US Government OFFICIALLY attacks Conspiracy Theories!

Good job my friend. That page is a joke. You're right, they don't present any support to their conclusions. They should cancell that website to avoid loosing more credibility. In one of my experiences, I saw an spacecraft and one of its occupants at not more than 20 meters, so...for me, is clear who is the liar.

Back in the 50's people believed anything the goverment said, now even my 8 and 13 years old kids know about E.T. I'm so happy to see they are smarter than the goverment.

Originally posted by C11H17N2NaO2S

Your theory about a person with nothing left to lose is pure movie stuff.

You're entitled to think that all you like, and will be in good company since 'they', the 'elites' tend to think the same thing. I'll hold on to my belief, the evidence of what I've seen with my own eyes, thanks. If that's ok with you, that is.

generally people in civil society have no balls to do anything! Most of you have nothing to lose! So why not do something!!

Generally, perhaps. I've noticed it trending that way myself. Not ALL, by any means, though. How many do you think it would take to really tear up a patch? I'll bet you dollars to donuts that your estimate is WAY high.

Oh you have a house and car and family!!! Right!!

Actually, I don't. No house, no car. One son, if that's to be considered a 'family'. I don't live in your picket fence world.

All an excuse to not do anything. If I took it away....you would still do nothing. Thats why you all rely on courts and so called justice.

You sorely misunderestimate me, friend. I've NEVER relied on courts, or any governmentally administered 'justice'. Not even police. I learned a LONG time ago the truth in the statement that when seconds count, police are minutes away. Where I grew up, they were HOURS away, and we took care of our own messes. The 'law' only can 'protect' you after a crime has already occurred against you. Nothing like being able to save them the trouble of it.

I've purposely streamlined my life so that there is less to 'take away'. I have far fewer handles to get ahold of than you can imagine. When someone goes to take what's left, well, we'll see then whether there's any truth to the statement that I 'would do nothing'. I strongly advise against that, since I think I may know myself, and my own reactions and abilities better than most others know me.

There is, of course, always the chance that folks with the mindset you have MAY be right about me. It's a gamble, but one I'm willing to take. Are they? Really?

I've already BEEN run through the fire, and I know what's left. No, I AIN'T normal. I know that. But I also know that I'm not the only one.

and a man who is broken and has NO hope like I stated is worth nothing. Without hope you are no match for anyone. Again movie like to portray a hero.

That is correct, in reference to a man who is broken. The miscalculation comes when they fail to realize that what they do may not break him. Simply 'taking everything away' is not enough to break some of us. I know that for fact, sir.

Regarding 'hope', that is an illusion. Only when you give up all hope, and realize that you are nothing more than a dead man walking - only THEN will you be truly effective, TRULY a match for anyone. Your opponent can do nothing with a man in that mindset beyond kill him. He can never be beaten, only killed. That killing will be costly, too. Added bonus: You CANNOT control a dead man.

Regarding your use of the word 'heroes', all the heroes I ever knew, and there were some, ALL of them are dead and buried now, as one day we all will be. No one gets out of life alive, it's what you do with what life you have that counts.

Here is my point, I come into your home and tie you and your wife up with your kids. I have a big fat guy with aids rape your wife in front of you. I kill your kids by burning them alive.

Here's MY point - you would never get that far. You wouldn't be the first that had tried to get into my house uninvited. I have references. When I had a wife, she saw first hand how that works. Scared her so bad SHE called the cops, to keep me from killing them. 22 minutes later, the cops arrived, and the invaders were damned glad of it. I was sort of disappointed, but that's life. My son could tell you an entirely different story about attempted home invasion, that he too saw first hand (more or less - it was dark). I'm still here to tell about it, and he is too. 'Nuff said.

I subject you to 4years of false imprisonment and torture you without mercy daily.

You just don't understand, and that's understandable. You seem incapable of my mindset, and that's not a bad thing. The simple fact is, you would have to TAKE me prisoner, first. I don't intend to allow that.

After that you are worth nothing. You do nothing. You as a human are a shell.

True enough. I know that, and that is precisely WHY I won't allow it to happen.

This is 9 out of 10 people by the way. This is why no one stands upto the government. This is why the so called people imprisoned in G-bay for upto 4 years and then released have done NOTHING and never will.

I agree. 1 out of 10 is a GENEROUS number for the capable, I think. But they are the ones who maintain it for the rest, so no one else has to, and don't have to live with the rough nights and such.

You as a human do not have the capability to do anything! If you say you do, you have either been trained somehow or you LIE.

Yes, it's one or the other of those two. I'll only add this - that more valuable than the training is the ability to develop the mindset. It's more the mindset than the training that will carry you through to the end.

The only war you ever really win is with yourself - in your own mind.


