Breaking News: BP dismantling the Gulf oil spill BOP

anyone else seeing black "mud" coming out on the right side of the screen???
Or am I seeing the muds shadow?


[edit on 28-5-2010 by Just Wondering]

IMO BP knows it isn't working but they are stalling, probably trying to figure out what to do next. It looks worse to me on the vid, more holes and junk rising out of each. When the junk is gone I suppose the oil will return, what else could happen. A crying shame!

Originally posted by Just Wondering
anyone else seeing black "mud" coming out on the right side of the screen???
Or am I seeing the muds shadow?


[edit on 28-5-2010 by Just Wondering]

Yes. They are trying there best to hide it but it still keeps popping up on the screen.

I am not recording it because... there is kind of no point with all of this other footage.

Originally posted by Just Wondering
anyone else seeing black "mud" coming out on the right side of the screen???
Or am I seeing the muds shadow?


[edit on 28-5-2010 by Just Wondering]

OK, I recorded and added. Why? Because it could signify that the oil is leaking from the seafloor.

It would not make sense for oil to be coming out of the blow out preventer (BOP)unless the junk shot failed so miserably that it is preventing drilling mud from entering the riser.

I am beginning to believe they are trying to remove the Riser so they can bolt a new BOP on top of the old one. Common on surface wells.
or bolt a new Riser on the BOP to stop all the mud loss.

If they remove the old riser they get rid of a number of leaks and just have one.

And if they can get a new riser or BOP installed they can blow a lot more mud in or even open the BOP and do a bottom kill.

This would account for them stopping the drilling on the second well because they want to use it to drop a drill string or riser for the kill.

The worst that can happen if they can get a new riser connected is they can run it to tankers and collect the oil till the well looses pressure.

Originally posted by ANNED
I am beginning to believe they are trying to remove the Riser so they can bolt a new BOP on top of the old one. Common on surface wells.
or bolt a new Riser on the BOP to stop all the mud loss.

If they remove the old riser they get rid of a number of leaks and just have one.

And if they can get a new riser or BOP installed they can blow a lot more mud in or even open the BOP and do a bottom kill.

This would account for them stopping the drilling on the second well because they want to use it to drop a drill string or riser for the kill.

The worst that can happen if they can get a new riser connected is they can run it to tankers and collect the oil till the well looses pressure.

Your basing this on what exactly??

You said this is common with surface wells... How do you know this and what makes you believe it will work 5000 feet below the surface?

~Namaste

I put a lot of time in the oil field in my life as a field service engineer and automation tech , worked all over the gulf and the north sea on mainpass drilling and production platforms also on the ocean ranger in the north sea, I would like someone to tell me why BP or anyone in charge has not called Red adair Corp. or Boots and Coots to take care of this problem, after all it is what they are the best in the world at. I have seen those guy's kill a well out in 8 hours stone dead. I smell a rat in this as I know that this should have been done by the pro's in the first week. Far be it from me to lay blame, but I live here on this coast line and I am to damn old to go and start over some where else, looks like they have distroyed the place where I was living out my retirment years.

Originally posted by MrCrowley
I put a lot of time in the oil field in my life as a field service engineer and automation tech , worked all over the gulf and the north sea on mainpass drilling and production platforms also on the ocean ranger in the north sea, I would like someone to tell me why BP or anyone in charge has not called Red adair Corp. or Boots and Coots to take care of this problem, after all it is what they are the best in the world at. I have seen those guy's kill a well out in 8 hours stone dead. I smell a rat in this as I know that this should have been done by the pro's in the first week. Far be it from me to lay blame, but I live here on this coast line and I am to damn old to go and start over some where else, looks like they have distroyed the place where I was living out my retirment years.

Simple answer to that is that Red and Boots have no experience at killing wells at this depth. This requires serious sub-sea well control experience and there are few in the world that have it.

All I see in the videos posted on this thread and associated links are an Oceaneering ROV pissing about with a come along over a tool basket and oil based mud pissing out of a fractured riser which may or may not be connected to the BOP. The camera field of view is insufficient for me to tell.

PEACE,
RK

See the white streams coming out?

Either Methane or gas hydrate.

Not trying to offend anyone but I see nothing wrong with the feed or the videos being posted. Maybe I am just ignorant

I don't think most people have any clue the kind of pressure it would take to plug up this mess. How do you bottle up the entire force of the earth? Even if you can somehow match the force of the oil, that force pressing against whatever we throw at it will only increase until the "leak" is free again. Say that doesn't happen, even though it of course would, erosion is probably going to find a way to make a new hole.

I have been watching this feed for days... There are new holes in the BOP that were not there before. I see 6 and my last count was 4.

Anyone else seeing the same??

~Namaste

reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne


I think the new holes were from the failed junk shots.

Looks like it should have been called Buck shot instead.

I think this is a total mess of really huge proportions.

However I think there doing a good job trying to fix it anyway . I mean its better to try than just to do nothing . I think it will be fixed soon , I think by tuesday the gulf will be back to normal at least no leaking or much . Clean up will take longer tho .

