Glenn Greenwald Destroys MSNBC's Israeli lapdog Apologist

reply to post by Washed


Sorry bud, we're not antisemite, we're actuallly anti vicious b%$trds if you really wanna know ?

Using the excuse that your buddy did it in the 60's isnt good enough.

Check your map, I think youll find that international waters are pretty clearly marked tp protect people from situations like this.

You jumped a boat in the middle of the night and got whupped...HTF is that self defence? Attack someone and theyre gonna defend THEMselves against you!

Sure....and you give the kids lolly-pops....as you punch her sister in the teeth! Im not surprised that these people try to attack you with anything that comes to hand, seems pretty reasonable given your actions since you moved in there.

Lets face it....you brought a gun to a pillow fight !
Your openly aggressive to all your neighbours.
You take money for 'aid' and are one of the richest countries on the planet.
You have more armies and nuclear weapons and yet you still bleat about how poor and defenceless Israel is......yeah right!

I do give you one thing....you are good at what you do, you manipuate, you corrupt, you bribe, you attack with impunity, you couldnt care less about obligations in the international community.

All in the name of your little sham country, but at some point the others will have had enough of your playing that old game youve always played.

Unfortunately for many American people who recognise the enormity of cruel and brutal treatment of the people of Palestine at the hands of a pack of guntoting Causasian Khazars - with absolutely no real claim to occupy the area of Palestine under the misnomer of 'Israel' and for the act of war in attacking an unarmed aid vessel in international l waters and committing mass murder, injuries and kidnap - your President and Congress are damning you in the eyes of the world out here.
Surely the time is now right to prove to those of us outside the United States that your President - who is supporting and protecting these barbaric Israeli Khazars - is at least Legit.
Come on! start demanding his records, his real nationality, his real name and identity. Just who is this agent aiding and possibly abetting Israeli brutality of the worst kind not least against semi starving children?
This man -who could well be an impostor - is now dragging the USA into the mud and a cesspool in the eyes of billions internationally.
At least justify to yourselves that he has the legal right to do this in your names - or be damned with his disgraceful acts.

reply to post by Washed


I have read no where in this thread that spews hate towards the Jewish religion or it's people. Your 'anti-semite' label doesn't stick.

That makes you a shill and an apologist for war criminals. This is a documented attack on a humanitarian flotilla which HAD NO WEAPONS in international waters. The starvation of the people of Gaza is most inhumane and anyone who doesn't support this type of indiscriminate war crime against the civilians of Gaza is an 'anti-semite'??

Get Real..

how in hell can a sane person defend the terror of the state of Israel going on as i write? i really dont care about arabs nor jews but one must be objective on the matter..

i would like to ask a jew why they were expelled from europe? could it be because they acted just as they do now? or did someone in the 19-th century understand that jews would be a real terroristpeople in the future? this last act of terror on peaceful people just sealed the fate of the fake state of israel and the jews as people on the middleeast.
i for sure wont feel sorry about the jews once arabs gets the upperhand in this conflict of theirs


(sorry about my bad english)





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My favourite jew:

www.youtube.com...

Able to make the best of his situation, can see 'opportunities' in grim circumstances, will always try to bounce back or move onto new pastures. Albeit a stereotypical 'old jew' he would appear to be of the khazar persuasion, but he does epitomise for a lot of people a jew.

As in most things, it gets out of hand when such a person gets into such a situation where he can pretty much do as he pleases. So I guess we could have a country of puritanical christian zealots, megalomaniac accountants or rampant ecologist martyrs.

Whats missing is balance....each trait keeping each other in check, but in the main getting on with life. We find ourselves at this time in a global situation where a particular group has far too much control of over all of the others.
The balance having been bought off by the greed of some and the opportunistic nature of another.

At least in the UK & USA you will struggle to find a political party who has not been bought off by lobbyists, sad to say that in the USA its pretty blatant and no attempt is made to conceal the duality of the peoples represantatives.

