Gulf Coast evac plan called "Swift Fox?"

reply to post by endisnighe


Its a beautiful place to live. Hurricanes suck but its worth it. Stupid is a bit harsh.

reply to post by johnny2127


I'm more concerned with what washes up on shore and the effects it will have on people who live close to the water and also the animals.

reply to post by Digital_Reality


Can you post or U2U me the line info. I need to get out too, as I am asthmatic and it has already affected me since may 10th, thanks.

Looks like more info on "Swift Fox" is coming out now. Another thread has Gov. Jindal basically saying they're going to evacuate.

Originally posted by DangerDeath
Coastal event + massive relocation of refugees = seems that Web Bot was right on target!

Does anyone have those predictions from last year?

The next one is "Space Goat" or something, if I remember correctly

I can live with space goats.

there better not be space spiders

On a more serious note, we have the room in Canada, just not the infrastructure. It sure would be a job creation scenario though, building up the roads and towns/cities to the north.

[edit on 11-6-2010 by snowspirit]

Detroit has plenty of vacant infrastructure
Hurry up before they destroy those abandoned homes!

Originally posted by Digital_Reality
Ive already called the BP hotline to put in a claim to relocate. My wife is pregnant and we live maybe 2 blocks from the beach. I may have her go stay with family if it comes in like they are saying. She has been saying the last few days how she can smell it already. Her pregnant senses are on high alert.
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Please for the sake of all of you, take your wife and leave as soon as you can for her sake and the baby's, but also for you. In this case I accept that I am a meddlesome crone who wants to see your young family safe and alive and out of harm's way. If you have family in the North or in Canada, go while there is time.

Has anyone managed to confirm the information that i have posted on page 3 of this thread,i was told it was common knowledge in the oil industry circles!!!

reply to post by Digital_Reality

Well, experience from oil spills elsewhere in the world proves that it clears up pretty quickly as the oil (which is natural product) is broken down by the environment. The environmental disasters caused by the Gulf Wars (Iran/Iraq, GW1 and GW2) where the Persian Gulf was polluted in an order of magnitude greater than what is happening around Gulf of Mexico demonstrates the speed of recovery.

Don't despair. Don't believe all the doom mongers.

Of course, if you really want to see an oil problem you should look to the Niger Delta. I wonder if Obama will criticise US companies who contribute to that environmental and social disaster.

Regards

Originally posted by paraphi
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Well, experience from oil spills elsewhere in the world proves that it clears up pretty quickly as the oil (which is natural product) is broken down by the environment. The environmental disasters caused by the Gulf Wars (Iran/Iraq, GW1 and GW2) where the Persian Gulf was polluted in an order of magnitude greater than what is happening around Gulf of Mexico demonstrates the speed of recovery.

Don't despair. Don't believe all the doom mongers.

Of course, if you really want to see an oil problem you should look to the Niger Delta. I wonder if Obama will criticise US companies who contribute to that environmental and social disaster.

Regards

No, it doesn't clear pretty quickly. Provide us with some credible info on that. I read just a few days ago here on ATS about another leak in GM which happened in the seventies - after more than 30 years life has not recovered.

Do you have some info on Persian Gulf? I don't think that was worse than oil spill in GM. And this one is getting worse each day. They have no idea when this is going to stop or how.

Originally posted by Digital_Reality
This is a picture of the paradise that Ive grown up in. Take a good look. What do you think oil is going to do to this?

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I'd be more worried about hurricanes.

reply to post by jazz10


Ground fissures and other leak sources have been reported.

Your fears are justified and also I think that is very near
the end of the reelfoot rift, which was the driving force
behind the great new madrid earthquake of the early 1800's.

Cayce had a theory that at some point something would cause
the rift to open up, though the rift was not known at the time.

And that the great lakes would empty down into the gulf of
mexico wreaking untold devastation along the way.

Let's hope he is wrong.

Good Luck to you all !

Mmmmhmmm. Thats why they blew the levies during Katrina. They needed to do a test run. Now they are going for the big show. Fun times!

What we have here is Volatile Organic Compounds being released from

the Horizon Oil Breach Sites. Hydrogen Sulfide, Benzene, Methylene

Chloride have been detected in extremely dangerous concentrations in the air

above the surface of the Horizon Sites in the Gulf. Believe me these

dangerous air borne toxic compounds concern me more than the oil

spewing into the Gulf even though incredibly bad to the environment,

fish, birds, economies and livelihoods affected on the shores and

within these states Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and Texas.


This concerns me gravely and if the flow of these toxic compounds

continue spreading into the air when the wind is just right it will

eventually affect air breathing animals, mammals and you guessed it

human beings. ^Y^

vaticproject.blogspot.com...


