Proof the Gulf Oil "Leak" will last for months - There won't be a nuke.

The relief wells are, were, and always have been the plan. BP and the government have, since before Saturday, April 24th, planned to deal with this situation by drilling relief wells. There will be no nuke. All of the attempts to close it so far (i.e. top fill, junk shots, etc...) have been for our viewing pleasure - to show activity for the impatient American public (justifiably so) - and perhaps in case they got lucky with them. This effort will take months.

Obviously, the nuke solution is incompatible with the fact that they have been, for almost a month, drilling relief wells.

From The White House Blog

Saturday, April 24

MMS Begins to Review BP Applications for Permit to Drill Two Relief Wells

MMS reports that they expected to receive and begin reviewing BP Applications for Permit to Drill (APD) for two relief wells. Four remote operated marine vehicles continued to monitor the stack, conduct surveys of the riser and pipelines, and assess the stability of the sunken rig.


Sunday, April 25

MMS Approves Resumption of One of the Two Pipelines Previously Shut Down and Works With BP on Exploration Plan to Drill Relief Wells

MMS approves resumption of one of the two pipelines that were previously shut down to allow for inspection, and continued to work with BP on an exploration plan to drill the two relief wells.

Monday, April 26

BP Submits Application for Preliminary Drilling

MMS reports that the Application for Preliminary Drilling (APD) for the Development Driller III had been submitted by BP and was currently under review. A total of 15 MMS personnel were deployed to support event response.

Wednesday, April 28

MMS Approves First Drilling Permit for First Relief Well

MMS reports that the drilling permit for the first relief well had been approved, and that the application for the second relief well was under review.

Sunday, May 2

MMS Reports that BP Begins Drilling First Deep-Water Intercept Relief Well

MMS reported that BP began drilling the first deep-water intercept relief well. This action is expected to take approximately 90 days.

Friday, May 14

Preparations Continue for Drilling of Second Relief Well

MMS reports the Development Driller II arrived at a temporary location approximately five miles from the drill site to load materials required to position the vessel and begin drilling the well. MMS expects the vessel will move to the drill location within the next 24-48 hours and prepare to begin drilling.

Saturday, May 15

Progress Made in Relief Well Drilling Preparations

The Development Driller III, which will dig the first relief well, is lowering the blowout preventer stack and riser. The reported depth was nearly 3,000 feet as of 7 p.m. EDT on Friday, May 14. After initial review by MMS, BP revised and resubmitted the Application for Permit to Drill the second relief well, which will be undertaken by the Development Driller II—which is on location and making preparations for initiating the drilling process.

Sunday, May 16

Progress Made in Relief Well Drilling Preparations

MMS reports the Development Driller III, which will drill the first relief well, has finished running blowout preventer (BOP) stack and riser and is currently latching the BOP to the wellhead for the first relief well. The Development Driller II, which will drill the second relief well, is on location and is making preparations for initiating the drilling process and performing BOP maintenance.

Monday, May 17

MMS Oversight of BP Relief Well Drilling Continues

MMS reports that the Development Driller III, which is drilling the first relief well, installed the blowout preventer on the wellhead and is undergoing functional tests. The second relief well has progressed hundreds of feet into the seafloor after spudding on the morning of May 17. Spudding indicates the point in time when the drill penetrates the sea floor.

The Nuke Idea was as Idiotic as possible. What's better, 30000 Years dead sea, or a #i** Oilspill? Can't hear this word anymore: "Oilspill"

reply to post by cushycrux


Yes, it seems that all of the talking heads have been busy drumming up debate on a non-issue. At least it's kept the public's attention... which is why, I believe, the fact that the relief wells are our government's answer hasn't been made clear to the public.

I believe this is and has been "the plan" as well: buy time, divert attention from the events, allow BP time for protective legal manuvers if need be, get all the ducks in a row so no accountability becoms obvious for any interest involved and in general, to once again smokescreen and lie to the people in order to achieve that higher-agenda via greed and deception!
Just another day in America...I'm just not sure what it will take to create that "tipping point" any more but the chatter I'm hearing in casual conversations with strangers in airports and out and about isn't good: they can't keep this chit up forever because people ARE fed up and I still believe in the "basics" of right and wrong as do many others and this is WRONG on so many levels that I have to think something will have to happen that swings the balance back around to what "matters..."