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Actually if i think about it better , the site really looks like a joke, but i already said that .
But it's so obvious that i am really wondering if not this is their purpose , to make an anti conspiracy website that bring nothing to the table so more and more people will turn to the arguments found in conspiracy websites

Maybe they really want one or two conspiracies to prove to be real...

Regardless of what we conspiracy theorists make of this site the fact remains that many people will read this and believe it causing in-house frictions amongst those who do and those who do not believe.

Ultimatly this simply buys TPTB more time to implement their plans.

This to me is neccesity born of strategy and fear by TPTB.
It is evidence that they know we know and have openly declared war on us.

Now there is "officially" a move against the conspiracy theorists.

The MSM will gather the sheeple and condition the vulnerable to see the big finger pointed at us.

For eveyone of us that believe there are many many more who don't.
Those happy inside their realisties that are filled with many accessible ego inflating and desire quenching wonders.

The common man does not care for the real cause of justice.

No action is worst than iggnorance.

One can choose to ignore the ugly truth and one can choose to accept and not act on it.

To me the latter is proof of our dying hopes and dreams.

If we believe in their false reality, sites like these are just another chink in their armour but to us it is validation that they have declared open war on the conspiracy theorists.

Also would this not also mean that ATS are no "officially" in their sights?

"I pray the messiah is alive and well and ready to step out"

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You can laugh about it, but the fact that they have created an official site to debunk conspiracies indicates how seious the conspiracy theorist threat is taken. Sites like ATS enable people with anti-government feelings to agitate others. I believe that the increasing number of militias is partly caused by sites like ATS.

They don't like the truth, because it limits their leeway to continue their corrupt behavior. They fear revolts more than ever and it wouldn't surprise me if the trend of anti-government sentiment is widely analyzed within the security agencies.

Internet is one of the biggest threats to the politicians who don't care about their country and it allows people to expose their dirty and corrupt practices. That's why the internet pirate free haven is soon to disappear. Whether we like it or not. This anti-conspiracy site is only the beginning.

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You my friend are dreaming. Unless thats you in your pic...then you are exactly like everyone else over there.

Oh right you did not grow up in a white picket fence...so what....! Oh your going to say you grew up in a project or with an alcoholic father who beat you and molested you! So what so did thousands of others. Oh ok then you grew up in a third world dump...again so what!! There is nothing you could of done to make you this so called "man" that could resist arrest.

Im dont know much about SWAT or the police over there but I do know this......they may be poorly trained or whatever but enough of them (probably 2 if we are talking about you) would do the trick.

And you have a Son. Thats good enough......you will fold like an american flag at a naval funeral.

there is nothing you can do.....except keep running your mouth about your bravado and your so called killer instinct.

Unless you are Special Forces (I choose those words carefully, some listed as special forces clearly are delusional) or some gov trained counterinsurgency mumbo ninja green beret big bollocks you can do nothing.

Now if you come back and say you are a black belt in something again i will say so what.....who is not these days. They hand them like teachers hand out gold stars. So this holds no weight.

I suppose you cant tell us what you may be trained in or what you may be so specialised in....because its all a hallucination my friend.

You are probably a decent guy with a nice son.

My point was that you are human...that in itself is a weakness and if you live in the states you must have back ache from bending over so much.

If you care to share with me you circumstances I may see your point. But I think you misunderstand the lengths we go to to these days to supress and control everything! They have done this for yearss and you are no different.
When push comes to shove you will voluntarily spread your cheeks.

I do hope you have made preps and your mindset is right...I do wish you well..although at the end of the day I dont care. No1 is what I look out for.

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wow.. this is fantastic! this certainly shows concerns on their side may be rising afterall Thank you for sharing this, they say conspiracies are wild? their supposed 'truth' is by far crazier than most conspiracies i know of personally..not to say paranoia doesnt exist, but its the better safe than sorry scenerio really..i would much rather have theories and trains of thought on board instead of keeping ignorant and blind to all other possibilities..
Its amusing that they are trying to enforce these things into the mind of the public, and for the 9/11 part for instance, it could be a good thing to many as it points the direction for anyone with any shadow of doubt in their mind or their subconscious, to look into the theories out there and *gasp* make up their own minds!

The government doth protest too much, methinks.

The list of "impossible" conspiracies they gave us look like good places to direct scrutiny and attention.

FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They used that word 14 times just in the content the OP copied.

What a bunch of ridiculous garbage, the sheeple will drink it right up to help keep their pathetically weak paradigm healthy.

That's right, we're all just fear fueled wackos, and the American Government is righteous, just, transparent, and most importantly, innocent of all accused crimes. Nothing to see here.

This is actually good for conspiracy theorists. You know why??? Because the government is becoming desperate. The mere fact that they address this problem means that it is now considered to be a viable threat to their stability and their ability to manipulate the masses.

How about the fact that they have to hire disinformation agents to derail or offset threads which are inherently volatile to their agendas?