Cries for revolution will do no good, modern man is far too fickle to subject himself to such a situation, I would imagine that it will change when it changes as all things do. It will develop a tangent that will ultimately lead to its demise.

Only for another to climb the dunghill of power and corruption.

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Originally posted by Washed
Wow; I didn't realize ATS had this many anti-Semites.

First, this wasn't attacking a ship on the open sea, that's simply propoganda. Israel was enforcing a blockade against a terrorist group they are at active war with, that was attempting to openly defy thier blockade.

Remember blockades, like the US did against Cuba.

In fact, the truth is Israel allows more than just food and medical aid in, they have decided to also allow concrete and steel through, which could be used agains them as bunkers or missile defenses. Israel is very kind to their advesary.

Seriously people, would you rather be an Arab in Israel (not really a problem) or a Jew in Arab lands (almost none because of their blind hatred).

Self-fulfilling prophecy? Not really, how about a Satanic inspired enemy that won't quit. The Arab/Moslem hatred of Israel is completely irrational, born of blind hatred, like you hear from Iran.

Israel has openly stated and shown tolerance for thier Arab/Palestinian neighboors, while the other side simply wants to annihilate Israel and launches thousands of missles that hit innocent men women and children.

IF the Palestian people are "anemic" (false) it would be because of the BILLIONS in international aid that first the criminal terrorist Yasser Arafat withheld FROM HIS OWN PEOPLE. You see, if too many get out of thier refugee camps, the PA/PLO won't get their payments. They have DEFRAUDED thier own people to get rich (HOW ELSE WAS YASSER ARAFAT A BILLIONAIRE WHILE HIS PEOPLE SUFFERED?????????).

OK, let the irrational responses begin. Unfortunately for you, in this case Israel is completely in the right, and your hate will not change that.

" I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you" That was God on Israel, any of you bigots who disagree with that can move to Iran or Saudi Arabia, your choice.

That's what I thought, complete hippocrites with no legitimate arguments, just ignorant hate and intellectual masturbation on the topic bearing no fruit. Shame on those who deny Israel her right to defend herself from rapant smuggling and terrorists. You would want this for yourself. Don't reply if you can't do so without being a complete hippocrite. If you want protection from terrorist, shut your mouth.

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Wow. I am by no means an anti-semite. What I am is a passionate opponent of the zionist imperialist state of Israel, and of they way in which the evil Israeli government uses the peaceful religion of judaism to shield them from the criticism that they rightly deserve. Shame on you.

O K, Let me start by pleading total ignorance about just why we, the U S A, seem so all enthralled with Isreal.

It shouldn't take any half witted individual very long to recognize that the people who claim to be in charge are NOT even remotely related to the original "Hebrews" who came to be known as Jews.

Even if they were the real nation choosen by God to be a special people, the fact that they are often wrong in the ways they treat their own people, not to mention their neighbors, should not be a reason to act as if they can do no wrong. A good friend will tell you when you screw up, and are not afriad of having a differing opinion.

These people seem to often think the Ten Commandments should apply to everyone else but them. I had always thought these were the laws given to Moses by God for the perfection of His people.

I have also thought that as Christians, we should follow the teachings of Jesus. But, after reading and seeing the latest news reports I can find very little in our behavior which matches up with the things which Jesus taught.

Some people may think of my comments as "anti-semitic". But they just don't seem to realize that the Palestinian people are of semitic decent and those who are "in charge" of Isreal are not.

It may be time we just dropped all these "pretentions" about some groups of people being better than others. I think this simple change in our attitude toward one another will go a long way in bettering our relationships.

OH. Wait. I forgot I was talking about humans !!!



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reply to post by Misoir


If you rappel onto someones ship from a helicopter , in full combat gear, in the middle of the night, in international waters, nothing you subsequently do can be called "self defense".

Someone should tell these naysayers

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double post

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triple post, what the heck...?

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Originally posted by Dynamitrios
reply to post by Misoir

 

If you rappel onto someones ship from a helicopter , in full combat gear, in the middle of the night, in international waters, nothing you subsequently do can be called "self defense".

