Why can't we line our beaches in the Gulf with Hemp Hurds/Mulch to preserve our fragile beaches and

Hello ATS community!

Please bare with me... this is my first thread on ATS. So please be kind. I am not the best with words and I am sorry if this has been already started in a thread. I did search and not much has come up on the topic.

I feel I can't stay quiet anymore. Something needs to be done as a preventative for the oil heading to our beaches. This oil spill has pissed me off enough and I am sure many feel the same. I feel I (WE) can't sit around just arguing and debating about the issue. Move aside BP and let US help! Last I knew BP doesn't own the oceans and beaches? Right? Please correct me if I am wrong. This is our HOME! Our Earth! Our Planet! If we want to prepare we should be able too... I would hope.

I have been reading and researching absorbent natural materials. The picture of the animals on the beach makes me sick to my stomach. I cried/was so angered last night watching the Rachel Maddow show as they showed pictures of the animals covered in oil, that the booms are failing and the possibility of an island being destroyed. A whole island where endangered species come and mate! What will become of OUR ecosystem? We live on a fragile planet, that require a little TLC every now and then.

www.clicker.com...

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So I ask why can't the government, the people, whoever line our beaches to preserve what we have and save it the best we can before the oil hits? There are plenty of natural resources out there that would not need inspection?

As I was researching I came across this about hemp:

www.hort.purdue.edu...

www.hemptraders.com...

"This product is a 50-50 mixture of hemp hurds and raw hemp fiber. It is a very porous material. This provides lots of absorbency and the free flow of air and small molecules. The material is also naturally resistant to mold and bacteria. Put all that together and you've got one great all natural growing medium. "

"Hemp hurd is a very absorbent material derived from the core of the hemp stalks. It looks similar to wood chips. Its porous nature allows the free flow of air and small molecules. It is also naturally resistant to mold and bacteria. This quality makes it excellent as an animal bedding for both small mammals and horses. "

www.globalhemp.com...

"High quality absorbents
Hemp products are excellent absorbents used in horse stables, cat litter, or oil cleanups. They are more absorbent than wood shavings and compost faster."


www.naturalhomemagazine.com...

"It’s illegal to grow hemp in the United States because it’s related to marijuana, so any hemp used for the cleanup would have to be imported. If hemp cultivation were allowed in the United States, we would have a real, renewable solution to this problem—and many others."

While BP is experimenting with "stopping" the leak..... (We) should be preparing our beaches and waterways in front of our businesses, homes, parks, etc?

This is a disaster that will effect us for years to come. Our Earth as we know it may never be the same. Whole areas may need to be evacuated and who knows what the damage if a hurricane was to hit the gulf. Just imagine the clean up then......

This is our planet, our Earth, our HOME! We do not want a dead zone. Will we look back years from now and tell our future generations about the time we use to have a wonderful seafood industry, beautiful vacation spots, and culture so full of life?

FYI - I believe there was a thread on this very topic in the alternative substances forum.

One of the problems, unless it's donated which would be nice for a change, BP doesn't seem to be cutting many checks right now and the Federal government, although claiming to be in charge, has certainly taken a back seat to BP. I think that BP should be on the front lines, especially since they are supposed to be the oil experts, but I would like to see the Federal government there making sure everybody is working as hard as they are supposed to and making sure everybody is remaining on task and ensuring transparency throughout this terrible ordeal.

As far as hemp, it would probably work, although I have a feeling it is going to be rather cost prohibitive. Hence my whole 'it should be donated' blurb.

Frankly, given the amount of aid the US provides to countries when hit with natural disasters, and given the probability that this will affect the entire world given enough time to spread, I would think somebody somewhere would be helping us out. If there are other countries lending assistance, than I apologize but I haven't heard much about it.

Because hemp is the most dangerous substance known to man.....................didn't you know that?

just another I want my joint to be leagel thread .
saying oo you can make rope is just a way of trying to blind people to your habit .
why dont all you who want joints so bad loby to make it leagel .
and please dont reply with the but this hump wont have the drug in it when you know as well as I the first thing that will be done is growing the get high kind wich is worth much more then rope.

reply to post by xxcalbier


If you really research the many many many many ways hemp can be used, you might change your mind. The great thing about hemp is that its BIODEGRADEABLE, it wont f up our earth like we already have. Hemp could save our trees and our waters. Its such ashame that we have been duped for over 80 years to think this wonderful NATURAL plant could do more harm than good.

reply to post by xxcalbier


I apologize if you misunderstood me.... but I wasn't referring to the drug aspect. If people want to go and roll up some hemp mulch/ hurds to get high then by all means go for it..... I doubt you would even get high. This has nothing to do with legalizing pot. I think that issue shouldn't even be taken into consideration in this time of need.

This is about helping our planet and finding a natural way to solve the issue since the chemicals and man- made motives seem to not be working in the best favor.

vimeo.com...

free your mind people!

[edit on 6/4/2010 by concerned190]

reply to post by lpowell0627


Thanks for the post. I will have to check out the other thread.

I agree that it would be nice to have donations since BP isn't writing any checks. I just hope that people find it in there hearts to do so and realize that this very REAL and can (will) be a global issue at hand that will effect us for years and years to come.