Believe me, they are now showing their weakness by acknowledging the movement of consciousness against them. Its pretty hilarious actually.

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Believe me, they are now showing their weakness by acknowledging the movement of consciousness against them. Its pretty hilarious actually

Yes, I agree, and they've been showing this weakness more and more, they are feeling like they are losing control, and resorting to tactics like this...well, I don't think people are that stupid anymore quite frankly...it may have worked once, but hopefully people will be a bit more skeptical, if I may use that word, in this day and age...this will either make a whole heap of people feel secure with what they believe, or highlight exactly how guilty and anxious they are...

Hi everyone,

Just checked their privacy page and was wondering if this is standard for most web hosted services to collect information from web users? Could this be a 'trojan horse' to collect our IP addresses?

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As President Obama said, “The United States is not, and will never be, at war with Islam.” He noted that “America and Islam … share common principles — principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”

Cute, considering they killed millions of native Americans in an act of genocide to establish one of the shared common principles; tolerance.

In doing so, Native Americans to this day lack their own sovereignty, so that contradicts both 'justice' and 'dignity'.

But I have to agree, they certainly did 'progress'.

United States of America

Authors such as the Holocaust expert David Cesarani have argued that the government and policies of the United States of America against certain indigenous peoples constituted genocide. Cesarani states that "in terms of the sheer numbers killed, the Native American Genocide exceeds that of the Holocaust".

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On post

Star and Flagged...........

TPTB masses are awakening you can run but there is right and wrong you will get what you deserve in the end.....

We humans never give up .................

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Mate I am with you on this one there is nothing worse than a nothing to loose human being...........................

Originally posted by C11H17N2NaO2S

You my friend are dreaming. Unless thats you in your pic...then you are exactly like everyone else over there.

More like having a nightmare. That's why I'm up at 05:30 to read this. Yeah, that's me, but several years ago, and no, I'm not from 'over there'.

Oh right you did not grow up in a white picket fence...so what....!

So I evidently don't fear the same things you do, not having the same background. That's all, nothing special or magic about it.

Oh your going to say you grew up in a project

No.

or with an alcoholic father

Yes, but he was a decent man, for all that. Taught me different things than you were taught, evidently. Not such a bad thing, it just prepared me for my life, same as I hope your upbringing prepared you for yours.

who beat you and molested you!

No and no.

Oh ok then you grew up in a third world dump...again so what!!

No. I grew up in the good old USA, in the Appalachian mountains. A much prettier place than any godforsaken city I've ever been in, and there have been lots of those.

There is nothing you could of done to make you this so called "man" that could resist arrest.

If you say so. I reckon we'll find out if the day ever comes. I submit that you may have a very limited worldview, and this realm may just be completely out of your experience. If that's the case, and you're not just blowing smoke, then I'm happy for you, to have been sheltered all your life as it appears. Believe it or not, there are folks around who don't cling to life the same way you appear to.

Im dont know much about SWAT or the police over there but I do know this......they may be poorly trained or whatever but enough of them (probably 2 if we are talking about you) would do the trick.

It would take more than 2 body bags. To be honest, there are not enough men on Earth to keep me from dying before they could arrest me. I'm not conceited, I'm convinced. I've faced more than two fighters before even eating breakfast before. Not bragging, because it really ain't nothing to be proud of, just stating the facts. I'll tell you again, sir, fights, just like wars, are won and lost in and with the mind. Just bulk and bullets, while helpful, are not enough alone.

And you have a Son. Thats good enough......you will fold like an american flag at a naval funeral.

Again, I guess we'll just have to see if or when the time comes. I know how it goes, and have no doubts at all. You are entitled, as always, to believe what you will. I submit to you that you have already beaten yourself in any such scenario, by convincing yourself of a lack of ability, and are merely projecting that. I, on the other hand, already KNOW what I can and can't do, and will plan accordingly. I don't really need you to believe, so believe as you will.

there is nothing you can do.....except keep running your mouth about your bravado and your so called killer instinct.

Bravery has nothing to do with it. Men who AREN'T scared going into combat scare me, as they can get their whole unit killed from sheer stupidity. Fear is your friend, keeps you from doing stupid things, but you have to control it, rather than letting it control you. If you get so far beyond fear that you KNOW you're dead - nah, I ain't gonna go there, because there is NO way you could comprehend it.

Unless you are Special Forces (I choose those words carefully, some listed as special forces clearly are delusional) or some gov trained counterinsurgency mumbo ninja green beret big bollocks you can do nothing.

I am what I am, and that's about all you'll ferret out of me about it. All your efforts to piss me off really just amuse me. Are there people in this world that REALLY lack confidence in themselves to that extent? Far enough to let little thing like words make them get all goofy? Sad.