Someone should tell these naysayers

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I totally agree, it is piracy on the high seas.

reply to post by thedarklingthrush


He couldn't stop the story being told. He started it. You have to listen to the guest until he finishes. He wanted to stop him but he is not Oreilly. He at least had the integrity to let the guest talk.

reply to post by Pha3drus


I really can't add much except to say that I agree with: 1) the original position taken by Glenn in the interview and 2) the analysis of how the interview was conducted.

This interview is so very typical of how the US MSM conducts it's propaganda campaigns. It is not unique to Spitzer or MSNBC but is consistent across all networks and all network news broadcasts.

It might be useful to use this interview as an excellent example to enlighten some of our less aware associates.

From the pictures of the knives that the blockade runners supposedly had that were posted yesterday, it looks as though most of the knives were kitchen style chef knives. There even appears to be a knife sharpener in the photo as well.

What did the IDF do? Go through the kitchen drawers and find the largest knives they could to display to the press as the knives that these people were carrying?

Also, they claim that they had guns too, but there were no guns in the photos of the weapons the idf claims that were used against them.

Even a member of the Israeli parliament was on board on of the ships, and she says that the IDF opened fire first, from their own ships before the attack.

What's more interesting is that Israel is saying that nearly all the people on this flotilla are being released, with the exception of 4 people, all of whom are Israeli Arabs. It's interesting that their own people get treated worse than those from other countries. Speaks volumes.

Originally posted by Washed
Wow; I didn't realize ATS had this many anti-Semites.

First, this wasn't attacking a ship on the open sea, that's simply propoganda. Israel was enforcing a blockade against a terrorist group they are at active war with, that was attempting to openly defy thier blockade.

Remember blockades, like the US did against Cuba.

In fact, the truth is Israel allows more than just food and medical aid in, they have decided to also allow concrete and steel through, which could be used agains them as bunkers or missile defenses. Israel is very kind to their advesary.

Seriously people, would you rather be an Arab in Israel (not really a problem) or a Jew in Arab lands (almost none because of their blind hatred).

Self-fulfilling prophecy? Not really, how about a Satanic inspired enemy that won't quit. The Arab/Moslem hatred of Israel is completely irrational, born of blind hatred, like you hear from Iran.

Israel has openly stated and shown tolerance for thier Arab/Palestinian neighboors, while the other side simply wants to annihilate Israel and launches thousands of missles that hit innocent men women and children.

IF the Palestian people are "anemic" (false) it would be because of the BILLIONS in international aid that first the criminal terrorist Yasser Arafat withheld FROM HIS OWN PEOPLE. You see, if too many get out of thier refugee camps, the PA/PLO won't get their payments. They have DEFRAUDED thier own people to get rich (HOW ELSE WAS YASSER ARAFAT A BILLIONAIRE WHILE HIS PEOPLE SUFFERED?????????).

OK, let the irrational responses begin. Unfortunately for you, in this case Israel is completely in the right, and your hate will not change that.

" I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you" That was God on Israel, any of you bigots who disagree with that can move to Iran or Saudi Arabia, your choice.

That's what I thought, complete hippocrites with no legitimate arguments, just ignorant hate and intellectual masturbation on the topic bearing no fruit. Shame on those who deny Israel her right to defend herself from rapant smuggling and terrorists. You would want this for yourself. Don't reply if you can't do so without being a complete hippocrite. If you want protection from terrorist, shut your mouth.

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So because you called us "Anti-Semites" (The most overused word of the decade) and went on a completely hyperbolic rant, called us "hypocrites", said we are full of "hate and intellectual masturbation", called us "bigots" after using "scripture" to make a political argument, cited YASSER ARAFAT as the reason for anemia even though he's been DEAD FOR 6 YEARS .....

May I take this moment to ask you if you belong to the JIDF?

Oh, and I just noticed you registered that account TODAY. Your ONE post for the season?

The M.O. of you guys is just too obvious.



