BREAKING NEWS! Scientists have found evidence of life on Saturn's biggest moon Titan!

reply to post by BlubberyConspiracy


Thing is with the processes detected, chemical origins not related to life have not been ruled out. This discovery is something akin to the discovery of the methane plumes on Mars. In other words -could be life- and could be is a long way from swimming with Methane dolphins on a summer day on Titan.

A Titan biosphere would really be pushing our understanding of "What is life" and you could also bet that the universe is literally teaming with life.

Originally posted by SiKFury
Not to mention its lack of a stable magnetic field. Alive things don't like radiation. Maybe theres a life form that eats cosmic solar radiation you might say. Ya sure and maybe some life forms live off hugs. Both are about as likely.

Solar radiation? Like light, for instance? Yeah, we've never come across a life form using solar radiation to make food.

All the life we're aware of has evolved to deal with the normal radiation levels where it evolved, All the life we're aware of has evolved to use the elements and compounds normally available to it where it evolved, it stands to reason that life which has evolved in other conditions would evolve to the conditions available to it.

reply to post by Still Naive?


What do humans do best? Mess $!#T up. But i hope they do as you said just observe that is smart idea.

The title of the thread is misleading as the official NASA article says they are considering it to be some mineral interaction at the surface right now, pending further evidence. Methane based life is only hypothetical and has never been observed thus far, although Titan does indeed have the correct conditions for methane based life to exist on it.

Really hoping it turns out to be methane based life and not some mineral giving the appearance of life. S&F.

One step closer to finding life, but not quite there yet.

But seeing as how it's possible that life may have existed on Mars, and may be existing today on Titan (or maybe even Europa) the chances of Earth being the only place where life formed in the universe is becoming more and more of an impossibility with each new discovery.

I know many of us already know that there is life out there, and we're almost certain that there is intelligent life, some people will not believe it until they have 100% unequivocal proof.

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
From the JPL NASA link provided by the OP.

The Sun and considering they are the fine journalistic source who brought you Bat boy....

As a long time fan of "Bat Boy", It would be wrong of me not to point out that he is a product of "The Weekly World News" Not that it matters as both publications are adult comic books.

On topic,

Thanks for the info. Interesting stuff.

reply to post by Pixus


Intelligent life that wants to destroy us.

Originally posted by Aresh Troxit
Did you notice what's surprising? A life form, not based on water, but on methane!

That opens a whole new door as we have always been told: no water, no life!

Quite a sudden change...

NASA has not said (at least in the past couple of decades) "No water, No Life". What they HAVE said was that if they were going to find life, it would probably be water-based --- or else they may not be able to recognize it as life. Therefore, they concentrated their efforts on finding water-based life.

NASA has always speculated about the possibility of non-water-based life, but they didn't have the ability to remotely recognize non-traditional forms of life for what they are.

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Not so sure about this one lol..

In 2 weeks time, this will be completely forgotten about. It will barely reach news.

NASA will find a way of saying, "As we speculated we have concluded that there is a non-biological explanation"

This is just another sick joke played by the NASA powers to enforce their ability to say, claim and do whatever they want.

reply to post by korats


there could be life there, its true we sent a sat 12 years ago or so to saturn and it's just arrived , why not be open minded and think GOD HAS A LOT OF ROOM TO PLAY WITH AND MAY JUST HAVE MADE MORE THAN HUMANS HERE , u know?

reply to post by Kandinsky


Hey-oh! I just remembered they found an exo-planet that is a giant gas one and that is standing where the water can be found in liquid state as the planet is in temperaure ranges of minus 20 to 160, if I remember well.

Scientists think there could be one or more moons with one or many different dominant species. ( I made a thread about it... )

I gues that eventually, we will learn that any stuff can be the basis for life...

Congratulations! You may now open the sealed envelope contained within the original game packaging.

en.wikipedia.org...

Almost makes me wish I didn't throw all of that stuff away years ago.

Originally posted by David9176
This is a tabloid website guys.

You only looked at the first link. There are also links to NASA, New Scientist and other authoritative sources in the OP>

Originally posted by cerberus00
Congratulations! You may now open the sealed envelope contained within the original game packaging.

en.wikipedia.org...

Almost makes me wish I didn't throw all of that stuff away years ago.

I loved that game! I still have an Apple IIe, but I haven't found anyone selling the game so I can play it again on it. My step father ended up tossing it in the trash years ago... big jerk!

