

Anyone who has walked across a field knows that the crops bend. They don't break. Go ahead and walk

across a field and see what happens. Look at fields and see if you can see where wildlife and people have crossed.

Some cereologists claim that the plants in hoaxed circles have broken stems while those in real

circles are bent. However, whether the plant is bent or broken depends on the condition of the plant

rather than the type of force used in flattening it. During the summer green, moist, wheat is easily

bent and can only be broken with great difficulty.

The weird EM claims are based on people attempting to come up with some sort of explanation which does not involve people. The ideas come from who know where. It's just made up. In fact, one of the only peer reviewed articles on crop circles points out that the plants themselves dispute EM effects.

Hm.

This crop circle seems a little 'rough'. By that I mean you can tell from the aerial picture some of the stalks are not pressed down all the way. In my humble opinion this is the sign of a hoaxer.

Of course if the farmer allowed specimens to be taken from the circle and investigated we will clearly be able to identify the origins.

reply to post by Tgautier13

Of course if the farmer allowed specimens to be taken from the circle and investigated we will clearly be able to identify the origins.

How would you differentiate crop circles?

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Researchers have found distinct variations in wheat samples gathered at crop circles. Variations can include abnormal enlargement of cell wall pits in bract tissue (a thin membrane which surrounds the seed- head and through which nutrients pass to the developing seed), enlarged (both laterally and longitudinally) plant stem nodes, and expulsion cavities (holes blown out at one or several of the plant stem nodes).

Crop circles which produce samples with expulsion cavities are particularly exciting, as this would require microwave radiation heating the inner moisture of the plant to the point where it would turn to steam and would pop out of the stem at any of the nodes.

All opinions are valid, if someone has a pont of view that these crop circles are man made then this belief probably serves them in their current life situation. It is pointless arguing with these people, ( or anyone for that matter), as you will never change their beliefs, only they can change their beliefs, so i suggest presenting the evidence in a constructive matter and avoiding petty arguments that get us nowhere.

If you are trying to force your views on others this is really because you have doubts in yourself and you want others to agree with you to convince yourself.

All arguing does is create negative vibes and most of you realise we need to transcend the negative to enter this new dimensional reality.

I suggest in future we validate the cynics point of view, let them know that we value their point of view but don't agree with it and move on.

I think every crop circle discussion I've ever read on this web site has been derailed by this same argument, there will probably still be people claiming it
is doug and dave in 2016. We could spend the next 6 years telling them they are wrong or we could bypass this discussion and move on to more important things, the choice is yours.

May all beings be happy, redzi0n.


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reply to post by Tgautier13


Thankyou for your reply, this is true skepticism, standing in the middle and making up your own mind. Not like the cynical and the gullible who are really just two sides of the same coin. The gullible believe the presented theory without questioning it and the cynical believe the folk tale without question.

I see you standing firmly in the middle and think we can all learn from this me, included as I tend to sway to the gullible side.

There are very few real skeptics (though a lot of cynics that would like to give themselves this label), on this site.

I think if we can all come from a more skeptical point of view like the above poster it would help us greatly.

I wish you all an expansive, creative, questioning and skeptical,

Good Day.

The question of all crop circles being man-made could easily be settled. Pick the most complex and expansive of all crop circles and asked the hoaxers with board and ropes to duplicate it. It sounds so ignorant for people to claim all CCs are made by man when you have not been personally involved. Another thing is, why are hoaxers still making CCs? What are they trying to achieve?

reply to post by stereologist


If these were all hoaxed then why hasn't anyone ever been prosecuted for damaging these crops? (excluding the "one too many pints", doug and dave)

The same thing with cattle, no one ever prosecuted..

How are the isotopes of rare earth elements in anomalous quantities getting placed in many of these?

Your answers could plainly expose your lack of real understanding in this field, and make people here laugh even harder at you, so forwarned..
But I think you have already accomplished this here on your own.