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reply to post by Washed


You do realize there where holocaust survivors on these flotilla, right? what are holocaust survivors anti-semite now to and hate jews? No they dont, they hate what Israel has become and is. A bully and only becuse America is their bodyguard. Maybe with your attitude you all can just start going it alone, we dont need you and with the arrogance you display you dont need us. You have sucked on the teet long enough and it is time to grow up and be on your own.

To quote another poster earlier:

I am is a passionate opponent of the zionist imperialist state of Israel, and of they way in which the evil Israeli government uses the peaceful religion of judaism to shield them from the criticism that they rightly deserve

These people are psychopaths but they exist everywhere, it's called patriotism so I am not surprised there are apologist and megaphonies everywhere.

One thing concerns me the most right now...

The last time Israel was criticised like this, and I mean to this scale where there was a large collective voice asking the difficult questions... We had 9/11.

That's my fear now, how loud will the voice be before a new 9/11 emerges and conveniently distracts everyone away from the events in and around Gaza?

O

And the new chief suspects for 9/11 are........

You have guessed it.
The dancing Israelis.

This new act of savagery is but a little 'op' for them.

They got 3000 - plus many since - if indeed they partook in the destruction of Buildings 1,2,7, the Pentagon, and four aircraft.

reply to post by Pha3drus
I've posted something similar on other posts on this site,that is that you are clearly among the billions that simply hate Israel,europe is full of them, but since they locked their lips around hitler and mohameds asses they've been screwed up. Look, the hitler youth (pretty much all of europe) hates them, the camel humpers hate them, the soviets hate them, even some Americans are starting in on them. They defended themselves aganist some thugs, the U.S. coast guard stops & boards ships in international waters all the time and so do many other countries when they are hunting suspected drug smugglers. IF this ship wasn't carrying contraband in aid of the terrorist in gaza then the one before it was and the one before that. Israel had no choice after the ships refused to turn around and refused to peacefully go to a port where they could be inspected and (if no contraband found) allowed to go on their way, as other ships have done. Israel DEFENDED it's BORDER from terrorist and (unlike America) when they defend a border they DEFEND a border - with extreme prejudice if necessary. They said to hell with international oppinion, to hell with the u.n., they made a decision to put their own country & it's people FIRST and formost in it's actions.Good for them, VERY GOOD for them. I only wish the American administration would do the same, that is to put us first and to protect our borders, with extreme prejudice where necessary. Israel did it's job, it was a combined blockade along with egypt, (who is now appearantly turing into a puss) to stop arms and supplies from getting in the hands of the terrorist. The islamofascist and ALL of their supporters are just mad because they are RETARDED LITTLE IDIOTS THAT BROUGHT KNIVES TO A GUN FIGHT, personally I thought Israel showed considerable restraint by not blowing them all out of the water. Unlike the rest of the blind fools who are following islam (and those who support islamofacist but are not musslim) I know that there is no peace with islam unless you fully convert, when their 12th iman arrives (koran prophecy about him strongly resembles bible prophecy about the antichrist) you all will either convert or be beheaded. The mussilim nations and their terrorist puppets in the middle east want Israel destroyed to the last man woman and child, period...so again i say Israel has no choice but to put themselves first and to defend them selves with extreme prejudice. I say BRAVO, BRAVO, and thank you for giving us an example.

That ship had on it 50 people without passports or identification and at least a dozen people with ties to terror. Also there was Bullet proof vests, Night vision goggles and gas masks on board.

canadafreepress.com...

Humanitarian my arse. Gaza is a place where they plan how to kill jews. They actuly seek out equipment and money, They fire rockets into jewish neighborhoods. When "humanitarian" supplies are brought in they almost always accompany other contraband that isn't allowed into Gaza.

Amazing all I saw in that video was a terrorist mouth piece defending a know terrorist organization (HAMAS). He didnt he make any valid points. But you guys hate Israel soo much you heard exactly what you wanted to hear.

This is making me sick. Just like the hate of Dubya. It has no basis in reality.


Islam wins....Your freedoms goes away. You will be silenced. And yet you all defend it. Amazing!

Keep fiddling Nero.


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