State Secret Service (SSS) of England

State Secret Service (SSS) of England

Ciphers tell about Marlowe's undercover work in Naples, his love for the famous
actress Micaela Lujan, their marriage and children. He explicates the State Secret
Service corruption, Bacon's treachery and the burning of the Globe, when Marlowe left
the SSS to return to his family at Naples. He tells of sailing to Bermuda for Hen
Wriothesley, bringing supplies and two new small ships for the settlers – his terrible
reception there and sorrowful voyage home. The ciphers detail a tragic loss in his
family, trouble piled on trouble, and after Micaela's return, a more peaceful life at the
embassy. He describes in ciphers how he organized a sting that bloodlessly foiled the
Spanish Plot against Venice in 1618, using as helpers his wife, Venetian friends, his
friends the actors from London, and how he acted in the foolery himself, using the
name Jakes Pierre.

en.wikipedia.org...

Christopher Marlowe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christopher Marlowe (c. 26 February 1564 – 30 May 1593) was an English dramatist,
poet and translator of the Elizabethan era. As the foremost Elizabethan ...
Early life - Literary career - The legend
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Marlowe - Cached - Similar

www.google.com...

Banished from England by the Queen Marlowe lived on as Shakespeare
working as spy for England even though the Queen disliked him
as he foiled Spanish operations with friend Cervantes.
Only Roberta Ballantine has this story and seemingly has the Marlow
life story written as fiction books to avoid the scholarly naysayers
Its that secret.

Marlowe lived 58 years till 1622 if Wiki birthday is correct in 1564 and
not dead as the Queen and England would have us know and Wiki in
1593. Oops in Spain 1595. Oops at the England Embassy in Venice
1618.

Roberta's husband is on Wiki. Knew of Greek dramas with hidden
messages and worked for pre CIA information services.

Another page with some links that might work.
No. There is a contents page that at
web.archive.org...
and put in
www.geocities.com...
which is now gone.
ED: Got it direct link to contents:




[edit on 5/29/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Wow!

As a former English major, and eternal writer of sonnets, etc, this is fascinating stuff.

As a human being, it is downright amazing!

Thanks for the interesting information. I will surely enjoy reading through these things.

Perhaps Marlowe was a known genius early on and was slated
to the secret service. I did not read all the stories. Only Roberta
has the story and has written up Marlowe's life story.
Marlowe, a great writer throughout his life.

The secret service was in some way above the Queen as in some way
as Marlowe was valuable in the defense of England.

Only one person came up with the secrets of Marlowe's life.
And the secrets denied by 'official' word.
As if the ties that were made early on hundreds of years ago might
exist in the families of today.

ED: Google: Christopher Marlowe disclosure service



Yeah full disclosure now.


[edit on 5/29/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Here is Marlowe in Spain:

Where and when Christopher Marlowe met Miguel Cervantes is not
publicly known. A good guess is Lisbon, 1587, in early April, Marlowe
scouting for Drake, (1) who wanted to hit the Armada before it got under
sail, Cervantes in town working on spec for the Armada supply
commisioner, Antonio Guevara. Cervantes hoped to win from the
commissioner a contract requisitioning supplies out of Seville. (2)
Cervantes and Kit Marlowe both stammered; (3) that may have helped
cement their friendship, for they became lifelong comrades. Very poor,
Cervantes had joined Spanish secret service in his youth, (4) and had seen
military service—at Lepanto he lost the use of his left hand, so his nickname
became Manco, the name Marlowe uses for him in ciphers. (5) Drake
credited good intelligencers for his lucky strike on Spanish galleons at Cadiz
that April, (6) and it looks as if Marlowe 'turned' Cervantes, who'd have
been the only man in Lisbon who'd know where the warships were hiding.

under the title:

Christopher Marlowe, Miguel Cervantes, Lope de Vega and Micaela Lujan

Read on and see where Don Quixote and The Man From la Mancha.
involve some of Marlowe's adventures.
I often wondered about the popularity of story and can only see now
as some sort of inside story the Illuminati usually play on us.

Turn the tables on the Illuminati, not bloody likely.
Tesla's UFOs are alien and Nam and 911 continue to divert any turning
with the likes of Marlowe on their side.