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They know that the American public is outraged at the amount of oil being released into the GOM every, single day. That is why they are not being clear on this point. Afterall, they did post it on their blog... they did tell us, right?

I wonder how many people actually read the White House blogs... I think they know the number exactly.

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They could just let it get into the food chain. Then the American public could "eat" the oil spill. Let's see, fluoride in the water, mercury compounds in the vaccines, chem trails, DU in the air, melamine in the baby formula, GMO foods. It all kinda fits. What's a little oil and dispersant in your food?

No problem.

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I don't think they will let it get into the food chain on purpose, but, honestly, I don't see any way for them to stop it from getting there anyway. It might not be on purpose but the result is still the same.

Ok,

So supposedly 42,000,000 gallons have "spilled" or 1,000,000 gallons/day. I have read various estimates? But, none the less, sometime in August the relief wells will stop the "spill", or, is it more like an open gusher?

Back to business as usual to get the well back into production. Another 2-3 months off ooze, which will double the amount already leaked.

They say that the top kill method had stopped the gusher while they were trying to plug the leak. Why not keep pumping the mud down there anyway, to keep the oil down there until the relief wells are in place?

It's also ironic that BP used to call itself "Gulf Oil".

Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
reply to post by chorizo4

 

I don't think they will let it get into the food chain on purpose, but, honestly, I don't see any way for them to stop it from getting there anyway. It might not be on purpose but the result is still the same.

Not only will they let it get into the food chain on purpose, they are using the opportunity to inject as many more toxic chemicals into the mix as they possibly can.

We aren’t talking about a little industrial sized spill where they put some dispersants on it, and then mop it all up, and shovel it into bio-hazard containers and store it away someplace.

We are talking about pumping tens of thousands of highly toxic chemicals into the Gulf of Mexico day after day, month after month, which is going to eventually end up in ground water through rain and tidal activity, and into the food supply both through fish and the tainted vegetation that has been exposed to the chemicals from the ground water.

As a depopulation effort, this one is brilliant, because people weren’t on guard for it, like swine flu and martial law scenarios, and in fact many of them will encourage it, do what ever you can to keep the oil from hitting our beaches and destroying tourism.

It might take months or even years for the full effects of these chemicals to be known.

When you probe beneath the surface of this story, nothing has happened or is happening by accident. This is likely both a well planned out depopulation effort and the ultimate catalyst for getting cap and trade environmental taxation passed nationally and internationally.

It is going to be months and maybe years until we realize the full effects of what is happening in the Gulf today, and in the meantime people will be riveted to the Drama and Spectacle of it all, and misled and led away from the very most important questions and considerations.

This has the potential to be the biggest thing to impact the planet since World War II.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
reply to post by chorizo4

 

We are talking about pumping tens of thousands of highly toxic chemicals into the Gulf of Mexico day after day, month after month, which is going to eventually end up in ground water through rain and tidal activity, and into the food supply both through fish and the tainted vegetation that has been exposed to the chemicals from the ground water.

They have already used more than a million gallons of Corexit 5. When the EPA told BP to desist, they refused, saying that the only other alternative was a more toxic chemical.

If supposedly they stopped the leak while they were pumping; and, they are just letting it ooze now, then your premise becomes more plausible. Surely, the costs of cleanup has to outweigh the costs of a nuke, pumping mud until the relief wells are in place, or even getting the rig producing again.

reply to post by Iamonlyhuman


It seems as though the spill might have been pre-planned. And is a nuke really the only explosive strong enough to seal that well?

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Not only will they let it get into the food chain on purpose, they are using the opportunity to inject as many more toxic chemicals into the mix as they possibly can.

Originally posted by ogbert
They have already used more than a million gallons of Corexit 5. When the EPA told BP to desist, they refused, saying that the only other alternative was a more toxic chemical.

I believe this refusal was greed based and not necessarily a depopulation initiative. BP and Exxon have a vested financial interest in the company that makes Corexit 5. BP/Exxon Oil Execs’ Jnt Partnership Gets Gulf Dispersant Contract Half As Effective Twice As Toxic

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Are you implying the the fat cats at the head of BP are selling out not only the shareholders of BP, but also the world, to line their already over lined pockets?