But I mean, I am not under the gulf and I have not seen the hole there trying to plug up , so I really can not say that it will be easy or it will be fixed soon . I just have been looking at those videos and it seems that the plug method seems to be sort of working . But I am not sure if its working or if its just pushing mud out the other hole . There is way to many holes , But the hole that the mud is coming out of must be the hole that is trying to plug with mud .

Now The hard part will be after the hole is not leaking , to keep an eye on it to make sure it is 100% sure its not leaking . would not want to wake up one day and see oil all over from a old plug that started leaking one day lol , but I mean , You know its all how it works . Maybe it will work , I think it will , but even if it does not . I think maybe they have this oil under control

Originally posted by AndersonLee
I think this is a total mess of really huge proportions.

However I think there doing a good job trying to fix it anyway . I mean its better to try than just to do nothing . I think it will be fixed soon , I think by tuesday the gulf will be back to normal at least no leaking or much . Clean up will take longer tho .

But I mean, I am not under the gulf and I have not seen the hole there trying to plug up , so I really can not say that it will be easy or it will be fixed soon . I just have been looking at those videos and it seems that the plug method seems to be sort of working . But I am not sure if its working or if its just pushing mud out the other hole . There is way to many holes , But the hole that the mud is coming out of must be the hole that is trying to plug with mud .

Now The hard part will be after the hole is not leaking , to keep an eye on it to make sure it is 100% sure its not leaking . would not want to wake up one day and see oil all over from a old plug that started leaking one day lol , but I mean , You know its all how it works . Maybe it will work , I think it will , but even if it does not . I think maybe they have this oil under control

Okay,
Thanks for that.
I feel better about this whole oil leak thing now.
I think I do anyway.
Well, maybe I feel better,
but then again maybe not.
I guess I will just have to wait and see, huh?
Okay, Thanks.



[edit on 28-5-2010 by illusions]

Originally posted by N.of norml
I have made several posts about the high probability of the low density strata blowing out around the well. We are talking about enormous pressures and a possible supercritical solution of LPG and oil to erode past the well pipe.
Perhaps it is time to discus a true WCS.
The well blows completely out and an ever expanding hole gushes many hundred X the present amount of oil/gas.
The lack of refilling the reservoir collapses the sea bed causing a massive sudden release of methane while triggering a tsunami in the gulf.
The gulf and its coastline are decimated low oxygen death zones for many decades and the Atlantic is unfishable for decades also.
I've had it with MSM low balling just how bad this all could get. Make no mistake if the seafloor is eroded it is a game over situation and the best we can do is run from our folly.
N.

It's not a death zone. I know people who work offshore who fish while on break / free time there.

"Atlantic unfishable"? There is offshore fishing, you know.

Correction: "the gulf and its coastline" are not death zones. By that, I meant before this disaster of course, whereas you say it has been for decades. I guess for effect you just went ahead and threw in the Atlantic too.

I don't understand why you would say that for decades it's been a death zone. It doesn't make sense.

[edit on 28-5-2010 by glitchinmymatrix]

I dont know if anyone has seen this yet........even though this chick is really annoying:


It seems that EVERYTHING they are trying was already TRIED 30 YRS AGO!!!! And that one wasn't a MILE deep.


Smoke screen for sure............




[edit on 28-5-2010 by hoochymama]

[edit on 28-5-2010 by hoochymama]

They can't even get 10% of the mud to stay in the pipes.

BP is already talking about new procedures prepping the public...

Because SUNDAY...

The shoe drops.

Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne

Originally posted by ANNED
I am beginning to believe they are trying to remove the Riser so they can bolt a new BOP on top of the old one. Common on surface wells.
or bolt a new Riser on the BOP to stop all the mud loss.

If they remove the old riser they get rid of a number of leaks and just have one.

And if they can get a new riser or BOP installed they can blow a lot more mud in or even open the BOP and do a bottom kill.

This would account for them stopping the drilling on the second well because they want to use it to drop a drill string or riser for the kill.

The worst that can happen if they can get a new riser connected is they can run it to tankers and collect the oil till the well looses pressure.

Your basing this on what exactly??

You said this is common with surface wells... How do you know this and what makes you believe it will work 5000 feet below the surface?

~Namaste

The way they stopped the wells in kuwait after the first gulf war was to put out the fire and cut the BOP off and install a new BOP or if the bolt up flange was undamaged they just removed the BOP and installed a new one.

The riser was made to be removed after the well was completed and it had been plugged till it was ready to go into production.

Then the riser is plugged back in and the concrete is drilled out and the oil is sent through a undersea line to shore.
Once the oil is flowing to shore the riser valve is closed and the riser is removed.
www.jamstec.go.jp...

[edit on 29-5-2010 by ANNED]

I ass / u / me that u understand this situation is 1 mile under the Ocean and not on Land...........

I am sure there is a BIG difference.......

Over the last 30 years I would ass / u / me that they would of figured this out already but I guess if you make those kind of profits the risk is greater than the reward..........oh wait maybe its the risk is greater than the cost it takes to CLEAN UP YOUR DISASTER......