US Government OFFICIALLY attacks Conspiracy Theories!

Just a reminder...the best thing we can do is to continue discussing and researching some of these topics.

As well, it bears to mention that the U.S. Government, when directly referred to, is an abstract and a fallacious scapegoat. Many people are affiliated with the government and there is a difference with the type of information they run across. There is plenty of conspiracy theories and ill considered attentions on conspiracy theories that help breed negative connotation. Which only means that the response may be an innocent reaction to connotation rather than a concerted consideration. I'm not saying that there aren't some pushing an agenda but that a unilateral labeling should not be a focus.

So keep on keepin' on and sooner or later the truth will be undeniable...and that is something that a .gov website won't be able to refute.

Edit to Add - There is also coroprate influence of our system to consider.

[edit on Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:54:47 -0500 by MemoryShock]

Originally posted by Skyfloating
This is actually good news. Im glad that my Government is dealing with Conspiracy Theories. Up to now they didnt even officially acknowledge that such theories exist. It shows they are taking the CT phenomenon and its spread through the Internet seriously. This is the begin of dialogue and fact-exchange between the public and the Government.

lol star for you... funniest post I've read all day.

Originally posted by MemoryShock
So keep on keepin' on and sooner or later the truth will be undeniable...and that is something that a .gov website won't be able to refute.

[edit on 3-6-2010 by ImaNutter]

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Joe Goebbels, Hitler's Propaganda minister, would be proud of that website.
This is exactly what Goebbels did, namely give speeches that condemned people who raised questions about the way the government was handling matters. Take a look at some of his speeches, and you will quickly see the parallel:

www.calvin.edu...

One of my favorites is the long-winded speech that he gave defending the shortage of coffee in Nazi Germany, attacking those that complained about it. The speech is quite long, and the link is below. However, I will post a simple excerpt to give you a flavor of the speech:

These dear people simply will have to learn patience and adjust to things as they are. At the worst, they will less frequently enjoy complaining about the party and the state over a cup of coffee, saying things like: "Did you hear, Frau Meyer, that our new block warden is our doorman? What does one say? My husband says that is Bolshevism. But don't pass it on. We don't want any unpleasantness!"

We old National Socialists pay no attention to people who talk and bitch like that. We cannot ignore the fact, however, that these coffee drinkers are using a ridiculous shortage of coffee that decent people do not worry about in the least to stand in line outside the shops as if famine had broken out in Germany. That is distressing and dreadful, and we do not want to see such pictures in the future.

www.calvin.edu...

1st time I've stared a moderator...Good post...
No amount of denial will help them now...

So, basicly TPTB are angry that they weren't able to kill the imagination of humans by the third grade,
hence their quote: "Conspiracy theories exist in the realm of myth, where imaginations run wild, fears trump facts, and evidence is ignored. As a superpower, the United States is often cast as a villain in these dramas."

They're angry that they didn't start to irradicate the imagination at even younger ages!

I guess they're panicking after realizing that the program to make sure we believed just their fairy tales is crashing & burning.
Project Tinkerbell to Captain Teletubbie: Abort! Abort!

reply to post by Anthony1138


I wish I could fully agree with you but all I can say here is Mark Ferhman. The man said one word and his entire testimony was thrown out.
This has been a tactic of American Law since Jim Crow - which is why I found the Ferhman irony very funny -
until now when I can be called a nut for having an opinion.
WOW

Someone got paid to design that graphic? Because it is quite awful. I can see pixels!!!! PLEASE get a professional web designer my government.

Oh, I've got to say this and I've gtg!
If Conspiracy Theories are in the realm of myth, then all conspiracy crimes should be thrown out based on this fact (US govt fact that is).
Bet that changes quickly, especially since they don't want to cough up the drug dealers in jail today.
Peace People!

reply to post by fleetlord


Yeah it is a .gov website, yep thems the feds.



On another note I read the whole website and am now destroying all of my guns because i really believe them.
On sunday I will find a nice Baptist church to attend.
I see the error of my ways and you folks should repent also!
American Idol Party at my house!!!

All Americans in this thread take note... The information contained in the OP was not intended for our consumption, but for those in other nations.
www.america.gov...

State Department’s Bureau of International Information Programs (IIP) engages international audiences on issues of foreign policy, society and values to help create an environment receptive to U.S. national interests.

IIP communicates with foreign opinion makers and other publics through a wide range of print and electronic outreach materials published in English, Arabic, Chinese, French, Persian, Russian, and Spanish. IIP also provides information outreach support to U.S. embassies and consulates in more than 140 countries worldwide.

Not saying they didn't know full well that Americans would find it and read it... but this site was created and is updated with non-Americans in mind. Sooooooooo.... what they are essentially doing here is attempting to tell the world "Please view any American who recognizes the US government is full of crap as being a mentally unstable, crazed individual."