I dont suppose hollywoods films are educating us a little, or maybe just exagerating whats possible, JUST IN CASE they find a jungle moon inhabited by 20 foot blue giants. But it is highly unlikely if governements or private corporations found anything there would be any reason to tell joe public. Untill now you have to have the ability and intellect to pass the hardest military training, followed by the highest trust and ability to have the security clearance.
I have a hard time getting a credit card, lets eat the pop corn and dream a little!

''Pandora's atmosphere is a mixture of nitrogen, oxygen, carbon dioxide (>18%), xenon (>5.5%), methane, and hydrogen sulfide (>1%) and is about 20% denser than the atmosphere on Earth primarily due to the high percentage of Xenon; a heavy, colorless, odorless, and generally unreactive noble gas. The high concentration of carbon dioxide in the Pandoran atmosphere makes it extremely poisonous to humans and will kill them in about 4 minutes. The hydrogen sulfide present is also quite poisonous; concentrations over 1000 ppm (0.1 %) can cause immediate collapse with subsequent loss of breathing, even after inhalation of a single breath.''

Reference taken from: james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com...

Originally posted by SiKFury
reply to post by Phlynx

 

Not to mention its lack of a stable magnetic field. Alive things don't like radiation. Maybe theres a life form that eats cosmic solar radiation you might say. Ya sure and maybe some life forms live off hugs. Both are about as likely.

Heres were Astrobiologist biologist start waving imaginary magical dustpans in the air as the crowd oooes and ahhhhs whilst dollar signs take the place of their eyes not unlike cartoon characters.

Ill tell you what. Go to a lab, recreate what we do know about this amazing moon. Then make some friggin life.

Go here if you want to learn some real stuff about Titan saturn.jpl.nasa.gov... Just avoid the imaginary mumbo jumbo this topic is.

If a private individual wants to theorize in the subject and send up his/her own space probes that doesnt include MILLIONS of dollars of MY tax money more power to him/her.

Whats good about this is western science laughs Russia and China up and down the block about trying to Scientifically study pysiweapons anti grav and other weird interesting stuff. Though ET is an interesting subject Astrobiology is right up there with ghost goblins and astral projection.


Edit to ad: Crazy speculation and crazy theories are great however when scientist, people who society holds up above your normal average joe start calling wild speculation AT BEST into sensationalist dribble then passed to the public as basically a fact it gets me. Im suprised at the end of the article they didnt say 9 out of 10 doctors that already agree with us think the same thing. Sell me on the science not this hyped up national enquierer head line.
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I didn't know you were the authority on space based life.
You do know we haven't encountered ANY space based life, right? We've only seen carbon based life forms that evolved on this planet, Why can't life form in the depths of space? That life would be absolutely nothing like the life we have here and may infact feed on radiation, I don't see why not.

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by outbackjack1567
whoa!! cool..

You bet. It is so cool there that it rains liquid methane, and has formed lakes of liquid methane.

It is so cold there, that any kind of life as we know it could not possibly exist there.

But, it is fun to speculate.

Actually life thrives in practically every corner of earth, living on chemicals only without sunlight in the most extreme of conditions, and not just bacteria and algae.

and life AS WE KNOW IT being the key actually, we don't know what is, or can be out there.

reply to post by gimme_some_truth

Nothing has been discovered guys, the fist article is The Sun and considering they are the fine journalistic source who brought you Bat boy.... I would not take them to seriously.

That is correct. As I pointed out on a duplicate thread which you closed, the essential FACTS were published in Nature magazine:
www.nature.com...

Huygens Letters

Nature 438, 796-799 (8 December 2005) | doi:10.1038/nature04349; Received 27 May 2005; Accepted 20 October 2005; Published online 30 November 2005

Complex organic matter in Titan's atmospheric aerosols from in situ pyrolysis and analysis

There is nothing NEW regarding the data, which was published November 30, 2005 in the above Nature journal.

The SUN is merely SPECULATING regarding the presence of the tholins, specifically, Acetylene. Although living organisms is one POSSIBLE explanation, there are also possible chemical reactions that may be the cause.

Originally posted by SiKFury


Not to mention its lack of a stable magnetic field. Alive things don't like radiation. Maybe theres a life form that eats cosmic solar radiation you might say. Ya sure and maybe some life forms live off hugs. Both are about as likely.

I loled. A life form that lives off solar radiation is a plant through photosynthesis... Hydrogen + Hydrogen = Helium, which is nuclear fusion, which lets off UV light, which is solar radiation... Nice try on that one though.