Methane Gas Explosion Blamed for West Virginia Coal Mining Accident

Methane Gas Explosion Blamed for West Virginia Coal Mining Accident

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It’s the deadliest mining accident in the United States in more than a quarter-century.

A methane explosion appears to be the cause.
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Methane on Earth reacting to Global Warming ** due to Galactic Crossing?

This post is not exactly breaking news, but a "thought" about Methane pressures World Wide.
Especially critical for the Gulf, Pennsylvania ... other related oil and gas fields?

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The Whole Solar System is Undergoing Global Warming.

I just had a very odd thought ... if the Earth is warming .. not from us --- but from Galactic forces which are warming all the planets in our entire solar system -- as we cross galactic ecliptic .... (even if it is what NASA calls 'The Local Fluff')

Could that "heating" not only be in the atmosphere where we feel it ... but at depth? .. where the planet feels it ... and worse where liquid plasma fields .. like the hydrocarbon deposits + METHANE .... are affected by it ... ????

I mean we have gas (methane) causing issues all over the place .. Norway, Pennsylvania, West Virgina, Gulf of Mexico, who knows where else?

What if this is just the Earth reacting to crossing the ecliptic of the Galaxy where all the north and south forces cancel out:

... and ALL that energy which gets canceled out HAS to go somewhere ... right ...?

Is this a symptom, and do we need to take precautions? ...

We have a few more years of this journey to finish up before we are even south-side to the point we are north of center now (and who knows what forces lie down south, similar to Hawaii and the Great Red Spot?)?

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reply to post by Serendipity7


As of right now, coal mines are not warming up. Methane has always been a problem in coal mines because it is trapped in the coal. This is why there are ventilation systems in coal mines. A the coal is mined, th egas is released.

One reason i never worked coal mining.

Methane pockets can be hit at any time with no warning.

One minute all the gas detectors can read normal and the next the mine can explode just because you hit a pocket.

They are extremely rare but can happen without warning.

Once in a great while we even get them in few gold mines mostly in alaska.
but i have seen one in Calif in a fault zone.

Surviving witnesses on the oil rig in Gulf that exploded said there was a cloud od methane gas that engulfed the rig just before it exploded.

Mining is certainly dangerous work, but is it "more" dangerous if methane can permeate semi-porous rocks and accumulate in greater quantities than usual --- due to warming of the body of the Earth, not just the atmosphere?

Could these methane items in the news be like a Canary in the Coal Mine?

Could it be telling us that the very touchy and very expansive gas which hangs out with the hydrocarbons IS EXPANDING MORE than usual, and moving into areas in greater concentrations, and under greater pressure?


This is my first exposure to this type of thing, and I am no expert. However, if there is a possibility that this is the case, should not someone put the word of warning in the ears of industries which must deal with the potential problems?

Could we save lives? ... A stitch in time ... as it were?

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It is a great idea, but I honestly think that the industries that have to deal with the problems of methane gas are more acutely aware of these problems than we at ATS may ever be.

I can't imagine that we as amateurs are going to come up with some completely new method of detecting the problems before they occur, although I will not say that it is completely impossible.

People in mining and oil drilling live with the ever present danger of methane and what they don't know about methane is probably not worth knowing - but don't let that stop you searching.

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by Serendipity7

 

It is a great idea, but I honestly think that the industries that have to deal with the problems of methane gas are more acutely aware of these problems than we at ATS may ever be.

I can't imagine that we as amateurs are going to come up with some completely new method of detecting the problems before they occur, although I will not say that it is completely impossible.

People in mining and oil drilling live with the ever present danger of methane and what they don't know about methane is probably not worth knowing - but don't let that stop you searching.

Gosh, I have no expertise to offer ... just a point of view which might be relevant to people in those industries ...

I remember at school .. by halfway through the second year people only ate with other people in their disciplnes ... there was just a simpler flow of ideas, and unless you had a pre-existing friendship or made a new friendship, your buddies were the ones who spoke your new lingo.

Now not saying the INDUSTRIES do not read the news, but this is not a news item .. except in certain circles, journals, where it is really old news ... all the planets are warming not just Earth ... METHANE to me looks like a perfect tattle tale of ground warming!

Transformation of the Solar System

'The Day the Sea Burned' A TV Movie where a small rise in ocean temp at deep levels of 2 degrees releases all methane stored on sea bed. That is the absolute tipping point of no return.

OOps ... that is page two, sorry ...

Here is the first page it has a bit more to say, and a few generalities to cover: (my error, ... )

PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF THE EARTH AND LIFE

... specialists in climatology, geophysics, planetophysics, and heliophysics

are seeing indications

towards a cosmic causative sequence version for what is happening

It means that climate and other things are not "our" issue but the issue of the whole solar system ... the changes may in fact be tied to the crossing of the Galactic Equator .. which we visually transit in 2012, but transit in Ecliptic alignment some "couple hundred years hence".

Yhe Planet-o-Physical State of Earth (Changing) --Solar system wide

Current PlanetoPhysical alterations of the Earth are becoming irreversible. Strong evidence exists that these transformations are being caused by highly charged material and energetic non-uniformity's in anisotropic interstellar space which have broken into the interplanetary area of our Solar System. This "donation" of energy is producing hybrid processes and excited energy states in all planets, as well as the Sun. Effects here on Earth are to be found in the acceleration of the magnetic pole shift, in the vertical and horizontal ozone content distribution, and in the increased frequency and magnitude of significant catastrophic climatic events. There is growing probability that we are moving into a rapid temperature instability period similar to the one that took place 10,000 years ago. The adaptive responses of the biosphere, and humanity, to these new conditions may lead to a total global revision of the range of species and life on Earth. It is only through a deep understanding of the fundamental changes taking place in the natural environment surrounding us that politicians, and citizens a like, will be able to achieve balance with the renewing flow of PlanetoPhysical states and processes.

So .. if this is global warming ... for the Earth Proper not the atmosphere alone ....

COULD METHANE BE THE CANARY IN THE COAL MINE

Methane // wiki
The abundance of methane in the Earth's atmosphere in 1998 was 1745 parts per billion (ppb):
1750 = 700 ppb
2008 = 1800 ppb
2010 = 1850 ppb (arctic) a level scientists described as being higher than at any time in the previous 400,000 years

-- the land/sea ice shelf melting has this high concentrations which are being released. --serendipity7

Historically, methane concentrations in the world's atmosphere have ranged between 300 and 400 ppb during glacial periods commonly known as ice ages, and between 600 to 700 ppb during the warm interglacial periods.