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Originally posted by double_frick
i agree with the OP, that video didn't say really anything about 2010 yet...
on topic...i am really excited to watch the rest of these. i was skeptical at first but then she started talking about things that i know to be true also. so thanks, OP, S+F !
Originally posted by The Patriot
That woman said absolutely nothing of any spiritual aspect whatsoever. Her speech was nothing but rubbish and empty of any meaning. More new age mumbo jumbo designed to confuse the masses or anyone ignorant enough to actually think she knows anything at all. Please don't be fooled by empty rhetoric.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
OK, I watched all 10 videos and while I don't neccessarily disagree with what she is saying I can't believe it took her an hour and a half to say it. I could have said all that she did in 3 minutes.
Who are these wisdom keepers ( the name makes me suspicious automatically, forgive me my cynicism) ? Who do they represent? Any specific native american tribes?
Great, so this is the BIG YEAR. 2010. The year of contact. I would like it to occur as she describes but it's not something I would bet money on.
Many christians watching this will no doubt feel the hackles go up on the backs of their necks. Anytime someone is saying "I am God or You are God" they will wonder if this is indeed not the work of the antichrist.
Lucifer exalted himself above God and look what he got - a kindgom that's too hot all the time and he doesn't even have a web page
Hmmm... does Satan have a facebook page?
Gotta go check.
Seriously, WHO ARE THESE WISDOM KEEPERS? Are they self-help messiahs or are they ordained by a tribal entity?
Originally posted by FiatLux
Wow, in 3 minutes? Maybe you should go before the tribe, and let them know that you are more of an expert in the field of shamanism than she is.
You watched all 10? Tell her tribal leaders that you are suspicious of the name they use, wisdom keeper, and let us know what their responce to you is, ok? That would be interesting. By the way, she did say what tribe she was with.
Oh, come on now, you know that`s just the expert inside of you saying that. Don`t be so modest.
You mean those bible thumping fundy type of Christians? They do that even if you look at them cross eyed, or have a differing opinion of the bible than they do.
Research is only a click away.......seriously.
Originally posted by FiatLux
Originally posted by The Patriot
That woman said absolutely nothing of any spiritual aspect whatsoever. Her speech was nothing but rubbish and empty of any meaning. More new age mumbo jumbo designed to confuse the masses or anyone ignorant enough to actually think she knows anything at all. Please don't be fooled by empty rhetoric.
And you expected what? To be spiritually awakened from some revelation that has never been heard before on this planet? You want to be spiritually awakened, that is your job to do, no one else. There is no word or words that anyone can say to you or anyone, that will awaken you. When your mind set is rubbish, then rubbish will be all that you see and take from all things, even if they are good. Try listening to something with your heart, and not your mind, because it`s the mind that always gets in the way of spiritual growth.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Originally posted by FiatLux
Try googling wisdom keepers. Hmm... is it .org or is the publishing company or something else? Search is no help.
This is just one of the sites for starters, there are more. thewisdomkeepers.com...
Perhaps I am more knowledgable than she is on shamanism, how would you know?
Are you a practicing shaman, or just an armchair shaman? There`s a big difference.
Sorry if I didn't catch what tribe she represents, rather than berate me a simple answer would have sufficed.
The Sioux nation is who she is with, but she also represents a few others as well. Also, when you come on here to debunk something like you did, try paying a little closer attention next time, it`s as though you only know half of what`s going on.
ANYBODY could go around calling themselves a "wisdom keeper" and do the lecture circuit to the tune of $400 a lecture+expenses.
Sure they could, but, they also leave themselves open for a nice lawsuit for fraud when they do. Who in their right mind would want to go down that road?
These new age folks are everywhere and while she repeatedly refers to nature as "the source" this doesn't necessitate her being a tribal member.
I gather that you belong to the Sioux Nation, and know this as a fact? If you are, I will gladly tell you I am sorry. If your not, I would learn to deal with the fact that you don`t know everything.
Frankly, i've met many native americans who didn;t know squat about nature.
Sure, they have their lazy ones just like all other races. And that proves what?
There are many white people who are more spiritually in tune with nature than their tribal counterparts. We all have the same access to nature provided we don't live in the city 24/7.
Well, if you look at the census figures, 79% are white, 1% are native indian. Gee, go figure. And that proves?
She DID claim to talk to dead people. Most rational folks would dismiss her out of hand but I don't.
That`s what happens when people don`t have clue one about such things, or, don`t care at all about it. Those rational folks, for the most part, go by what they learn in church.
I'm trying to get more information about her and the wisdom keepers. I wasn't trying to be judgemental but she makes some very far-out claims.
Great, I`ll do what I can to help you. You may not have been trying to, but reread how you stated some of the things you said. If one isn`t sure about such things, then why make comments before they do know?
I'm here trying to learn more.
If you are great. Then why not drop the I know better attitude?
If all you can do is crack jokes try another site.
They got your attention then, didn`t they?
Originally posted by The Patriot
I didn't say I expected anything of the sort. I just watched it to get a kick really.
And to be spiritually awakened, one must repent and have a relationship with the Creator. He shows the way.