I think it should be leagel to dont get me wrong its a wast of money to bane it.
the thing is I alest know why people really care so much and dont try to hide behind rope.
PS I canNOT smoke it as im allergic to it lol.
Ps growing enough to replace gas with bio would destroy our food supply .
all the rest is not that big of a deal.
alcohol takes corn out of our kids mouth hemp would take every thing else
You CANNOT EAT it

Our food supply is already destroyed with genetically modified crops. Corn isn't the best for you to eat anyhow. I'd take fields of hemp over fields of BT corn anyday.
BTW, hemp seeds are extremely nutritious..........
www.ratical.org...

reply to post by concerned190


Thanks for the information. Loved the video. Hemp really is one of the most natural resources. This controversial plant to the U.S. has so many benefits that can help our Earth. People really need to consider this for absorption of oil in the Gulf. It seems it would be a wonderful ,natural, biodegradable resource!

reply to post by concerned190


Spot on every comment. Star for each one. Logic is overruled by the same people bent on destroying our world.

we cant do that because:
1. its illegal to grow locally
2. is expensive to import

Because it would make to much sense! We could even use hay and straw we have plenty. Still there is even a better proven way and the only thing we need, much more effective easier to apply and cheaper, restores the environment in a matter of weeks:



Why isn't this being done yesterday or a month ago? Anyone who doesn't believe this is corruption at its height between government and BP/big oil etc. after watching this video is a zombie!


[edit on 4-6-2010 by hawkiye]

reply to post by hawkiye


All I have to say is WOW. BP will use dispersant that makes the spill worse, but they won't use something that has been proven, worked in the past and completely natural. This is such a shame....One would think with everything going on in the world, that the government and BP would want to put a stop on this.

reply to post by Happyfeet84


Because hemp / hay bales would make too much sense.

I've seen a lot of photos of those 'booms', but not any that had barriers of 'bales'. That doesn't mean they aren't being used, but I haven't heard about it. The worst washup photos I've seen didn't even have 'booms'.

reply to post by hawkiye


WOW!!!! That vid is amazing.......................yes now I am wondering why the F is this not being done.................someone call that man up and tell him to go down there and start saving our ocean who gives a crap what bp says.

reply to post by xxcalbier


Way to try to turn this thread (a great first thread for the OP I might add..) into one of those debates. Did you even read the OP?

OP, I really hope this thread can reach more people and that it doesn't turn into another 'legalize it now' threads. I realize that wasn't your intent, but some people just love to assume a little too much.

I have also looked into this as a clean up method, and think it would be a great solution.. although I'm not sure of the cost since it would all have to be imported. It could be one of the many small things we do that come together into a big solution altogether though.

S&F. Nice work on your first thread.

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Thanks for your reply. Much appreciation!

I too hope that this post can reach more people and that it doesn't turn into a "legalize it now thread" that was not my intention. Anyone who sees this thread like that is blind to the whole concept that I was trying to make a point that this little blue sphere we live on is a living, breathing, growing planet. People's lack of common sense (not sure if that is the correct term) is going to destroy us.

This product is one of the most absorbent, biodegradable natural resources of the earth. There would be no consequences to using it after the oil has long stopped. If I owned a waterfront hotel or business in the gulf and knew the oil was coming... I would be doing as much as I could to protect the beach and my business. If I had to lay down hemp mulch, straw, etc. myself I would be. I wouldn't care what BP said. Of Course I don't know if that is allowed. I am still researching bits and pieces on what BP is allowing and what they are not.

I came across this blog.... This maybe slightly off from my original thread but I feel it is important to post here as well. It may very well have already been discussed on ATS. It really makes you think that there is a bigger reason why they are using this dispersant (Corexit 9500) rather than natural resources. Money plays a big factor.

www.blogster.com...

"BP Embraces Exxon’s Toxic Dispersant, Ignores Safer Alternative

It has been confirmed that the dispersal agent being used by BP and the government is Corexit 9500 , a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by Nalco Holding Company of Naperville, IL. Their stock took a sharp jump, up more than 18% at its highest point of the day today, after it was announced that their product is the one being used in the Gulf. Nalco’s CEO, Erik Frywald, expressed their commitment to “helping the people and environment of the Gulf Coast recover as rapidly as possible.”

"NALCO is also associated with Warren Buffett, Maurice Strong, Al Gore, Soros, Apollo, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Hathaway Berkshire.

Warren Buffet /Hathaway Berkshire increased their holdings in NALCO just last November. (Timing is everything)."

This just made me sick to my stomach if this is true. Doesn't anyone care anymore about living and our planet. Or is everything about money? People should be more concerned with doing good rather than destroying the good we have left on this Earth.

reply to post by Happyfeet84

"BP Embraces Exxon’s Toxic Dispersant, Ignores Safer Alternative

It has been confirmed that the dispersal agent being used by BP and the government is Corexit 9500 , a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by Nalco Holding Company of Naperville, IL. Their stock took a sharp jump, up more than 18% at its highest point of the day today, after it was announced that their product is the one being used in the Gulf. Nalco’s CEO, Erik Frywald, expressed their commitment to “helping the people and environment of the Gulf Coast recover as rapidly as possible.”

"NALCO is also associated with Warren Buffett, Maurice Strong, Al Gore, Soros, Apollo, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Hathaway Berkshire

i guess anything to soak up the oil globs wold work, straw/hemp/federal reserve notes


but won't go away easily is the stuff like 'benzine which is a water soluable carcinogen.... its been pondered that all the disperents bein used is going to cause greater harm to the water eco-system than just manually-physically picking the stuff off the beach, in the tidal pools, in the marsh grasses.

its also speculated that lots of recreational beaches will need to be monitored if not outright closed because the cancer causing benzine is a silent killer... where 1ppb is toxic...

its supposed that theres plenty of this cancer causing pollutant in the Gulf at depths of below 1,000-3,000 ft and if that gets caught in the 'loop current' and gets into the gulfsteam current then both the east coast & europe are in grave danger


~wheres the AC when we need him to save-our-butts from our own deadly sins~