The Gulf Disaster Possibly Grows: well-casing reported pierced!!!

So what Matt Simmons was saying about the main leak has yet to be found to explain these huge underwater plumes of oil , not to mention the huge slick that's floating above water, is finally getting the attention of the mainstream media.

Oil leaking from the seabed is where we should be concentrating our efforts !! There seems to be a ' learn as we go', type of attitude from B.P. our government and the media. Time is not on our side on this one.

reply to post by ThaLoccster


I heard on the news a few minutes ago that it's spewing a half a million gallons....but I didn't catch whether it was a day..a week... or what.

Regarding my last post. I don't even know if there is such a thing as a "tanker ship". I just made that up.

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by ThaLoccster

 

I heard on the news a few minutes ago that it's spewing a half a million gallons....but I didn't catch whether it was a day..a week... or what.

Regarding my last post. I don't even know if there is such a thing as a "tanker ship". I just made that up.

Virtually every news source I've seen has said from 500,000-1,000,000 gallons a day. I've never to my knowledge seen 5,000 or even 20,000 quoted.

reply to post by ThaLoccster

That is because the media sometimes reports gallons and sometimes barrels depending on their mood at the time.

ladyinwaiting,
yes there is tanker ships the exxon valdez was a tanker ship.

Originally posted by L.HAMILTON

Oil leaking from the seabed is where we should be concentrating our efforts !! There seems to be a ' learn as we go', type of attitude from B.P. our government and the media. Time is not on our side on this one.

Not sure what you mean here, but quite a bit of oil seeps naturally into the ocean throughout the ocean. I can't recall the previous source I seen, but here is another that speaks about a specific seep.

Scientists study oil seepage to learn more about climate

Santa Barbara seeps spit out a hundred barrels of oil a day. That's no surprise to surfers who've stepped in tar balls. Ten years ago, UCSB marine geophysicist Bruce Luyendyk monitored seeps near Platform Holly, on Coal Oil Point. He and other scientists figured that seeps spat out less oil and half as much gas during years that oil companies drilled nearby

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Oh yes....of course.

JW, what do you think of the little idea..... Sinking a tanker ship filled with concrete on the leak? Is it a ridiculous notion?

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
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Oh yes....of course.

JW, what do you think of the little idea..... Sinking a tanker ship filled with concrete on the leak? Is it a ridiculous notion?

I remember hearing about a high ranking Admiral that had the same idea except you added the concrete.
I don't know if it would work because it would end up breaking the conductor and we would have no access point for the ROV's to reach the leak.
I think we would end up with oil leaking in various places around the tanker. You have to remember that is leaking at very high pressure so it would wash out the mud where the tanker hits bottom and leak out.

reply to post by Just Wondering


Hm. I was only thinking of a temporary fix until they can complete the relief well.

But I had a hunch there was a reason it wouldn't work. If so, surely they would have already tried it. Anyway. Thanks for your response.

.....then a mini-sub. A min-sub filled with concrete. (Guess I just want to sink something.) ha.

Ok calm down EVERYONE

Dr. CHU is there!

He will tell POTUS IF TRUE

But let us examine well casing breech

We already expect this to happen and well intersect is much much lowere RELIEF WELL by thousands of feet!

So stop letting sen Nelson ruin your life all he tries is votes and sensation, he needs to have beer and STFU! We will pick you up at the PROM America (oil people)

I knew this would happen doom n gloomers


and so lets say well casing breech = not the end and Dr. CHU will tell Obama so he will know up to him about lying which he probably will not!

reply to post by ThaLoccster


I have written a great deal on the scale of this disaster. Many of my most recent threads document the subject. In a nutshell:

--- BP & the Obama administration have produced the lowest numbers, beginning with no leak...to 3,000 barrels of oil a day...to 5,000 barrels a day...to 10,000 barrels a day...to 15,000 barrels...to 25,000...to 30,000. They don't seem to have acknowledged too much beyond that number. (One barrel of oil is equal to 42 gallons.)

---Pools of consensus within the scientific community have chosen convincing numbers between 75,000 barrels of oil a day to 195,000 barrels of oil a day-- many agreeing somewhere around the 100,000 barrel mark.

The real number is difficult to determine.

BP doesn't want you to know and the government doesn't want to know, which means you don't and won't know.


[edit on 7-6-2010 by loam]

I know

PLEASE well leak is @ 30,000bpd because of similar wells in area also this was exploration well not PRODUCTION in order to have numbers as doom n gloomers want casing would have to be complete dis-engage!

SIGH

PLEASE stop!