All the Marlowes come out of the cold your alien plays are not worth it.
ED:


Google: Drake strike on Spanish galleon

[edit on 5/30/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

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You might be interested in this: A Great Reckoning in a Little Room: Christopher Marlowe.

I knew when I first saw this thread title that it would somehow include Christopher Marlowe - he is an amazing peot and dramatist who is so very often overlooked.

Some addition info -

The most famous tribute to Marlowe was paid by Shakespeare in As You Like It, where he not only quotes a line from Hero and Leander (Dead Shepherd, now I find thy saw of might, "Who ever loved that loved not at first sight?") but also gives to the clown Touchstone the words "When a man's verses cannot be understood, nor a man's good wit seconded with the forward child, understanding, it strikes a man more dead than a great reckoning in a little room." This appears to be a reference to Marlowe's murder which involved a fight over the "reckoning" – the bill.

Shakespeare was heavily influenced by Marlowe in his early work, as can be seen in the re-using of Marlovian themes in Antony and Cleopatra, The Merchant of Venice, Richard II, and Macbeth (Dido, Jew of Malta, Edward II and Dr Faustus respectively). In Hamlet, after meeting with the travelling actors, Hamlet requests the Player perform a speech about the Trojan War, which at 2.2.429-32 has an echo of Marlowe's Dido, Queen of Carthage. Indeed, in Love's Labour's Lost, echoing Marlowe's The Massacre at Paris, Shakespeare brings on a character called Marcade (French for Mercury – a god who, in Hero and Leander, is responsible for advancing scholars from poor backgrounds and identified by Marlowe with his own humble origin[46] ) who arrives to interrupt the merriment with news of the King's death. This is a fitting tribute for one who delighted in destruction in his plays.

en.wikipedia.org...

An altogether fascinating story

Another archive page came through:

The death of Christopher Marlowe's natural father Roger Manwood
TALES OF CHRISTOPHER MARLOWE by Roberta Ballantine
Part Three: Mori Mihi Lucrum
Chapter 12 London and Kent, December, 1592

And I suppose Wikipedia has another farther for Marlowe.

In his will Roger left money to provide work and wages for the
able-bodied poor of St. Stephen’s, and for the hospital there. These were
not ribbons-to-heaven bequests; all his life Roger had made useful gifts of
time and money. He’d seen an act through Parliament to provide for
perpetual upkeep of Rochester Bridge; he’d started and endowed the Roger
Manwood Grammar School in Sandwich; served as one of the original
governors of the Queen’s Grammar School at Lewisham, where his wife’s
cousin Coppinger was rector. He’d built a new House of Correction at
Westgate, Canterbury, and erected seven almshouses at St. Stephen’s, with
four pounds a year for each person who lived there, for bread, fuel and
extra.
Now in his will he left small annuities to his longtime servants, and
outside it he left standing various private trusts he would put in the hands of
his son-in-law executor Sir John Leveson and his lawyer-cousin John Boys.
After putting finishing touches on the document, Roger and Archdeacon
William shook hands and said goodbye. "Frescobaldi II is yours, as of this
hour," said Roger. "He’s in the stable behind Chambers, saddled and
bridled. But use him with care, sir, for he’s bright, and not
mild-mannered."

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Yes how uncanny 'Shakespeare was heavily influenced by Marlowe in his early work,'

Perhaps now we know why.
As Roberta Ballantine mentions on one page she thinks all of Shakespeare's
work were Marlowe's.
Quite a feat for a secret society or organization of sorts.

Awesome post TeslaandLyne!


I've heard that John Dee was the real author behind Shakespere's work, is there a link between Marlowe and Dee?

Originally posted by oxford
Awesome post TeslaandLyne!


I've heard that John Dee was the real author behind Shakespere's work, is there a link between Marlowe and Dee?

Right now this ciphered life of Marlowe is perhaps the exclusive
story from Ballantine.
She thinks Shakespeare is all Marlowe.
The thing is if communications took place in a spy network with
Lord Bacon then she does not have it and it was done by a different
means.
So I have not seen Dee mentioned.
On the spy payroll the play writing did not stop to bring in some cash.
The Globe burning down to stop putting on plays from Marlowe.

