Gulf Oil Tragedy - Operation Deadly Tide

Apologies if this has been posted, but I didn't see it when I searched.

It appears that the cleanup is a bigger disaster in the making than the spill itself.

In addition, please read and comment on this article, Toxic Oil Spill Rains Warned Could Destroy North America

Is this as bad as it sounds? Are we being kept in the dark?


[edit on 6-6-2010 by ~Lucidity]

Very good video and info. I would like to know more about the details of this Operation Deadly tide.

One thing though.. the cars on the air strip are not part of any operation. It has been proven they are cars for Kia dealerships sent from overseas. The airstrip shown is Reynolds Air Park, Fla. The person who put that video together was not aware of this fact.

Also, about 'Black rain" I mentioned this some time ago in one of my posts, and it was largely laughed at. You do not see armies of men cleaning the shoreline of using the boom correctly to catch the oill and move it away from the shore into catch basins. Experts have criticized BP and our Gov for this, but no one is hounding them about this to change the situation.

We need to contact Gov Jindal about this and keep on him.

Deny Obamarance

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Here's something I found...

Nalco Welcomes Scientific Findings About Dispersants Issued by Coastal Response Research Center

NAPERVILLE, Ill., June 4, 2010 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- A Federally-funded scientific panel has found dispersants environmentally helpful in minimizing the amount of oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill reaching national shorelines.

"We are pleased that the scientific review meeting convened at the request of NOAA (the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) by the Coastal Response Research Center recognized the role of dispersants in mitigating the environmental disaster occurring in the Gulf of Mexico," said Dr. Mani Ramesh, Chief Technology Officer of Nalco (NYSE:NLC). "Oil is the issue here and we are glad that the valuable role of dispersants in battling this environmental catastrophe is being recognized by this important committee."

In its report, the panel said: "It is the consensus of this group that up to this point, use of the dispersants and the effects of dispersing oil into the water column has generally been less environmentally harmful than allowing the oil to migrate on the surface into sensitive wetlands and near shore coastal habitats."

I guess I'd have to get more information on it before I could form a solid opinion about it, but dumping any kind of chemical in the ocean is bound to have some adverse affects.

I asked this question in another thread earlier, but if and when a hurricane comes through and all that oil is in the water, is it going to rain oil throughout its path? I guess it would be a mixture of oil, water, and dispersant. That should be pleasant.

Another article...

Nalco says its Gulf spill dispersant is safe

May 27 (Reuters) - Nalco Holding Co (NLC.N) said on Thursday the dispersant it is manufacturing to help break up the oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico is safe.

The Naperville, Illinois company said its product, Corexit, is a simple blend of six well-established ingredients that biodegrade and do not contain carcinogens or reproductive toxins.

Ingredients include those found in body shampoo and fruit juice drinks, Nalco said.

All the ingredients have been extensively studied for many years and have been determined safe and effective by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, the company said.

BP Plc (BP.L) (BP.N) has used 850,000 gallons of underwater and aerial dispersants to break up crude flowing from a ruptured well in deep waters off Louisiana.

Environmental watchdogs have said the chemicals used to disperse the oil could endanger marine creatures. EPA earlier this month urged BP to identify and use less toxic dispersants in the Gulf of Mexico.

Ah...okay about the cars. But this operation is going on it sounds like?

I only saw this video two days ago and haven't had a chance to look into this further...to be honest it sort of freaked me out. All of eastern North America virtually wiped out?

OLS has some additional videos about this I have yet to watch.

Thanks for the info.

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Here's another article from Mother Jones saying that the agents are Corexit 9500 and Corexit(R) EC9527A, and that the among the side effects are "...contain 2-butoxyethanol, which can cause headaches, vomiting and reproductive problems at high dose."
Is the BP Clean-Up Creating A Toxic Soup in the Gulf?

Yes, we are being kept in the dark. The government, BP, and the media are in collusion buffering the ugly truth from the public that the air quality is worsening. Anecdotal reports are coming in on YouTube and Twitter of oily rains in mid-Texas and other areas, as well as people being sickened by fumes in other areas near the coast. Obama was down there this week, patting fisherman and restaurant owners on the back as if soon it'll be OK and they'll get through this. The kindest thing would have been to be honest with those folks and tell them, "We're so sorry - you're livelihood is over. We'll make sure you receive full compensation for your loss and funding to retrain you for another career and/or relocation to another area."

Originally posted by ~Lucidity

It appears that the cleanup is a bigger disaster in the making than the spill itself.