NOW I NEED A WINE


Please read my STUFF if a problem in serious nature I will tell everyone at ATS way before media does. We have friends on the RW efforts.

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Originally posted by jeffrybinladen
PLEASE well leak is @ 30,000bpd because of similar wells in area also this was exploration well not PRODUCTION in order to have numbers as doom n gloomers want casing would have to be complete dis-engage!

No offense, but could you stop repeating nearly universally discredited nonsense relative to the flow estimates?

While BP and the Obama administration bend over backwards to obscure the true numbers, even they admitted to the possibility of 100,000 barrels or more.

In fact, that number now seems to be officially CONFIRMED:

See this, for example:

BP well may be spewing 100,000 barrels a day, scientist says

BP's runaway Deepwater Horizon well may be spewing what the company once-called its worst case scenario — 100,000 barrels a day, a member of the government panel told McClatchy Monday.

"In the data I've seen, there's nothing inconsistent with BP's worst case scenario," Ira Leifer, an associate researcher at the Marine Science Institute of the University of California, Santa Barbara, and a member of the government's Flow Rate Technical Group, told McClatchy.

Leifer said that based on satellite data he's examined, the rate of flow from the well has been increasing over time, especially since BP's "top kill" effort failed last month to stanch the flow. The decision last week to sever the well's damaged riser pipe from the its blowout preventer in order to install a "top hat" containment device has increased the flow still more _ far more, Leifer said, than the 20 percent that BP and the Obama administration predicted.

Leifer noted that BP had estimated before the April 20 explosion that caused the leak that a freely flowing pipe from the well would release 100,000 barrels of oil a day in the worst-case scenario.

You were saying?

[edit on 8-6-2010 by loam]

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wow wat can usay about this
i made threds saying this is bad
i read on ats a long time ago this thing is like an underwater VOLCANO
if bp now admits its gonna leak for at leaast a couple months witch we new already it probably means its gotten so big they aint NEVER gonna be able 2 stop it ,but in six months nobody cares anymore they hope..

but the amount of oil witch is spilling is about as large as the gulf itself
And will continue for at least 10 years at the rate of one million gallons witch is wats reported coming out now,and maybe longer
and so if its coming from the sea floor from multiple places it probably will get only worse in my opinion
anybody thinks they can ever stop it then?? cuz i really like 2 hear





[edit on 8-6-2010 by icecold7]

It has already been leaked that the well head was far larger than what they first said. They put that stupid top cap thing down there to film on and from, like seriously people. It's all a show. The actual hole is widening and caving by the hour. It has and always been beyond fixable. Don't believe em, don't believe em.
Please live happily. Our society living happily and loving life will help diminish tptb whole agenda.
Oh yeah fu-Q obama!!!!

also 88 thousand miles of beatch closed??
my country is only 200 miles top 2 bottom
so those peopl sayin relax wat do u have 2 say 4 urselfs
is this true i mean thats pretty bad i would think especially if u think about wat lurs beneath the water and 4 how long this thing can continue

u americans really pick competent presidents i must say

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lol

Based on his # (30,000bpd) that puts the leak at about 1.2 million gallons a day.

Using 100,000pbd thats about 4.2 million gallons a day.

While noone really knows for sure the amount being leaked (or the people that do aren't divulging the correct #), its safe to say most even conservative estimates range from 500,000 to 1 million gallons per day.

Not many sources use the bpd but instead use the gallons estimate, I guess its easier to relate the scope to the average citizen in gallons, not barrels.

Either way, this jefferybinladen guy's estimate is right on par with any other estimate, its not downplayed in the least (1.2 MILLION GALLONS per DAY) and if correct or remotely close would put the spill at around 45 million gallons so far. Why the need to say hes a paid disinformation shill/troll/whatever had to arise I'll never know.

But it does seem pretty petty.

reply to post by loam


Thank you for your time and effort. I almost always read any post I see by you. I began reading your post after the Katrina disaster and you always have backed up your position with facts. If I had to vote on credibility, I'd choose your post first. Thank you for doing what many of us simply don't have the time or patience to do.

I am not dis-information guy it was other guy from or said he is Halliburton and I argue about mud kill and BOP and he try to make me look stupid!


I really don't know what BPD is my estimate is based on regional wells OK could be more or less obviously with plumage and crud washing up on beaches probably more but only so much more because again only exploration well not production.....sigh


I write this asap just finished class I am the real person here not the fake Halliburton guy!

I also sign up for 40 hr hazmat course at school and will be working in gulf helping this summer so you will all see JBL is real deal.....


I still want to challenge halliburton guy on mud logging though if it's ok?