Pay attention to the "Pro Israeli" posters grammar

I'll make this simple and short.

After reading numerous threads about the current Israeli-Gaza situation, I have come to notice that MANY posters which are "Pro Israel" have patterns in their posts. If you step back and just observe, you might note the following.

Grammar is off. Plurals are added where there should be none, singulars are placed where plurals should be. Even the best English speaking ones trip up on certain words or don't understand common English lingo.

I've noticed it over and over frequently. I've tried to ponder what type of 'foreign' posters would adamantly support Israel, yet have the same grammatical patterns as Israelis do themselves.

It's interesting.................isn't it?

If you've ever known or heard someone from the Mid East speak including Arabs, they have the same patterns of speech. So what kind of poster would SOUND like an Arab (in text) yet be Anti Arab, Anti Muslim, Anti Palestinian, Pro Israeli????

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Anyways, it's just an observation. Not 'proof' of anything, but the evidence keeps stacking up to my theory.

Thoughts?

I have noticed some patterns in many of the pro-Israel posts and not just here on ATS but across the web. Not with grammar, rather with phrases. Many of them use the same phrases as if they are cutting and pasting from a source somewhere or as if they are a "bot".

As far as the grammar you noticed, many of them might be from Israel and that's okay. There are plenty of members from Israel. Wouldn't Israelis support their cause and stick up for their leaders? Are you saying that they are pretending to be someone else?

I don't really think that it's a secret that Israel has paid bloggers, with some being volunteer, to scour the web and and troll/dispute anti-Israel threads. I even heard that they have "bots" now that do this too.

Bots can now easily get passed the captcha by forwarding those captcha boxes to porn sites for horny dudes to type in the symbols to get to the next free pic.

--airspoon

reply to post by Prove_It_NOW


I have seen multiple members all write the same..
I'm certain some have more than one account...

Maybe check their IP address ?

I am one of the strange ones who have no issues with Israel I guess. better fix that grammar of mine.

reply to post by virgom129


Derp.

All your base r belong to us

Originally posted by calstorm
I am one of the strange ones who have no issues with Israel I guess. better fix that grammar of mine.

I didn't say EVERY one, I said "MANY".

reply to post by Max_TO
All your base r belong to us

All your base, base. You are on your way to destruction. Make your time.

Great post! Wow tonight is the night for detecting the wording behind posters!
Whether it is just a coincidence it's great to see a fellow member really reading into the posts of others. Language and phrasing of ideas are such big key ins to a persons' frame of mind when they discuss a certain issue. The way a person approaches the topic or uses adjectives to describe certain groups is extremely interesting to the trained reader.

[edit on 10-6-2010 by fizliz]

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"The Skunk Works Forum Rules

As mentioned, this forum is for your most outlandish and extreme speculative conspiracy theory ideas. The intent is for like-minded members to engage in collaborative discussions about these theories in an environment that embraces and encourages extreme thought.

We certainly do not want to discourage the involvement of helpful critical analysis and skeptical thought, this will always be a very important part of collaboration on ATS. However, we will be strict in managing the tone and style of such exchanges. Please keep your critical involvement to helpful focus on issues, facts, and analysis of possibilities, and do not engage in disruptive character attacks, snipes, and insults in any way. Any such activity will result in a warning and removal of your post."

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My guess is, it's a good idea to put this in skunk works. See the bold area for my reasoning.

If you really want to get to the bottom of this information that you have brought up, then this is the best place to do that. In the Middle East forums it would get so side tracked that it could never go anywhere. Here in skunk works, the conversation is more focused on getting to the bottom of presented pieces of speculation.

Hope that helps.

Also, interesting observation.. I shall look to see if I notice the same.

Peace.

[edit on 10-6-2010 by broahes]

I do not know about bots , or many pro-Israeli posters with grammar issues. All i can say that i personally do have grammar (and English language in general) issues so feel free to correct those as it goes. See this as part of humanitarian aid to Israel.

Maybe they'll attend English classes because of this. Anyways , I myself do not know proper grammar as its not my first language.

I know it's not something provable. I admit I don't know where these posters are from. But I have spent much time around people from the Mid East...Jewish Israelis and Arabs.

The Israeli accent is similar to French. The Palate of their mouth, the way they say the letter "R", "W", "OU", "OW" sounds and others. Arabic speaking people have a different tonality.

But they BOTH seem to have the same grammatical errors when they speak and write.

So I noticed them on threads a lot. The "foreign" posters that support Israel, all have that common theme.

Just throwing it out there.

This is a public international forum.

Let each human have his/her own free voice and the manner they wish to speak. Not one human is similar or perfect or even predictable. Only fools would seek to find such patterns and insidiously insinuate them of being something else.

In a public forum, question the message, and not the messenger, more so in an international forum such as ATS.

Be glad and honoured that they, having ancient and proud cultural heritages that spawned from thousands of years of civilisation, knowing several languages, would even deign to write in english in this forum, to present their views for discourse, be they an arab from the desert lands to the Han chinese from Shangri-la.

For those arty farty english language aryans, do go to some other site where that specific lingo is worshipped instead of what is written and meant to be communicated.

Peace

reply to post by Prove_It_NOW

I'm probably the one with the worst grammar / spelling. But most are very polite and choose to ignore. Pro israel yes!.

And yes! have experience and know how Muslims interact and talk. At least the experience you get, living with a Muslim for nearly two years (no bad feelings)
And it's safe to say, that the Jews/Israelis i've meet...guess what, i'm pretty sure they were humans

Besides that, i'm Dane. Born and raised in Denmark. May have unknown roots of course. Who knows.
A homosexual was host at my "confirmation". So feel free to pick any label you want :

So how are you?

In any case, I hope life treats you well



[edit on 10-6-2010 by flymetothemoon]

Hmmm this onion has a lot of layers doesn't it?
"For you ze vor is over"
Maybe ATS should make it obligatory to state your location on your avatar.
Even then you will find ten people from the same location with ten different opinions.
You will notice people from Asia writing English with an Asian accent, the Orient with Oriental accents etc etc.
So don't be surprised to see an Israeli accent in the grammar of pro-Israeli posts.

I guess some very DENSE people in this thread think I meant that 'foreigners' are unwelcome...or that this thread is somehow about "grammar" and me being a grammar Nazi...or that I look past the very OBVIOUS fact that this site is International and have some hatred against International members...

*Sigh*

I just got razzed for sloppy spelling.
so I bludgeoned the poster with links.
I don't see letters when I read, so thats why all the edits
I'm a bot that hears words I read in my head when I read...
look out humanity

dang
if you see Harrison Ford snoopin' round here
could ya PM me so I can go hide?

reply to post by Prove_It_NOW


Could be due to the fact that they spell using a phonetic vocabulary and a phonetic writing style, rather than using the actual rules of writing the english language. This is common among ESL individuals as english can be quite complicated to teach and learn effectively.

Hell, a lot of native english speakers have terrible grammar.