So I'd say to write about the mystery man Marlowe a writer must pick
another Shakespeare. Just like writers write books about Tesla and
aliens or Death Rays or Philadelphia Experiment or Tunguska or
any thing else that is not honest research.

SSS in ROT 13 gives FFF.

www.retards.org...

F is the 6-th letter of the Alphabet. Therefore FFF = 666

666 Shakespeare sign in the KJV of the Bible.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Managed to dig up this time line comparison of Dee, Shakespeare and Marlowe which is pretty interesting:
www.jwmt.org...

1585 Christopher Marlowe graduates BA from Corpus Christi College at Cambridge. From spring on, his spending jumps from pennies to lavish weekly sums., leading some to surmise this is when he was recruited into the Secret Service.

Good link here also regarding Marlowe: [url=http://www.the-tudors.org.uk/christopher-marlowe-timeline-biography.htm[/url]

Between 1584 and 1587 Christopher Marlowe was believed to have been recruited as a spy into the network of Sir Thomas Walsingham.

Another really interesting thing... the group or secret society called "The School of Night" (could it possibly sound more clandestine..lol) which was closely related to the mysterious Rosicrucian movement, but others say they were just atheists. Sir Walter Raleigh was also a member.

It seems all these playwrights and actors used their trade to travel around and get themselves into the courts of the nobles which sounds quite a good cover for a spy of the day.

One thing is for sure, they all seemed to be real searchers after the truth and have a great passion for esoteric knowledge!

O
xx

The hex a decimalize or some computer wise system uses the F
as in 0123456789ABCDEF so F is 15 I suppose.
Back in some computer course.

Hex sounds like it might be 16 though.
Zero is counted.

The Dee chart will be interesting for any dates Roberta gives
for what she says Marlow was doing.

She wrote three books on his life before his disappearance
which will not help though interesting.
She had to prove the writing in anagrams was one way he
wrote to others.
Part II seems to be what we might want to look at for plays
written outside of England.

ED:my post in HAWK123 topic:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

this was cool:
The was a TV show about Marlow and Shakespeare and the
potential of Shakespeare didn't look good compared to Marlowe.

Let say if we wanted a spy we would pick Marlowe.

[edit on 6/1/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Too many Marlowe's in the world ......

Marlowe working undercover made me think of him in regard to the
suppression of Tesla with all the writers supporting alien stories.

Actual agents or just doing their bidding under contract like doing
an 'ET' movie. They put our intelligence and progress down.

Marlowe suspected in making a crusading priest ill and giving up
sending agents over to England to re Romanise the country who got
immediately executed. So Marlowe saves lives. Marlowe and others
in 1621 feel ill and died from their wine at the Venice English Embassy
as I found in Ballantines 'Marlowe Up Close'.

ED: I did some net checking on the Shakespeare plays first printing
which some were after Marlowe died. More on this later.



[edit on 6/6/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

I have very mixed feelings about this thread. My own research into Marlowe does suggest that his "murder" was staged. Unfortunately, the "cipher" quoted in the OP sounds like pure fiction. Until the manuscripts that this Ballantine person claims to have in their possession is made public and its provenance checked, I'm afraid that I must consider it a hoax. For one thing, the description of the SSS sounds altogether too modern. Renaissance espionage was not an organized government department; it was done by private individuals for their own purposes and funded out of their own pockets. (Burleigh had to cut down trees on his estate to finance some of his operations, and Kit Marlowe himself dabbled in counterfeiting.)

Edit to add: The very concept of "state" is anachronistic. Walsingham and Burleigh would have considered themselves to be serving the "Crown."

[edit on 6-6-2010 by DJW001]

Edit to add: Just spent some time looking further into Ballantine's site. Epigrams? Anagrams? Really? This is the sort of nonsense that makes serious history detectives look bad.

[edit on 6-6-2010 by DJW001]

Some how Roberta has Marlowe working for Bacon or someone
as a spy as before his death in May 30, 1593 his repeated overseas
espionage is suspected due to absences from college.

Some how thats the general line I see in accepted works.

Steganographic messages are the way she describes them.
So Marlowe accumulates plays since 1593 as perhaps the Globe
was a Bacon Theatrical spy project and uses the plays.