Why would BP continue this event if they can stop it, when the cleanup cost is staggering?

They are both profiting and sinking at the same time?

I'm not sure what to think about the depopulation debate, but don't let Bill Gate's nanotech sweat activated vaccine nanobots get ya!

reply to post by Iamonlyhuman


The problem with the greed based premise is the fact that the money these people are committing these crimes for is not worth anything. It is simply pieces of paper attached to nothing of intrinsic value and for the most part just electronic blips on a register.

It is resources that have the ultimate value, resources like oil and human beings. Oil is controlled by a handful of powerful oligarchs, none of whom really need the money.

Yet oil is priced obscenely high as a form of hidden tax. The high cost of oil as a resource, means consumers have much less money left to purchase and demand other resources.

The whole point to depopulation is to conserve resources, and ultimately the high price of oil allows for them to save having to provide a whole lot of other resources people would want with that money that they had to spend instead on oil.

The fact that they had millions of gallons of these chemicals all stored up and ready to go says a lot too.

I don’t believe the rig had an accident, I believe the ‘accident’ was planned. So too was the use of the chemicals on the accident. So too was waiting for a relief well to stop the leak so that the chemicals along with the oil would contaminate an eco system tens if not hundreds of millions of people are dependent upon for their very lives.

Keeping in mind Halliburton is involved, lets look at Halliburton’s 1 million dollar a day no bid contract to supply and run Iraqi infrastructure in the aftermath of the 2003 invasion.

The reality is Halliburton didn’t accidently have all that equipment lying around, enough equipment to run the infrastructure of a smashed third world nation. The reality is they started out building all of that stuff, so they could then turn around and smash a 3rd world nation, and put all that stuff to use. The reason Halliburton got the contract with no bid, is because Halliburton had preplanned for an event that it would then later make sure politically could come about.

The fact that Halliburton was involved with this well, and that it blew up while Halliburton was preparing it for final testing, and they happened to have all these chemicals stockpiled in advance says a lot.

So too does the fact that BP was able to override the Environmental Protection Agency when told not to use those chemicals.

It’s all very suspicious if you ask me.

Time will tell all.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


I agree with you that it is very suspicious that all of these "supplies" were stockpiled before the event. I also think that there is some credibility behind it being a planned event (although, I'm not 100% convinced of that). The part where you and I diverge is in believing that it was done for depopulation purposes and not corporate greed. You make a convincing argument on the relationship between depopulation and greed/money and I do think that depopulation could be an outcome of greed. I just am not convinced that it's being done for the purpose of intentional depopulation.

The way i see it, they have mentioned that the relief wells were the best way to stop the leak in the first place; and, that they were preparing for this procedure from day 1. What they said was that they would try these other methods in a hope of stopping the spill earlier.

Now they are saying that they can use warm water to keep the hydrates down while they try again to cap the riser and divert the flow to tankers on the top, until the relief wells are ready.

We will see if the nuke idea gains in intensity, next week. Nobody is winning, especially BP as long as this stuff continues to flow.

If they are trying to reduce the population, surely there would be a more efficient way than letting the oceans super dilute the agent? If they are intentionally destroying the food supply, they are doing so for themselves as well.


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The rest of the countries in NATO should get invovled with this fix because it will affect all countries that border the Atlantic ocean. This is a horrible disaster and the "Top Kill", "Top Hat" and "Junk Shot" fixes were just diversions to keep the American people pre-occupied until the relief wells can be drilled.

This just in from the Guardian.

Former US secretary of state Colin Powell joined calls for the military to take command of the operation from BP. Powell said the problem was beyond the capacity of BP to solve and the government should bring in "decisive force". He said: "The military brings organisation, it brings control, it brings assets."

Source


Looks like Powell is preparing the populace for the Nuke option with the decisive force, "assetts', organization, and control of the military. Hope it works. Decisive force does not sound like a super vice grip to fix the thing with.

This is sort of like the Armegedon movie.

double post

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I hear a lot of people say "let's seal the oil leak with a nuclear strike." Yeah right. Bombing something to stop the flow of oil goes against everything America stands for. It will never happen.