You certainly have a point there ... here's some sobering news: seedmagazine.com...

More than 10,000 workers worked for a summer to wash glue-like oil from cold rocks. After spending more than $2 billion and inflicting untold additional environmental damage through their efforts, the cleanup recovered, at most, 5 to 7 percent of the oil. Some oil still remains in the beaches.

Eventually I realized I had covered the wrong story. The important point wasn’t that Exxon couldn’t clean up its oil spill. The point was, no one could clean it up.

The situation is turning more hopeless by the minute.

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reply to post by Rockerchic4God


I'm guessing this would cause some widespread panic if they enlightened us. Evacuation numbers like 40 million are alarming. I sincerely hope this isn't true. That's quite the relocation...mostly north...and mostly to where people will be needing more fuel to stay warm. Oh the irony.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity

It appears that the cleanup is a bigger disaster in the making than the spill itself.

And less effective in the attempts to mitigate damage no doubt.

Who comes up with these names? Top Kill. Operation Deadly Tide.

It's like you're going to war on the oil spill or something. And lacks just as much substance as the war on terror. Sure it's got a catchy name but they're not actually doing a whole lot except making the problem worse.

Heres an article that talks about benzene, acid rain and the evacuation of the Gulf area.

Benzene the killer! Plans in place to evacuate The Gulf Population

Benzene, incredible amounts of Benzene are being released into the atmosphere and is a clear and present danger not only for the old and people with respiratory problems but the general Gulf population as a whole.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity


In addition, please read and comment on this article, Toxic Oil Spill Rains Warned Could Destroy North America

Is this as bad as it sounds? Are we being kept in the dark?

The video was well done but the original source of the toxic rain article came from one author, Sorcha Faal, originally posted at this link: www.whatdoesitmean.com...

I am unable to find any Russian sources

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Ugh Sorcha. I'm cringing now.

Here's what rense has to say about this...

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Corexit the plan

I know many of you are in shock as I am,

As a lowly student in your country I feel as though i'm an American as well and this crap is killing me, but let's look at the corexit gamble. Corexit is being used to suspend the oil so that the microbes can break it down and not make landfall. II really hope a hurricane doesn't happen, if so I can house 1 refugee at my little apartment in Boston. I guess if everyone helps in this way the people can rebuild.


very very sad this morning

reply to post by ~Lucidity


The vid is sobering. I live in central FL. I know Veterans Hwy.
Are their any photos of this. Seem someone would take a picture and upload it.

I don't know about the video, but the source site you posted has really bad ratings with my "Web Of Trust" gadget. Apparently a lot of people don't like this site.

reply to post by Scarcer


I know. I wish I knew before I posted it.

But the Mother Jones article has more on the chemicals. Of course they're going to say they're "safe."

As for the rains...I don't know. I do know the spill sludge itself is affecting all the Gulf states but Texas and am not sure about Mexico. And it appears it's going to wrap itself around up to at the Carolinas.

Even With a Cleanup, Spilled Oil Stays With Us...a sobering article from the NYTimes about how the oil goes away...or doesn't.

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Nalco’s Chief Lobbies Congress on Gulf Oil Dispersant Bloomberg Businessweek, May 27

Worry About Dispersant Rises as Men in Work Crew Complain of Health Problems NYTimes, May 27

EPA Administrator Defends Response To Oil Spill, Use Of Dispersants NPR, May 25

Gulf Oil Spill: BP Trying To Hide Millions of Gallons of Toxic Oil? Protect the Ocean, May 3

Man, there's a lot out there about this...

reply to post by Scarcer


If the site isn't trustworthy, what parts of it are right anyway? There are 2 pages of Operation Deadly Tide hits on Google. I would guess the evacutaion stuff is wrong. Someone already posted the cars at the airport are just new Kias ready to be distributed and sold. I haven't had oily rain turn up independently either. There are several videos of Philippe Cousteau in the Gulf of Mexico
See them at this link.
Still, the thread is good. Thanks
S&F
BTW, I found one you might enjoy: abcnews.go.com...

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MOD EDIT: Fix link skewing page.

[edit on June 15th 2010 by greeneyedleo]

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Thanks. Cousteau was hopeful a few weeks ago when he appeared on Real Time with Bill Maher...wonder if that hope and optimism is cooling down now. They have made no progress. And from everything I'm ready about the cleaning agent...well it's not good or healthy for humans, animals, and other living things.