If people say Bacon or others were Shakespeare then is there
evidence to this fronting. If Bacon's dealing are secret enough
then Marlowe as the play author can be a possibility.

Just another example of the Illuminati (Bacon, the Crown) making
money off the workers and still going strong with the long lived
plays into the present era as their big secret.

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The Globe may well have been designed by Dr. Dee using principles of sacred geometry. My hunch has always been that Shakespeare's "First Folio" was the result of a conspiracy, but nothing particularly nefarious. In order to become a "nation" in the modern sense of the term, people need a shared (standardized) language and a national mythology. The Canon fits that bill to a "T." France had les Pleiades and eventually the Academy. England had Shakespeare.

I just found this re construction of the Ballantine pages
from Geo Cities:

www.marlovian.com...

I am in fact I'm reading:

Roberta Ballantine's unconvential biography
Marlowe Up Close

The life story of Marlowe in events and timeline and anagrams.
However the webpages have quite a lot of material.

In 4 parts as I was up to his banishment but Queen Elizabeth
helped him sail away, II ended with the Queens death,
III ends on his way to Bermuda and well IV is the end way
past normal accounts.


[edit on 6/9/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

I was just reminded of part of the spy story connected with Marlowe.
Roberta relates that the French Ambassador for Queen Elizabeth
mentioned that the French used the theater for a spy network.
She did make a network using Christopher Marlowe who helped the English
economy with plays for Bacon and Shakespeare.
Not that Marlowe found out that much but was utilized with Cervantes
in an operation moving cannon balls in the wrong place for the Spanish
war ships.
Marlowe met Cervantes and became a double spy no doubt.
The canon ball size displacement seems a bit of a story in itself.
Those familiar with the cannon must surely note the proper size ball.
The pair were dock workers or just Marlowe, Cervantes had a weak arm,
and got the job loading the balls. A good story but did the Spanish lose
the next battle.
ED: The term and SSS were used in the text unscrambled by Roberta
used by Marlowe in the lines of his plays. To those in the network
that was perhaps the terminology they used.
ED+: Marlowe was a sailor and developed a cancer on the nose.
The death mask in Germany said to be Shakespeare clearly shows the
affliction that was removed in a recent computer image in a news
release as from the mask. Roberta must think most of the Shakespeare
images are of Marlowe as well.

Shakespeare Death Mask

Another conspiracy brought to our attention by Roberta is the Shakespeare death mask.

Then try this:
Shakespeare Death Mask Nose Cancer

This conspiracy might run into the same people that say you caught a bird or bug in a photo
and Shakespeare did not have nose cancer.
Marlowe being a sailor and going to Bermuda and living out the second half of his life
in the English embassy in Naples on the Mediterranean and being in Spain with Cervantes
had a lot more sun than Mr. Shakespeare.

Just on TV was a nice clean computerized Death mask for us to be mind controlled by the elite
story tellers that let no one else speak back at them.

Update of sorts.
Not knowing the Marlowe story discovered by authors before the revelations in the
anagrams by Roberta Ballantine I can't say much of what she discovered is new as
she seemingly supports the historical events known to all.
The events dealing with Cervantes seems orignal.

Marlowe refers to himself in the first two lines.
"Now is the Winter of our Discontent,
Made glorious Summer by this Son
of Yorke:"

In this Kit Marlowe wrote of Robert C.'s
demon rise, 'n' some fouy-douys on us:

Found by rearranging the letters in page 320 of "Marlowe up Close"
The story of Robert Cecil may well be known and even given notice of
similarity play events by many reviewers.

Marlowe consistently puts or Ballantine consistently finds a reference in
many of plays and originals, they must be original lines from Marlowe,
she reviewed.

In I Henry IV lines 3&4 reveal the SSS combination that may occur in other
instances and together with lines 5&6 tell of undercover work loading
cannon balls on Spanish ships.

In Henry VI Part III lines 138&139 relate to a shipment of Tin that may
find its way to Turkey for brass cannons with local copper but little tin.

As I said these events may have already come to light as not involving
Marlowe but there are reference to Shakespeare and Bacon and others
in the employ of the State.
ED: There are a lot of web pages asking questions about
Shakespeare Death Mask Nose Cancer .
Why do we never get the answers just questions.