For the sake of those who have not seen it:
The 25 tactics of disinfo agents
Very valid here. Just from a quick glance I'm seeing virtually all 25 being used, particularly #18, which is used throughout from beginning to end. Well... except for #25, which I really wish the federal government, all of them, would utilize immediately.



[edit on 3-6-2010 by burdman30ott6]

Just as a little side note if you look at the ip address that america.gov is tied to is 72.166.186.160 does not display the webpage. It is showing an index of a server. They are doing something odd with the ip address of this site.

reply to post by burdman30ott6
So this whole thing was an admission...Basically, to the ones who know their games...Well at least now we know what to believe.

State Department’s Bureau of International Information Programs (IIP) engages international audiences on issues of foreign policy, society and values to help create an environment receptive to U.S. national interests.

America.gov About Us (Emphasis mine.)

So the website describes itself, its progenitors, and its purpose as being literally, specifically, in line with the very definition of national propaganda.

This is nothing new, but rather the latest iteration of an ongoing and historically vigorous effort to shape public perception. Every government in the world does it. Our own has done it for nearly a century, if not much, much longer (as I suspect is the case.) For as long as there are dissenting opinions and thoughts, and for as long as those opinions and thoughts have any potential to destabilize political and/or social initiatives undertaken by those in power, propaganda will exist.

I am not asserting that every (or indeed, any) of the conspiracy theories touched upon by the site are factual or that all of the information seeking to rebut them therein is untrue, because I am a skeptic and have insufficient information to determine an unequivocal truth in events so obscured and confused by competing theories, contradictory evidence, and of course, the sheer passage of time involved in many instances. I am merely stating my opinion that this is not something intrinsic to any age, time, or administration, but rather to the institutions of governance and power themselves.

In the Latin America section I would love to have seen some "debunking" of CIA torture training and the Chicago Boys and the mass privatization of public services and resources like water, minerals, electricity and telecommunications.

Instead the site messes with Conspiracy Theories...emphasis on the theories. The conspiracies themselves are there to be seen.

As far as Health, H1N1 was such a panic-orgy it wasn't even funny. All deaths occurred in Mexico (the one toddler who did here had crossed from Mexico) and all of them were questionably assigned causation. All of it resulted in how many sales of Tamiflu ... Rumsfeld made some money there, eh? Tamiflu, incidentally, has similar side-effects to the symptoms of H1N1...hmmm.

So, how about those conspiracies? From Latin: com "with/together" and spirare "breathe"...literally meaning "breathing together" and metaphorically meaning "in close ties in an action".

I think it's pretty clear that when big Pharma puts ads on CNN, MSNBC and FOX that the media then make sure to produce stories that support that industry, even panic-inducing ones. Sounds like breathing together alright...breathing in the sweet smell of moolah.

Its interesting to see that they have addressed each and every concern with an attempt to group or catorigize the specific 'conspiracy theory' into some general bucket. Its a good tactic, mix in theories of extreme credibility with those that have none

[edit on 3-6-2010 by brigand]

im double posting but think about this, what if most conpiracies are false, how does one accept such a reality? and start living a normal life?

after surrounding yourself with conpiracies and distrust, how does one go back from that? some just dont

so i am keeping an open mind on differnt situations and threads, and shall now debunk things that just dont make sence...which is alot

Right here the blatenly state Obama was a Brittish citizen at birth.

"Interestingly, FactCheck.org determined that Obama was originally both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies from 1961 to 1963 (because his father was from Kenya, which gained its independence from the British Empire in 1963), then both a U.S. and Kenyan citizen from 1963 to 1982, and solely a U.S. citizen after that."

This man must be removed, hell he even states he was a brittish citizen at birth.

And here I am showing myself to be the bravest poster here:

I do not believe in any conspiracy theory. Few if any throughout all history (because face it the Papacy has been planning to overtake the world since about 600AD, then the Masons, then......... ad nauseum).

I believe in having an open mind about things and will research things tht make my Bull$#!+ometer go 'ping'. And guess what? I agree with what I read on the site about conspiracies. You ARE all nuts, IMHO. If you can't prove anything, it must be a conspriacy. If you don't understand the subtleties of something, it must be a conspriacy. See something you don't understand, and it must be a conspiracy.
I for one "deny ignorance", take up and use Occum's razor, check out the facts then the source those facts are gotten from, and make up my own mind. I think there are answers out there, and choosing to NOT accept something because you "believe" differently, is pointless. I choose KNOWING why the ways things are and not spend my time looking for the tiniest threads of "evidence" then use it to embroider a whole "them" against us mindset tapestry.
Knowledge is power: making up stories to cover gaps in your knowledge is using your imagination more than your intellect.

LOL @ their Sept 11 information.

A hijacked plane, not a cruise missile, hit the Pentagon, as detailed in a photo gallery.

Really?? That photo gallery is laughable. Where is the plane????? That's just one example of lameness.

Most of that crap is really, really lame. Like epic fail lame.

Aha!
Fantastic!
Thanks, US government, you're going to keep people interested in conspiracies for years to come now.