Now if you come back and say you are a black belt in something again i will say so what.....who is not these days. They hand them like teachers hand out gold stars. So this holds no weight.

I hold no belt ranks in any sort of martial art, and have yet to meet a belt holder that spooks me. Actually, I've never met one that TRIED to spook me. Why would they?

I suppose you cant tell us what you may be trained in or what you may be so specialised in....because its all a hallucination my friend.

Could be a hallucination. Still ain't gonna ferret it out like that. Why do you think I'd need to blurt it out, anyhow? Folks that really need to know find out fast enough.

You are probably a decent guy with a nice son.

Thanks, but I really have doubts about that at times. Not enough to keep me from eating, though. My son IS pretty nice, but he's trying to get over that. I'd rather he didn't have to, but life is as it is.

My point was that you are human...that in itself is a weakness and if you live in the states you must have back ache from bending over so much.

I'm mostly human, I reckon. Yes, it's a weakness, and I'm subject to the same final destination as all humans. I just realize it perhaps more than most, and don't fret over it so much. We all have to die some day, now don't we?

If you care to share with me you circumstances I may see your point.

That's the spirit, baby! NEVER give up! There might be hope for you yet!

But I think you misunderstand the lengths we go to to these days to supress and control everything! They have done this for yearss and you are no different.

And I think YOU misunderstand how little I care about the lengths you'll go to in order to suppress and control. I'm guessing you're REALLY scratching your head at this point. Record checks come up dry, or just not match the ID listed for the IP?

When push comes to shove you will voluntarily spread your cheeks.

They need to get to pushing and shoving then, and find out. I'm really getting sort of tired of waiting, but it's ALWAYS been a waiting game, hasn't it? Victory to he with the most patience!

I do hope you have made preps and your mindset is right...I do wish you well..although at the end of the day I dont care. No1 is what I look out for.

Oh, I'm as ready as I'm likely to get. I wish you well too, sir. I've done good service for y'all over time, and never expected much out of it. Strangely enough, that's exactly what I got. I might oughtta start looking out for just number one, too, but I'm just not made that way.

Just like Tecumseh said, you do what you do for the people. I'm gonna hate it for 'them' when they finally kick the props out from under this - but not enough to stop.

Not even enough to slow down.

Edit to add: If you truly are who you sound like you are, then you ought to KNOW I ain't BS-ing in the least. Must be frustrating, huh?

If you're NOT who you sound like, then I apologize.

If you ARE, I don't.

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I didn't look at the page... do they explain 'Operation Northwoods' too? Or are those unclassified documents part of our imagination...?

funny

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WOw you can fight with words as well again its off post but someone here is only pissing me off that chemical formula idoit


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Originally posted by Ashcool007
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WOw you are so cooooooooool....................................

Sorry, bro. Nothing cool about me. No glamour, no glory, none of that. Life can get really nasty and really brutal really quick, and it ain't like a movie. I'd rather most folks never have to find that out. Nice houses and picket fences are where people belong, not worrying over some jackass declaration of war by TPTB.

If they could leave it alone, and let folks be folks, all would be well, but it seems that they just can't do that. Then you get puzzling things like the rantings of scared kids like this website the OP found.

I STILL have to wonder what that's about. some of the things listed there are self-evident BS, and really shouldn't need a defensive posture from the government. I've kicked around ATS arguing against some of it myself, but in the end, people ought to be entitled to believe what they want to.

Other stuff AIN'T BS, and they really ought to stay as quiet as they can about it, but don't. They feel a need to defend all the same. I think the key may be that they're lumping it all together, hoping the scent of ridiculous will rub off on the serious stuff, and taint the whole thing.

Boneheaded move, in my opinion, but I don't think for them, either. They get to make their own decisions, and live with the consequences of it, same as we all have to do.

Cass Sunstein wrote that fine paper about needing to counter "conspiracy theories" on the internet, and lo and behold this shows up as if on cue. How 'bout that?

If they can't think any better than that, they ought not to scare anyone. Looks like the Keystone Kops redux from here.

I'm guessing you're a brit, or maybe from Oz. My time zones are messed up at the moment, but I think it could be either. In any event, you probably understand what I'm talking about when I talk about desperate folk, and folks that just won't quit. Things are getting tough all over, from what I hear.

Thanks for the kind words, even if they WERE misplaced.

Originally posted by Ashcool007
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WOw you can fight with words as well again its off post but someone here is only pissing me off that chemical formula idoit

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Chill, man. He's entitled to his opinion, beliefs, thoughts, and words, same as you or me. I wouldn't have it any other way. Folks have to give some respect to get any back at all, and he's entitled to his share, same as anyone.

NEVER let anyone piss you off. They get to lead you around by the nose if they do. Funny thing, but it's ALWAYS your choice whether to get ticked off or not. Your OWN reaction is all that really counts, not what tweaks it, or what was said.