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reply to post by paraphi

Occupying Iraqi forces sank oil tankers and sabotaged loading terminals, releasing between 7 million and 11 million barrels of oil into the waters of the Persian Gulf. (Current U.S. government estimates for the oil spilled by the Deepwater Horizon so far range to 40 million gallons.)

We already have four times as much oil in the Gulf of Mexico as was spilled in the Persian Gulf and it continues to spew more daily with no end in sight.

... but the more serious damage was the longer-term oil damage that remained in the deserts and in the ground water and in the fresh water reserves and in the Persian Gulf itself, years and years after the war," says Dr. Paul Walker, director of the Security & Sustainability program at the Washington office of Global Green, a California environmental group.

At the time, as oil spewed into the gulf, it also sank into the land and contaminated the country's drinking water. As many as 300 oil lakes pooled 60 million gallons of spilled crude, blackening almost 19 square miles of desert, while oil-particle fallout contaminated 368 square miles of the surrounding land.

By all accounts it still is, almost 20 years on. As the oil lakes have spread and shifted, the assessment of the destroyed land around them has nearly doubled in area, according to a 2009 survey conducted by the Kuwait Oil Co. and the Kuwaiti Institute for Scientific Research. Most of the spilled oil remains trapped under blown-over sand, sitting anywhere between 2 and 8 feet under the ground.

Sorry, but that doesn't make me feel any better.

Source: www.aolnews.com...

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Check out New Brunswick too, it's a growth economy right now, looking for immigrants, has a high French-Canadian population and I believe is part of Acadia, the homeland of the Cajuns before the British evicted them. Hope this helps.

I guess this tread would be a good place to tell you what I was today,
I live in North Alabama and I was just north of Birmingham in a place called Foltiondale on I 65. I notice pick-up trucks hauling what looks like the trailers FEMA used after Katrina heading north. What I noticed was there were 5 of them and as I looked closer I could see that the trailers didn't have tags on them, which if you own a trailer that big in most states you have to have a tag. Also each truck only had one or two people in them, kind of a large trailer for a camping trip.

Now they may have been delivering them to places for reasons other then a evacuation of the Gulf. And it really could be nothing at all.But giving the situation, I can help but wonder.
And of course I don't have a picture, just like every good UFO story I didn't have a camera handy, but even if I did, I was busy driving anyways.
After Katrina we had a couple of Refugee camps around Gunthersville Al, I know I have firends in the AlSDF that worked guard detail there. I have to keep an ear out for any chatter from the Alabama State Defense Force. If they get called out for anything, then you know something big is going on.
I guess with that I will leave it up to the reader to believe me or not, I just thought it looked odd to me.

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reply to post by darkelf


My point is that the ocean mechanics and sheer size of the sea acts to ensure that oil spills are fairly quickly broken up and diminished. Oil is after all a natural product and subject to normal chemical and biological decay and degradation. Clearly there are immediate environmental concerns and longer term issues, but experience of the past demonstrates that the sea is able to clean itself when it comes to oil.

An oil spill on the desert will have a completely different set of variables and would persist for longer, so not really relevant to this issue.

The amount of oil spilt through the Deepwater Horizon disaster seems to vary considerably depending on who has been using a calculator and what variables and assumptions they are using.

Let’s use a common language. You cite 40,000,000 gallons and this equates to about 1.3M barrels spilt so far. The Gulf of Mexico Ixtoc disaster in 1979 led to 3.2-3.5M barrels being lost and Gulf War 1 resulted in 8-10M barrels being spilt, but some of this would have been on the land.

I could research the oil pollution resulting from the Iran-Iraq war, or the consequences of oil spills from WW2, but it is important to put the Deepwater Horizon disaster into some context and not to over exaggerate the effects, both short and long term.

I have said in other threads, but if you want long term pollution you should look to the sea bed dead zone of 8.5K miles squared resulting from the crap that pours into the Gulf of Mexico from the polluted Mississippi. The man made heavy metals (for a start) are not so easily dispersed by the sea. If you really love the Gulf then you should take this cause up against the US government and demand action.

Hate to say this, but this is looking more and more true everyday.

Alex Jones, while not the best track record, is indicating Swift Fox is a definite.

Um Georgia's not that far from all this. They need to go further north. Someone please tell them that, okay? Hell we could barely handle the influx from Katrina. This would be 1000 times more. At least.

And no, there's been no chatter from my federal law enforcement pals on any Swift Fox thingy or Deadly Tide either for that matter. I asked. I ask everyday. Ha I'm pretty sure they'd tell me.